PHOTO: The dainty bride-to-be and her gentleman groom

[Bluebear]

I am wondering, certainly this young man is in Iraq, right? Right? Will the nuptials be between his tours of duty? So many logistics to take care of. . .

[AndyA]

1. I'm certain they haven't had sex yet. You can tell by the body language.

Surely she's still a virgin, right? I mean, the daughter of America's moral compass surely couldn't have grown up to be a total slut!

Her Mother was a school teacher, for Christ's sake!!

:rofl:

[jpak]

9. Abstinence! Temperance!!! Duty to Country!!!! Can I get an Amen!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[puebloknot]

47. A-a-men. A-a-men. A-a-men, amen, amen! :) nt

[DangerDave921]

11. choice

So a young woman is either a virgin or a slut? There's no in-between?

[jgraz]

17. No, of course not

Now you can be both!

Many Teens Who Take 'Virginity Pledges' Substitute Other High-Risk Behavior for Intercourse, Study Says
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/21606.php

[DemBones DemBones]

37. "Technical virgins" or "It depends on how you define virginity."

About twenty years ago, at an AIDS workshop h.s. teachers had to attend, we were told that the reason the rate of HIV/AIDS among teenaged girls was rising rapidly was that girls were having anal sex.

The girls, when interviewed about how they got HIV, their sexual contacts, said they thought it was the perfect solution, because it made their boyfriends happy, it didn't make them pregnant, and they could say that they were still virgins, no matter how many boys they had anal sex with. They didn't use condoms, didn't think they needed to.

The state health department was quite concerned about it, as you can imagine.

I don't remember if the "purity ring thing" was going on in the state then. It wasn't where I taught.

[AndyA]

22. Did I say that? No, I did not.

We were discussing Jenna Bush, singularly. Not every young woman.

And considering the information we've been presented about her over the years, I think we're pretty safe saying she's not exactly Patrician.

I love it when people expand on someone else's thoughts. Sometimes you just need to take things at face value without embellishing it.

[jgraz]

23. Oh, so now we have to conform to YOUR interpretation of what you meant?

Fascist. :P

[AndyA]

25. No, but you can stop interjecting your own thoughts into someone elses.

:eyes:

My original post did have a :rofl: at the bottom of it. If you don't know what that means, you should look it up sometime.

[jgraz]

26. Oh the irony

I make a humorous response to your complaint about someone else not getting your humorous post and...you don't get it. :rofl:

[malaise]

27. Not according to the christian right wing

No fugging in-between. Where is her chastity ring?

[Ikonoklast]

2. MOST IMPORTANTLY!!!

She didn't spill a drop of precious, delicious booze.

[TahitiNut]

8. GMTA

I recall regarding that as a valuable skill. :silly: :dunce:

[tanyev]

32. It takes a lot of practice to fine-tune that skill.

[Skip Intro]

51. indeed nt

[LittleClarkie]

54. Hey, that would be alcohol abuse

I, myself, am very careful with my Goose Island Honker Ale.

[bluestateguy]

3. I just don't see why this needs to be an issue

And the many threads on it seem like a waste of time.

[Bluebear]

35. It's plenty of an issue. Meanwhile, I am not allowed to marry who I choose to.

Nor serve my country in the military if I choose to.

[blondeatlast]

41. And so you kicked this one up.

Don't like it? Hide, scroll past it, or ignore the author. :eyes:

[acmavm]

4. Is this Jenna? Is she engaged?

Brother. I don't care what they do but she should be a little more circumspect considering she's papparazzi fodder.

[meowomon]

5. Why Isn't This Young Man Serving In Iraq?

Another chickenhawk rethuglican.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

7. he's doing his service servicing the Bush Family interests.

no different than Romney's brave sons.

[Mabus]

13. He's serving at (Jenna) Bush's pleasure

and it pleases her to have him hold her upright.

[BringEmOn]

30. The closest he'll get to military is the shotguns at the wedding.

[TahitiNut]

6. Thank God she didn't sin ...

... by spilling her drink! :evilgrin:

[saracat]

10. Who cares.Gorgeous dress and she is just a kid!

[NavyDavy]

14. and? shes a public figure just like chelsea was

[jgraz]

15. She's 26

Not exactly a child, even if she acts like one.

[saracat]

24. Oh Phooh! She ias young and having fun! Some are just poopy!

I wish her well.Not her fault her Dad is a monster!

