My brand new custom made HP laptop just got shipped.. From SHANGHAI!

[XOKCowboy]

Well this is a bit of a surprise. I got email notification today that my new HP laptop had been shipped so I clicked on the Fedex tracking link. It was shipped yesterday from Shanghai CN.

OK I'm not a nationalistic kinda guy but it really rubs me wrong that my laptop was built in China. Lord know's I've been paid a lot of money from HP (they have a large presence here in Denver and I've worked a lot of their shows) and my old HP laptop has paid for itself a couple of times over and never let me down but for some reason I thought that my new HP would be made somewhere here in America. I guess that's too much to ask today.

[Kagemusha]

1. Would you prefer Taiwan? A different China, to be sure.

And a very serious electronics/ computer components manufacturer.

[XOKCowboy]

2. Well yeah...

possibly even Korea. Even better though would have been in the Midwest somewhere.

[Kagemusha]

4. I guess that is too much to ask then.

If it wasn't HP, it'd be a company using Korea or Taiwan. China is cheaper though so.. that's what HP invested in, in its case. Forgive me for not regarding them as the cutting edge of computing in general, personally. But I have heard HP in particular investing in er, Shanghai, in particular. So I'm not surprised to hear your story.

[Eurobabe]

9. My last IBM laptop was made in Mexico

that bordered on "well, OK," (no pun intended) but my latest laptop is a Lenovo, made in China. (I will only use a track point mouse, physical necessity)

Now with all these recalls, I wonder if someday we don't find out that there is some freaking hazard lurking in our machines: excess radiation from displays, lead, who the frig knows?

:shrug:

I just don't understand why we can't put people back to work here and make things like before? Oh yeah, I forgot, corporate GREED. And shareholder profits. :mad:

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Exploding Batteries

the risk is already here

[Eurobabe]

16. Got that exchanged right away, mine was recalled.

You think they'd swap it before I bought it? Nah, I had to go 8 weeks without a battery and only use on electrical power. :shrug:

[Mind_your_head]

3. Well, if you regularly shop at Walmart....if you're only looking for cheap, cheap, cheap....

you shouldn't be too surprised (upon reflection) about why that shipment comes froms China.

[XOKCowboy]

20. I don't regularly shop at WalMart and this ain't a cheap laptop...

I ordered it directly from HP. It's a 2.2G Intel Core 2 Duo processor, twin 100G 7200 rpm HDs, 2G DDR2 RAM, 512MB Graphics Card, 17" WXGA display... Not the typical WalMart Special. Now if I had bought the WalMart Special I wouldn't be surprised that it came from China.

[Mind_your_head]

22. Tell me you're being sarcastic?

Please.

Now if I had bought the WalMart Special I wouldn't be surprised that it came from China.

If you're not being sarcastic, I just MUST, MUST use the :eyes:

Peace,
M_Y_H

[XOKCowboy]

26. More like naive...

plus I still really don't understand your post. :shrug:

[Mind_your_head]

28. well, can I ask you to read something?.....

b/c I'm not a very good teacher/explainer......

Would you please read the first 100 pages or so of the "Omnivores Dilemma

I THINK it taught me a lot.....I don't know any farmers (unfortunately) so I don't know their 'take' on this book.....I've got an open mind...although not to the point where 'my brains fall out'....

What are your thoughts? Are you farmer or a rancher or just an 'observer'

(on edit: or just an RNC asshole?)

[Kutjara]

5. Most PCs are made in China.

The Pearl River delta, running from Hong Kong to Guangzhou turns out most of the memory chips and circuit boards, while a lot of final-parts assembly takes place in Shanghai.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Unless you guy like we did

from an American company assembling near Los Angeles

[Kutjara]

7. Who did you use?

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Cyberpower

[Posteritatis]

11. Where were the components made, though? (nt)

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Components of course they are not made here

but at least it was asembled in the US

[Greyhound]

8. Nothing, other than weapons, are made here anymore, and precious little is

even assembled here.

This is the New World Order.

[candice]

10. Apple products say "Designed in California, Assembled in China" or something like that...

...at a shareholder meeting in 2006 Jobs said that Apple manufacturing wasn't coming back to the U.S.

I wonder how much pollution results from the two coal-powered power plants that come on board in China each week to the dumping of electronic wastes into the waterways off the coast of China where most of the manufacturing for Western electronics occurs.

[candice]

12. Forgot to add that my last Dell was Made in China....but it was the

nice but clueless Indian technical support (the computer itself arrived DOA) that made me never want to buy another Dell product.

Recently, just trying to cancel the catalogs Dell sends all of the time wasted an hour of my life dealing with someone in India. He couldn't read a script in this case, and didn't know what a house number was. I am sick of carrying the catalogs to recycling, and this "support" call to Dell via India will be my last.

After much frustration I blurted, "This is what is wong with Dell, it has terrible technical support."

I had been considering possibly looking on Dell's Web site and maybe buying one someday...but then I adore Apple products so why bother? I run Windows XP on a partition and never let it go on line so I don't have to pay for virus protection.

[spindoctor]

17. All electronics come out of Asia with the exception of military equipment.

So say you are a member of the joint chiefs of staff and your next laptop will ship from Idaho.

What surprised me more was that my oak kitchen table, a bulky assembly, was made in China. It is odd that even with the added shipping costs it is apparently still cheaper to have something like that manufactured halfway across the world.

As a matter of fact, HP products in Europe ship from France. I don't know if that is where they are assembled as well.

[oldgrowth]

18. Don't chew on it's corners, lead paint !!!

[soothsayer]

19. I'm getting an M-Tech (which is a Clevo, which is made in Taiwan)

to replace my Alienware laptop. Alienware USED to use Clevo as a base but mostly have cheaped to cheaper stuff.

[XOKCowboy]

21. OK so I guess I shouldn't be surprised...

It's still a consumer laptop and I'm well aware that most electronics are made in the Far East. Globalization and outsourcing are here and I guess I better get used to it.

Still.... I can't wait till it gets here!

[Jim Warren]

23. Am I missing something?

Were you surprised because of the custom order?

I've bought 10 or 11 laptops in the last year, HP, Compaq, Toshiba, Acer and Lenovo and they all were made in China.

[XOKCowboy]

24. No you're not missing anything...

I just got schooled in globalization and outsourcing. I don't know why I was surprised it was assembled in Shanghai. In hindsight I really should have expected it. I worked at a broadband forum in Beijing earlier this year and saw first hand what the Chinese are not only capable of but marveled at the progress they've made in the 20 short years they've been in the world market.

Well at least it's in the US now. Like someone else said above, I'll just try to keep from chewing on it and I should be OK.

[Mind_your_head]

29. Your answers are a lesson in what's truly 'wrong' with our country....

thanks for letting see how 'the otherside thinks'.

Peace and 'safe-harbors' to you and yours....
M_Y_H

[ComerPerro]

25. even if you build your own system, it will be mostly foreign made parts

[Canuckistanian]

27. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a single American made component

While systems may be designed in America, every single part is and has been manufactured overseas for decades, with the possible exception of coils and transformers.