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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:39 PM
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For women, nothing's like the smell of men's sweat
For women, nothing's like the smell of men's sweat
Wed Feb 7, 2007 5:36 PM ET
By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - For women, apparently there's nothing like the smell of a man's sweat.

Researchers at the University of California at Berkeley said women who sniffed a chemical found in male sweat experienced elevated levels of an important hormone, along with higher sexual arousal, faster heart rate and other effects.

They said the study, published this week in the Journal of Neuroscience, represents the first direct evidence that people secrete a scent that influences the hormones of the opposite sex.

The study focused on androstadienone, considered a male chemical signal. A derivative of testosterone, it is found in male sweat as well as in saliva and semen. It smells somewhat musky...

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=scienceNews&storyID=2007-02-07T223604Z_01_N07442693_RTRUKOC_0_US-MEN-SWEAT.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsHome-C3-scienceNews-2
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:40 PM
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1. Oh please
Sweat stinks.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:41 PM
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4. Yeeeaaahhh Yeeeaahhh!
:rofl:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:43 PM
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5. The stink is caused by bacteria. Sweat alone doesn't stink.
But, unfortunately, the bacteria live with us all the time.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:35 AM
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72. nah
everytime my hubbie is all steamin' w/ sweat, I want to jump him.....:evilgrin:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:40 PM
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2. Hmmmmm... This should be good.
:popcorn:
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:41 PM
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3. I guess that explains
the fact that when I went with a group of my friends to a Yankee Candle store, my friend Erik complained that the candles my friend Erin and I were going crazy over "smell like a locker room." :rofl: Interesting.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:43 PM
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6. Bunch of hooey, unless the study was broken down into age and looks.
And horniness. :evilgrin:
I'm beyond all three, so I can say that.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:18 AM
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56. I don't know....
they way my husband smelled is what initially attracted him to me. He smelled just like a Cherry Lifesaver. And watching men perform physical labor (I know it's a rarity) has always worked me up. You should see my picture collection of construction workers.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:44 PM
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7. I guess it depends on what activity the sweat came from.
If you catch my drift? :)
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:44 PM
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8. I have had, on several occasion, women give me a hug and say
"oh, you smell nice, what are you wearing?", when I am in fact wearing nothing (as a scent ;)) more than a hard days work.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 07:28 AM
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49. The "Rat Pee" theory of sexual attraction.
We (mammals) all have various genetic factors; one is
called the Major Histocompatibility Complex (MHC). If
you'd like to bear a child who has a strong immune
system, you probably want a mate who *DOES* NOT* share
your own MHC. In fact, you probably want a mate whose
MHC is as divergent from your own as possible.

It has been reliably, scientifically proven that rats
can smell out the MHC of other rats in their pee, and
on the basis of how their pee smells, they will choose
as mates a rat with a divergent MHC.

Research is starting to show that we humans have the
same capability. It's not necessarily something that
rises to the level of consciousness, but certain
people smell "more right" to us than other people.
And in women, this capability of smelling out the
right partners seems to rise at the fertile "time
of the month".

So when women say: "oh, you smell nice,..", what
they may really be saying is "we'd make healthy
babies together."

Tesha
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:11 AM
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54. fascinating
And yeah, sometimes I was able to pick up on what they were saying :-D
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:04 PM
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77. Yes indeed! n/t
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:44 PM
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9. Blech. Unwashed man smell (or woman smell for that matter) = yack
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:29 AM
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32. What a surprise? I don't suppose washing helps either for you? nt.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:45 PM
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10. I like looking at sweaty handsome men, but I don't wanna smell 'em...
ICK!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:45 PM
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11. So why should men bother with underarm deodorant?

:shrug:

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:49 PM
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19. It's a law
(I don't care that that is a lie...but it should be a law that people have to wear deodorant).
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:51 PM
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22. I don't wear deodorant
I prefer to smell my natural oder. I also refuse to cut my hair and don't like to shower more then once a week as not to deplete th natural oils in my skin and hair.

I also would rather die then work at a job where I had to wear a tie and suit.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:16 AM
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30. Organic exterminator?
:shrug:
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:03 AM
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37. Nope, just too smart to buy into the crap human body oder
smells bad, it flat doesn't. I refer my partner to not use deodorant, that stuff is noxious.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:03 PM
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76. I've always anti perspirants as I think they might have a link to breast

cancer. you know, anything that can stop a portion of your body from sweating must be suspect.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:41 AM
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34. Are you single? nt
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:00 AM
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36. Yup.
Edited on Fri Feb-09-07 01:00 AM by Ferret Mike
But I am 52, never married and want no relationship right now. It doesn't matter though, in Eugene, Oregon, many women never shave, can go topless, and feel the same way I do regarding the consumerism crap concerning hygiene.

Deodorant is nasty anyway, I never have used it when I didn't have to.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:11 AM
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38. The act of not using deodorant, , or washing your hair for a week, or
basic cleanliness things (to me), turn me off. Topless and hairy are fine; I demand cleanliness.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:28 AM
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40. To each their own
I am not only extremely fit and healthy, but I look very young for my age.



