Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

When two stupid pieces of legislation collide, you have to ask hmmm...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:37 AM
Original message
When two stupid pieces of legislation collide, you have to ask hmmm...
First, we all knew the bankrupty law was a ticking time bomb. It was probably a good idea if it were directed to people who were investing in homes with the idea of flipping them, (never planning to live in them), but it should have excluded people who only had their primary home as an asset. That law occurred, what? Two or three years ago?

What else happened two or three years ago? The emergence of this stupid mortgage which I think they call TSRs which sounds every bit in violation to any anti-loan sharking regulation I have ever read. Someone else here will be better versed at explaining how they work. I just want to know why this horrible mortgage option was allowed and why are people like Kramer saying that the homeowner who took them probably didn't even know they had it? What happened to full disclosure? Why didn't someone sound the alarm earlier to point out that the combination of the bankruptcy law along with the TSR mortgages were a disaster waiting to happen? Seven million people are involved. That wipes out every poverty advancement we've had since the Clinton years.

Was this combination an accident? What lobbyists were involved in pushing for the bankruptcy law and who is responsible for thinking up the TSRs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:40 AM
Response to Original message
1. All by design IMO
Take down the middle class is their ultimate goal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:45 AM
Response to Original message
2. Credit Card Companies saw this coming years ago and that's why they paid for the new bankruptcy bill
Credit card obligations are 'unsecured' and therefore under previous bankruptcy law they often did not receive any kind of payment more than cents on the dollar under a Chapter 7 liquidation.

THe new bankruptcy bill prevents many people from filing under Chp 7 liquidation, and forces them into a Chapter 13 wage earner plan that requires the filer to make payments to a trustee for 3 or more years before getting a discharge. During that time the filer is allowed to keep a bare minimum of what the filer earns to pay for necessaries, and the rest is distributed among all the creditors --which often benefits the credit card companies.

And if the filer screws up during the pendency of the Chp 13 administration, they do not get their discharge.

Welcome to the new financial servitude rules.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 09:50 AM
Response to Original message
3. PT Barnum (of Barnum and Baily) a sucker is born every 10 minutes
Just sign on the dotted line and everything will be just fine.

Or as WC Feilds said when confronted about gambling, "Gambling? It's not gambling the way I play."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 03:29 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC