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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:17 AM
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KARL ROVE says IRAQ is like VIETNAM!
Rove makes a fiery exit

By: Mike Allen
Aug 14, 2007 07:48 PM EST


WACO, Texas — A day after announcing he will leave government Aug. 31, an unrepentant Karl Rove said Tuesday that Democrats are headed toward repeating Vietnam-era mistakes that gave Republicans the upper hand on national defense for 30 years.

“The Democrats have a problem with national security,” the White House senior adviser said. “Too many Democratic leaders are opposing policies that will lead to America’s success in the Middle East.”

In an hour-long one-on-one interview near the Crawford White House, Rove said congressional efforts to oppose President Bush’s “surge” strategy have clear echoes of Democrats in the early 1970s who cut off support for U.S. military involvement in Vietnam, a war that was even more unpopular than Iraq. In Rove’s view, the nation wound up with its prestige diminished and its adversaries emboldened.

“The Democrats have suffered since,” he said. “To the degree that the current circumstance has caused people to say, ‘Wait a minute. Are we seeing a rerun? And I don’t like how it ends,’ they could face the same problem.”

more at:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0807/5392.html
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:20 AM
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1. Yeah, cuz that's always good!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:21 AM
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2. "America's success in the Middle East"
A revealing way to phrase it. Let's turn it around: how would he define "Iraq's success in America"?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:21 AM
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3. Didn't have the stomach to finish reading that...
what a fluff piece.

:puke:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:22 AM
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4. Yep
We are going to see an exact replay - up to and including the final act where Democrats, Liberals, and the Media are blamed for pulling back just before victory could have been obtained.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:26 AM
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5. ...repeating Vietnam-era mistakes that gave Republicans the upper hand on national defense for 30 ye
And for most of those 30 years, the Democrats had the upper hand in everything else.

If rove can have bush's screw-up in Iraq blamed on the democrats, he is a genious. But I doubt that he can.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:29 AM
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6. He should know he was there...
in spirit.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:29 AM
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7. Well that's different
We sure don't want to be making any mistakes, Karl! Thanks for your sincere, heartfelt warning against holding your corrupt administration accountable for its sins. Better we should just let it go, and work on how we're gonna keep our prestige and not embolden our enemies.

Tell me this, though: How does our current posture in Iraq and Afghanistan enhance our international prestige and not make our enemies think they can kick dirt in our face with impunity?
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:35 AM
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8. This "Vietnam" you speak of, is that the country that US Corporations
are moving their factories to from China?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:44 AM
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9. The DEMOCRATS?
Didn't a Republican regime start this war?
Isn't it a Republican regime that is doing everything they can to keep us in this war?
Isn't it a Republican regime that has escalated this war and trying to expand it to other countries?

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:50 AM
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10. so if not for the dems, we would have won VietNam? Out of your fucking mind karl
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 10:54 AM by spanone
you are right in one sense....it's a win-less war and the only way out is to get the fuck out.
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:52 AM
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11. after we pulled out of VietNam, I didn't
walk around kicking myself in the ass, thinking, "if we only killed more of them", or, "geez, now the commies got that country, we're screwed". What the fuck did losing in VietNam do except save a whole lot more American lives?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:54 AM
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12. LOL- so "the Brain" admits it!
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:55 AM
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13. I read the first page up to
the comment about taking the economy for granted because it was so good and abandoned the read to avoid vomiting.

This is the "Politico," for crissakes! What a useless piece of crap. Another nutcracker publication.
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