[Stardust]

55. She's marrying a former Rove aide. You're right, the dress is gorgeous

but that little girl has a serious drinking problem. Best of luck to her...she'll need it.

[saracat]

62. Hey it might be a set up! Who knows? And we don't know she has a drinking problem

just that she has always been photographed while partying.They did that to Chelsea too! And they busted them for the underage drinking and who didn't do that? I say we should cut the kids a break.Their parents? NEVER.And with such partents it isn't likely they will be solid citizens but one never knows!

[Catherine Vincent]

12. She's pretty good in handling that drink!

:)

[ThomWV]

16. Its not like its her first, the girl has had some practice.

[jgraz]

18. Learned at the feet of the master

[Catherine Vincent]

21. LOL!

So true!

[Chemical Bill]

49. Credit where credit is due! n/t

[alphafemale]

65. Yeah. I picked up on that too. The girl can handle her liquor!

Do a backflip and spill NOT ONE DROP!

[DemGa]

19. Indeed, good balance on the drink

Notice it's nearly perfectly straight up and down. That requires practice, and dedication!

[DeSwiss]

20. From the pic you posted Bluebear....

...I'd say he's got the SURGE part pretty well down.

I wonder if this pic will be in her next children's book???



K&R!!!

[Katherine Brengle]

29. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE HERE???

Do you think children's book authors don't dance and drink and party and have sex?

I'm so fucking sick of this shit on DU.

Yeah, her father is the biggest fuck up in modern history. She's a 20-something who has a lot of privilege but so do a lot of other people.

If she wants to party and make out with her boyfriend/fiance and whatever else, that's her goddamn business.

[JuniperLea]

31. I agree... DU is creeping me out today...

The circular arguments, the holier-than-thou keyboard commadoes...

I never cared much about that the tight-assed Righties would see here, or say about what we all have to say, but quite frankly, my eyes are now opened. And I'm nauseous.

[Bluebear]

36. 'holier-than-thou keyboard commadoes' oh yeah that's me alright

[JuniperLea]

38. That wasn't directed at you Bluebear...

Your OP isn't even close to some of the stuff I've seen today.

[Bluebear]

39. phew

brengle there ain't too pleased with me.

The whole thing that ticks me off is the groom worked on the '04 campaign, now in business school, living his high life, while the poor saps his father-in-law sent to die are living a nightmare.

[JuniperLea]

43. Yeah, I got your point...

They should both be serving their country... but like the rest of the elite, they had other priorities, I'm sure.

I liked your points... but the thread disintegrated.

Personally, I'm just sick of this place today... I shouldn't be reading or posting at all.

:hug:

[Virginia Dare]

44. Do you think children's book authors don't dance and drink..

and party and have sex?..:rofl:

[DeSwiss]

48. As to your first query....

...what's wrong with everyone here, I can't possibly answer. So I'll assume you meant it to be rhetorical.

As for whether I think the writers of children's books drink and dance and have sex? My answer is yes. Yes, they do.

As for being sick of shit on DU, I'm not specifically certain of which shit it is that you speak. There are plenty of days when I get fed up with shit on DU as well. But I get over it and keep coming back.

As for the Bushes, I think that many people (like myself) are fed up with the act that they and many Repukes attempt to portray publicly as being staunch upholders of moral behavior. When we know that it is all for political reasons, and in fact most of the Bushes seem to be perfectly amoral, Barbara Jr., notwithstanding. She's used, and been used for political purposes for her family's benefit as well as her own. She's a public person and she knows it.

And to say she's "a 20-something with a lot of privilege, but so do a lot of other people" is a bit disingenuous if not naive. None of those other 20-something's of which you speak, have a father who has his finger poised over THE BUTTON nor are chomping at the bit to bomb Iran. And she will one day become a multi-millionaire. I think that a little more than "just privileged."

So it may very well be her goddamn business how she acts in public. But she's still fair game for commentary as well.

Have a nice day! :)

[mondo joe]

52. She campaigned for Bush. She's fair game for public criticism.

End of story.

[JI7]

56. she campaigned for the fucked up father unlike Ghoul's kids

[JI7]

57. have you checked out the threads on Vitter, Foley,Gannon and other male whores ?

[Puglover]

63. Bluebear said it the best

and if I said what I'd like to say it would be deleted. But Stephanie Miller often uses the phrase..."stick up the *** democrats. It applies here.

