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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 08:33 PM
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Coming to an America near you -- be afraid
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=47059



Officer Hails ‘Tremendous Success’ of Iraqi Automated ID System

By Gerry J. Gilmore
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Aug. 15, 2007 – The Iraqi government’s automated biometrics identification system -- used to screen civilian workers, police and soldiers, as well as to catch criminals -- is a “tremendous success,” a U.S. military officer said in Baghdad today.

Army Lt. Col. John W. Velliquette Jr., who runs the fingerprint and retina scanning center located at the International Zone in Baghdad, explained the system to online reporters and “bloggers” during a conference call today.

Biometrics is defined as measurable physical or behavioral characteristics that can be used to identify people. More than 350,000 sets of fingerprints, photos and retina scans are now deposited in the system’s database, said Velliquette, a reservist and Seattle police officer who is assigned to the Coalition Police Assistance Training Team.

“We increase the database by 4,000 to 5,000 each week,” Velliquette said.

A team of seven U.S. contractors now mentors 24 Iraqi government employees who operate the U.S.-provided system, Velliquette explained. Officials expect the Iraqis to assume full operation by next summer, he added.

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http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/

IBM and the Holocaust is the stunning story of IBM's strategic alliance with Nazi Germany -- beginning in 1933 in the first weeks that Hitler came to power and continuing well into World War II. As the Third Reich embarked upon its plan of conquest and genocide, IBM and its subsidiaries helped create enabling technologies, step-by-step, from the identification and cataloging programs of the 1930s to the selections of the 1940s.

Only after Jews were identified -- a massive and complex task that Hitler wanted done immediately -- could they be targeted for efficient asset confiscation, ghettoization, deportation, enslaved labor, and, ultimately, annihilation. It was a cross-tabulation and organizational challenge so monumental, it called for a computer. Of course, in the 1930s no computer existed.

But IBM's Hollerith punch card technology did exist. Aided by the company's custom-designed and constantly updated Hollerith systems, Hitler was able to automate his persecution of the Jews. Historians have always been amazed at the speed and accuracy with which the Nazis were able to identify and locate European Jewry. Until now, the pieces of this puzzle have never been fully assembled. The fact is, IBM technology was used to organize nearly everything in Germany and then Nazi Europe, from the identification of the Jews in censuses, registrations, and ancestral tracing programs to the running of railroads and organizing of concentration camp slave labor.

IBM and its German subsidiary custom-designed complex solutions, one by one, anticipating the Reich's needs. They did not merely sell the machines and walk away. Instead, IBM leased these machines for high fees and became the sole source of the billions of punch cards Hitler needed.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 08:36 PM
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1. Don't forget Ford and GM proudly used slave Jewish labor too.
:puke:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 08:48 PM
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2. It is true
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:52 PM
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8. The suburbs
Edited on Wed Aug-15-07 09:56 PM by undergroundpanther
Out here in America are modeled on Nazi Garden Cities.
Garden cities my ass. This is where Sprawl that crushes your soul if you are not of the right"class" originated folks..(as in automobile apartheid) Fuck you Ford you NAZI thug robber baron scumbag!!

It is disgusting how NAZIFICATION of America has been"progressing" over the past hundred years or so.Maybe the "American experiment" isn't about democracy really but about creating a total fascist state domination of the world Maybe Hitlers"final solution" was just a test run preparing for the final FINAL solution?
Considering Hitler admired the fucking eugenicists here and America is where he got his genocidal ideas from, All the elitist rich pigs over here.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:02 PM
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3. Everyone really should read "IBM and the Holocaust". Great piece of research. recommended
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:17 PM
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5. More than any book I've ever read, that one scared me the most
My father was a WW II veteran. He refused directly to tell me what he saw regarding the liberation of Jewish camps. He could not deal with revisiting it. He's gone now, and most of his peers are, too. THEY WILL NOT TALK about it.

Additionally, there is a connection from IBM and Hollerith that leads directly to Grandpappy Bush referred to in that book.