Summer, 2006, Mike McCarthy, age 52
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 10:18 AM
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62. Shut up, you're not 52!
:)

Anyway have you ever used that rock mineral deodorant? The natural kind? It's all I use now. It's safe, natural, and it works. It's called "Crystal Stick Deodorant for Men" and you can buy it anywhere now. I recommend it. Others around you would appreciate it.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:11 AM
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66. hmm...not bad :)
:thumbsup:
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PLF Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:05 AM
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65. wearing deodorant has nothing to do with cleanliness

that idea is just a product of a lifetime of brainwashing.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:46 PM
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12. Not for this woman! I like my men smelling like roses
good smelling ones at that. I can get more excited about roses than I can sweat. Yuck and double yuck.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:33 AM
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46. but Old Spice ad said something about "smelling like wild flowers and shame."
who are men to believe? Old Spice wouldn't steer them wrong, would they?

:silly:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:46 PM
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13. Yah - nothing gets the chicks like BO. ROFL.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:46 PM
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14. Then someone explain how freepers reproduce. n/t
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:47 PM
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15. From cabbage patches????
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:49 PM
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20. Snowflake babies
They don't actually reproduce on their own. Instead they harvest each other's eggs and sperm to create their own kind. :P
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:56 PM
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23. But see, that would involve effort, not to mention leaving the basement.
You could work up a sweat.

lol
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:23 AM
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39. They have to leave the basement occasionally
how else are they going to mail their threatening letters to people like Jon Stewart and KO?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:06 AM
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43. Yeah, sometimes Mom has to air the place out and sweep up the Cheetos
:rofl:
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:33 AM
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71. And suddenly the mystery smell from NJ a few weeks ago is solved
:rofl:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:48 PM
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16. this has been known for years
at least, I've known it for years. :D

nothing smells as good as a clean, sweaty man.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:48 PM
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17. I know most are "bleching" themselves out, but I love the way
my husband smells when he comes home from a long day at work. When he gets up and goes to work I bury my face in his pillow for a few moments. Nothing wrong with it.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:57 PM
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84. I was hoping you'd be on this thread!
We've discussed this before. ;-) :hi:

Man Smell. There is nothing better -- well, there's Clean Baby Smell. :woohoo:

Julie
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:49 PM
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18. I'm getting all hot.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:57 PM
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24. ...and sweaty even??
:hi:
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:00 AM
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27. MMMmmm, sweaty mens!
A lot would depend upon the producer of said sweat.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:50 PM
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21. I have often seduced women with the awesome power of my gym socks.
Indeed, some days my "athletic" prowess can get them horizontal in mere seconds--along with half the people in the room.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:57 PM
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25. rofl
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:59 PM
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26. I guess that explains the aromas I detected in England, France, Italy, and Belgium.
:shrug: Then again, maybe it doesn't.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:02 AM
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28. Do smelly feet count? Women always seem to flock to me when my feet stink.
There's something about that particular aroma that makes them go wild. Unfortunately, ladies, my feet only stink every so often. Sorry.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:10 AM
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29. Ewwwwwwwwwww
I think not!!! :puke:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:16 AM
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31. MMMMMMM... MAN.... I have to agree
Edited on Fri Feb-09-07 12:16 AM by helderheid
So long as he's my man!
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:30 AM
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33. Interesting study....
Edited on Fri Feb-09-07 12:33 AM by Dystopian
...it's a fact of life...



peace~
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:43 AM
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35. The boy's locker room must be nirvana for them then, huh?
And sweat socks are sooooo sexy.

LoL
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heidler1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:48 AM
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42. All men do not have the same odor. My older brother had many
women and they all loved him. His sweat always had a pleasant smell with no deodorant. I first noticed it when I was a young boy.

Before indoor plumbing many people hardly bathed during the winter in South Dakota.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 07:38 AM
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52. The boys locker room was nirvana
for that gym teacher in Porky's.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:32 AM
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41. It's the androstadienone, not a person's stench that does it.
If you could separate the stench from the androstadienone, you could probably synthesize it into some kind of cologne.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:38 AM
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44. My Wife Used To Get All Romantic When I'd Come Home All Tired And Sweaty
But I thought it was just the paycheck.

Sure enough

When the paychecks stopped coming

so did we
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:42 AM
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45. Incoming!!!! (look out for huge phallic crap projectiles!)
Edited on Fri Feb-09-07 02:43 AM by Triana
'nuff said.