[Javaman]

68. Ahh if you only lived in austin...

You would know her past. it's a lot worse in some ways than here moron* father. I think
"moved the ball down field" comes to mind.

[ContraBass Black]

71. Seconded.

[Katherine Brengle]

28. Ugh.

Once again, is it possible to not like a female without subtly or otherwise labeling her as some sort of disgraced whore?

Liberals dance and make out and drink and party too.

Fuck "dainty" and the social construct of femininity it rode in on.

[Bluebear]

34. Ugh is right. The whole body of the post refers to HIM if that escaped you.

[noamnety]

45. I didn't need the gratuitous message

about how women are supposed to behave, either.

I am wearing combat fatigues right now and I haven't a clue in the world why I or any other woman in the universe is being trashed for - of all things - not being "dainty" enough.

DU needs to get over that shit.

[Bluebear]

50. I would have thought you knew me better.

You let me know when I have not been totally in support of women's rights or pro-choice, to now accuse me of "trashing women".

[noamnety]

53. I'm just talking about this one thread

Mocking women for not being dainty enough isn't your shining moment here.

One thread, one critique.

[Bluebear]

60. If you took from this that I am mocking women....

...I am suggesting that this "community" that one thinks one belongs to has turned into a place of over-projection and petty parsing.

In parting, the only lack of "daintiness" that I am commenting on here is Ms. Bush being mauled and dancing with drink in hand at an inaugural ball. It's not how I would act in public, but that's just me. This family holds itself up to be the shining example of Christianity itself, while I can't get married. While I can't serve in the military if I choose. And if she chooses to act in public like this, yes I think she opens herself up to scrutiny. And I stand behind the original body of the post, I don't know why her paramour isn't in Iraq.

But whatever. I'm mocking women and this just isn't my "shining moment". Talk about overreaction rather than giving someone the benefit of the doubt.

[noamnety]

64. I would look for a more gender neutral word

if your complaint is that she is stumbling drunk in public, how would you sarcastically describe that if it were a guy?

You wouldn't use the word "dainty" - because "dainty" isn't a requirement for men. The word choice gets at a whole notion not of how people are supposed to behave, but how women are supposed to behave. That's why I'm objecting to it.

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42. So, Grovelbot, how do you feel about this thread?

Is it fair to ask why the president's daughter's boyfriend isn't in the military?

It was fair to ask that about LBJ's daughters' boyfriends, and I think they both ended up serving in the military.

Are only Democratic presidents to be challenged?

[DeSwiss]

59. Through its "Official" DU spokesman.....

...GrovelBot issued the following communique....

"if she doesn't have washers or hex bolts, no soldered circuit boards, and she only lights up when she's drunk, well.... what's to like???"

:rofl:

[DemBones DemBones]

69. That does sound like something Grovelbot would say!

:rofl:

[leftchick]

40. no, he serves his country through the taxes he makes

from his gazillion dollar job he is unqualified for and inept at. BTW, where in the hell did you find that photo?

:applause:

[tblue37]

46. Since this picture is from an inaugural ball,

I think a bit of decorum would have been nice. Sure, people drink, party, and have sex--and I hope they have a good time doing so. But public behavior at an occasion like this is supposed to be G-rated.

[Cha]

58. Is that really the unlucky

asshole who gets to marry bushit's daughter?

[riderinthestorm]

61. What awkward body language on both of them!

I can't figure out if Jenna is trying to fake attraction and/or if he is trying to be the big lechorous wolf.... Her arms are so stiff and guarded and that fist! Wow! He's leaning way into her, she's leaning waaaayyy back.

We've made a lot of comments on DU about how Jenna and Barbara Bush's roles are to simply marry well into the conservative ranks and produce heirs, I get the creeps looking at this picture and imagining their Rethug fathers, mothers, and grandparents pairing them off....

I don't foresee a happy marriage with these two. I have no doubt they will be forced to stay together for the long haul but I don't see happiness here.

[LibDemAlways]

66. I don't see this as being for the "long haul" at all.

I think somewhere down the road he'll be referring to her as his "first wife" after he dumps her ass and marries trophy wife number 2. It's a time-honored republican tradition - ask Ghouliani and Fred Thompson.

[youthere]

67. Well isn't THAT special?

[Forkboy]

70. Tough room.