When I read that we, the USA, that our fathers and grandfathers (and mothers and grandmothers, a whole 'nother subject of sacrifice) fought for, have been taken over by these fascist bastards who are imposing our will and identifying Iraqis (think Poles and Czechs etc. in the 1930's) I am sickened and fearful and angry and motivated all at the same time.

Thanks for the kick.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:05 PM
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4. Another bad dream that isn't a dream afterall. Does anyone
else feel like our existence today is one big, bad dream? I've got to get back to my art for a while to let my brain graze.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:18 PM
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6. Aw, "be afraid" is a re-run. Isn't there anything else on? - n/t
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:46 PM
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7. Fuck
Ok when are they gonna confiscate my shit and try to zap my brain into a dazed submission?

Because I will not go quietly. I will not get with the program.I will rip out any damn microchips in my skin with a knife,or my teeth whatever. I am wild I don't accept the cage for security.
Nor will I ever bow down to anyone.If they want control it will cost them dearly,and they will NEVER take my spirit never take over my inner locus of control.Never get me to betray my own heart. For I HATE all authoritarians with more anger than they will ever fathom.I hate all bullies. And I want them to fail, lose and fall. I want all their systems to crash and I want the control freak authoritarian to be powerless and locked in his own cage intended for us forever.Or killed by the weapons he made for subduing us, or cooked in the microwaves he wants US to die from,

WE are greater together than the sum of mere authoritarians WE do not have to accept any crazy crap the DOD psychopaths cook up to make their sick mono-cultural utopian hell fantasy come to pass.

No more tolerance for the intolerable!!
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:45 PM
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9. "I will not go quietly."
Yeah you will. Do you ever use toll roads, bridges, tunnels?

You'll get the microwave lobotomy without even knowing it.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 10:56 PM
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10. Thats BS
On a personal level we won't, and thats what is needed.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 12:16 AM
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12. Actually I rarely use them
Edited on Thu Aug-16-07 12:23 AM by undergroundpanther
I don't have a car. I WALK or use the bus.
And I protect myself.I watch I scan around me.
I was used as a kid in military experiments.
And the shit they used me for, I use those abilities for myself now.
And it is effective. I have removed a thing from my neck area 5 times,a small black speck is embedded in my skin.I can feel it happen,Than when I get home I rip it out with an exacto. Don't tell me what I can and cannot do.You don't know.
I sense shit that most people would freak over if they saw what I saw. So I don't say all that much unless the person is ready to listen.If I can help I do.I have interfered with the electronics of equipment to help people.
Yes they put chips in with lasers now. Yes they do lay some in your temporal lobes to induce anxiety.But if you can learn to control your body's systems (like electrical nerve pulses)you can detect it and fry the bastards out.It takes awhile to learn to do this but most anyone could learn. It hurts a little like a small headache,especially when you do the retinas..I learned to control my body myself during those 18 months I spent in solitary . What else was I gonna do?
I can make my own heart stop..until I pass out. I can make my body temp get so high I cast off steam in the winter.. I used to make my pulse go up and down to freak the staff for fun..
Oh and those microwave pulses you can feel/hear them.Look the direction you feel the wave coming the space in front of the wave ripples kinda, it's like the molecules shimmer,than you can avoid the tracking and not get hit by it that way.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:28 AM
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15. ...
a small black speck is embedded in my skin.

If so, if you're not putting me on, I'm sure there are people
who would like to examine those microscopically.

they put chips in with lasers now.

Moving atoms with photons is beyond my technology, but
it's theoretically possible.

I can make my own heart stop..until I pass out.

Be careful. Ever see "Flatliners"?

those microwave pulses you can feel/hear

Whatever. My point is, if the zappers are installed at the
turnstiles at the subway or the football game or the
supermarket, there will be (and I have no experience of their
use today, myself) no escaping them.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 11:13 PM
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11. I'm with you, brother
'Nuff said.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 12:22 AM
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13. And you all though IBM just made supermarket scanners and old typewriters. They think ahead!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-16-07 12:32 AM
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14. Consider what those of us here in Wisconsin have witnessed despite our progressive traditions
Take some time and go through the links in this active thread-join in the discussion.

"Escape to Wisconsin-like Nazis, neocons, organized crime and black ops did" (started 7-27-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=186x21683
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