Remember: Monkeys fling their own feces - and consider the source.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:18 PM
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82. what's a phallic crap projectile?! nt
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 06:05 PM
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86. THIS
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 07:53 PM
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88. well i guess i walked right into that one...
but this is the most useless long thread i have ever seen.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:43 AM
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47. Gag
Oh yeah right nothing like that smell to make you wanna puke. :puke: I don't like the smell of sweat, men's or women's. x(
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 04:13 AM
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48. I find foul odors to be an IMMEDIATE turn off
I don't care how cute or sexy the guy is. If he doesn't smell right, get out of my sight!
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 07:37 AM
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50. This I believe
I have had a couple of girl friends who nwere turned on when I was sweaty stinky.At the time I thought it was a little strange.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 07:38 AM
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51. There's definitely something to it, but it can be a bir more complicated
When we first got together and our brain chemistry was running wild, my GF was intensely aroused by my smell - to the point where she would ask me to wear a t-shirt for a couple days and give it to her as a constant reminder. Now it's years later and our relationship has stabilized. These days I tend to hear, "You will be taking a shower before you come to bed, right?"

So I suspect there's something in the brain's chemistry that dramatically affects our perception and interpretation of smells.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 07:47 AM
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53. I bet it loses compared to the scent of $100 dollar bills. n/t
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:13 AM
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55. how about lesbians?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:17 AM
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67. Someone posted the results of a study about a year ago, I think
The study found that gay men were more attracted to scents produced by other gay men, but not heterosexual men, and that heterosexual women were more attracted to scents produced by heterosexual men, but not gay men.

Lesbians, IIRC, weren't included in the study, but it does make you wonder, doesn't it?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:23 AM
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69. I understand some of them like sweaty men too
:hide:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:07 PM
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80. I think they might like the smell of their partners' BO.
It's just chemical attraction... the sex doesn't matter, no matter how misleading this article may be about it.

:hi:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:23 AM
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57. And this is somehow new information?
Edited on Fri Feb-09-07 09:23 AM by Clark2008
I've known this ever since I was old enough to care about men. It's called pheromones. :7
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:30 AM
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58. Actually Puke Does Smell Worse
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:32 AM
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59. Porkys comes to mind when I read this
The gal that was turned on by the used jocks and socks in the boys locker room..... :shrug:
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 10:01 AM
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60. Why is this a surprise?
Phermones. As animals, what makes us different than the other mammals who rely on smell as a precursor to mating. My guess is that this is probably true for men as well. If they did a study with the gay and lesbian population, it most likely would be true that they are attracted to the scent of the same sex.

My question is what came first the chicken or the egg. Is this something that occurs at birth or can this develop, change and adapt the older we get.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:51 AM
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73. Funny What Happens When You Start to Recognize
And separate what *attracts you* versus the messages the advertising world *tells you* is attractive.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:06 PM
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85. Yes,
and how we are conditioned by the media, and Madison Avenue.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:07 PM
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81. Exactly!
Chemical attraction, plain and simple. :)
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 10:08 AM
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61. My wife loves it when I come in all swarthy and greasy after cutting the grass.
Yep, it's true folks. Can't keep her hands off me. What do i do? I've tried to shower and all, but she just loves the sweat and macho greasiness, especially after working on the car, mowing the grass, slapping the hogs...

(too obvious for sarcasm smiley)
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 10:19 AM
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63. OMG... Humans are animals? Stop the presses...
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 10:52 AM
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64. Isn't this kind of a duh study
on a primitive level of course women like the smell of men's sweat. The cavemen and cave ladies didn't have Channel and Old Spice and yet the species continued.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:20 AM
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68. They forgot the part about
the fact that's what's attractive is not a sweaty man who hasn't bathed in the last three days (yuck), but a slightly sweaty man who has bathed within the last couple of hours.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:25 AM
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double doop
Edited on Fri Feb-09-07 11:29 AM by maxsolomon
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:25 AM
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its not the sweat its the phermones
you know that face cats make when they are REALLY smelling something? we can do it too.

here's a secret: we're mammals.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:25 AM
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70. doop
Edited on Fri Feb-09-07 11:29 AM by maxsolomon
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:52 AM
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74. Maybe that's why I'm a lesbian. (n/t)
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:57 AM
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75. men's sweat never aroused me - maybe the sniffing women reacted

to the bad smell and the arousal was a flight symptom. you know, he smells bad so back up out of smell range.

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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:05 PM
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78. Sweat smells one way. B.O. smells entirely differently.
I am surprised at the confusion in this thread. I love the way my man smells when he's been working.

A foul stink causes me to wonder about his health, his heart - is he worried or anxious? is he coming down with something?

His smell after a four-hour gig is one of labor and satisfaction. Gets me every time.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:06 PM
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79. Doesn't surprise me at all.
Not one bit.

In fact, I think the chemistry of attraction is revealed by how we respond to prospective partners' smells. The more offensive you find the scent, the less strong the chemical attraction is.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:25 PM
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83. Jane to Tarzan: "Hi, big boy...lose the Right Guard"
Silliness abounds.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 06:07 PM
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87. I Thought This Was Realllllllly Old News. I've Known That For Quite Some Time, So I Was A Bit
surprised to see them say it's the first direct evidence. Haven't there been all sorts of studies on this years past that yielded the same conclusion?
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