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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:22 PM
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Iran attack?...
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Features > September 28, 2004
Is Iran Next?

The Pentagon neocons who brought you the war in Iraq have a new target
By Tom Barry

Shortly after 9/11, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith began coordinating Pentagon planning for an invasion of Iraq. The challenge facing Feith, the No. 3 civilian in the Defense Department, was to establish a policy rationale for the attack. At the same time, Feith’s ideological cohorts in the Pentagon began planning to take the administration’s “global war on terrorism,” not only to Baghdad, but also to Damascus and Tehran.
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/1114/
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Middle East Features
U.S. preps Iran strike
By Martin Walker
Dec 30, 2005, 19:00 GMT


WASHINGTON, DC, United States (UPI) -- The Bush administration is preparing its NATO allies for a possible military strike against suspected nuclear sites in Iran in the New Year, according to German media reports, reinforcing similar earlier suggestions in the Turkish media.

The Berlin daily Der Tagesspiegel this week quoted \'NATO intelligence sources\' who claimed that the NATO allies had been informed that the United States is currently investigating all possibilities of bringing the mullah-led regime into line, including military options. This \'all options are open\' line has been President George W Bush`s publicly stated policy throughout the past 18 months.

But the respected German weekly Der Spiegel notes \'What is new here is that Washington appears to be dispatching high-level officials to prepare its allies for a possible attack rather than merely implying the possibility as it has repeatedly done during the past year.\'
http://mehr.org/US_Iran_strike.htm

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Now US ponders attack on Iran
Hardliners in Pentagon ready to neutralise 'nuclear threat' posed by Tehran

Julian Borger in Washington and Ian Traynor
Tuesday January 18, 2005

The Guardian

President Bush's second inauguration on Thursday will provide the signal for an intense and urgent debate in Washington over whether or when to extend the "global war on terror" to Iran, according to officials and foreign policy analysts in Washington.

That debate is being driven by "neo-conservatives" at the Pentagon who emerged from the post-election Bush reshuffle unscathed, despite their involvement in collecting misleading intelligence on Iraq's weapons in the run-up to the 2003 invasion.

Article continues
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1392750,00.html
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U.S. studies Iran threat scenarios as Bush talks tough
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Thursday, February 10, 2005

The U.S. Central Command has been closely monitoring and updating plans for an attack on Iran.


Although the Pentagon has emphasised that the process is routine for the military, the muscular rhetoric coming from President George W. Bush and Sec. of State Condoleezza Rice has served to underscore the U.S. attentiveness to the range of threat scenarios in the Middle East and other regions.

"The Iranians just need to know that the free world is working together to send a very clear message: Don't develop a nuclear weapon," President George Bush said on Wednesday. "And the reason we're sending that message is because Iran with a nuclear weapon would be a very destabilizing force in the world.
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/breaking2453412.047222222.html
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Wary Iran readies for guerrilla war if U.S. invades
Sunday, February 27, 2005

By Borzou Daragahi, Special to the Post-Gazette

TEHRAN, Iran -- Iran has begun publicly preparing for a possible U.S. military attack, announcing efforts to mobilize recruits in citizens' militias and making plans to engage in the type of "asymetrical" guerrilla warfare which has bogged down American troops in neighboring Iraq.

"Iran would respond within 15 minutes to any attack by the United States or any other country," said an Iranian official close to the conservatives who run the country's security and military apparatus.

Tensions between Tehran and Washington have been escalating over Iran's pursuit of nuclear technology. Tehran insists it needs nuclear power to meet its burgeoning domestic energy needs and to bolster its scientific community. Washington accuses Iran of using nuclear energy as a fig leaf for a weapons program.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05058/462990.stm
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December 30, 2005
THE US AND IRAN
Is Washington Planning a Military Strike?

Recent reports in the German media suggest that the United States may be preparing its allies for an imminent military strike against facilities that are part of Iran's suspected clandestine nuclear weapons program.


It's hardly news that US President George Bush refuses to rule out possible military action against Iran if Tehran continues to pursue its controversial nuclear ambitions. But in Germany, speculation is mounting that Washington is preparing to carry out air strikes against suspected Iranian nuclear sites perhaps even as soon as early 2006.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,392783,00.html
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U.S. plans naval buildup in Gulf
CENTCOM plans to use 'gunboat diplomacy,' officials tell NBC News
NBC News and news services
Updated: 10:53 a.m. ET Dec 19, 2006


WASHINGTON - The U.S. Central Command is aggressively planning a naval buildup in the Persian Gulf, including the addition of a second aircraft carrier, in response to a series of aggressive actions by Iran, U.S. military officials told NBC News on Tuesday.

The officials pointed to Iran's interference in Iraq — including its support for Shiite militants and shipments of improvised explosive devices into the country — recent military naval exercises in the Gulf, and its pursuit of nuclear weapons.

The attempt at "gunboat diplomacy" is in its final planning stages. Although it has not been approved yet, it appears likely the increase in U.S. warships into the Gulf could come as early as January, the officials said
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16281057
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US prepares military blitz against Iran's nuclear sites

By Philip Sherwell in Washington
Last Updated: 1:34am GMT 14/02/2006


'10,000 would die' in A-plant attack on Iran
Weblog: A sobering view of Iran

Strategists at the Pentagon are drawing up plans for devastating bombing raids backed by submarine-launched ballistic missile attacks against Iran's nuclear sites as a "last resort" to block Teheran's efforts to develop an atomic bomb.

Central Command and Strategic Command planners are identifying targets, assessing weapon-loads and working on logistics for an operation, the Sunday Telegraph has learnt.

They are reporting to the office of Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, as America updates plans for action if the diplomatic offensive fails to thwart the Islamic republic's nuclear bomb ambitions. Teheran claims that it is developing only a civilian energy programme.

"This is more than just the standard military contingency assessment," said a senior Pentagon adviser. "This has taken on much greater urgency in recent months."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/12/wiran12.xml
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Iran attack? Plans are well underway
Matthew Fisher, National Post
Published: Monday, March 20, 2006

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/archives/story.html?id=c63e8419-1562-4a83-8f34-b225c1235385&k=73525
RAMSTEIN, Germany - Scores of camouflaged, over-sized U.S. Air Force transport aircraft lumber into the sky every day from this U.S. air base, hauling troops and war materiel to and from the battles now raging in the Middle East and Central Asia.

Nobody knows yet what, if anything, George W. Bush intends to do about the Islamic Republic of Iran's nuclear ambitions. However, if Bush does give his forces the green light to attack Iran, this air hub in the western Rhineland, which has been vital to sustaining the furious tempo of the U.S. President's global war on terror, could become even busier.

The talk about Iran from the West, and especially from Washington, is getting more incendiary by the day. But many military experts doubt whether the United States can successfully land knockout punches on all of Iran's many and disparate nuclear facilities. However daunting an attack on Iran may be, though, war planning is undoubtedly well underway.

"A sudden unexplained explosion at a U.S. embassy, a clash with militias in Basra, or a thousand other things could call the administration's bluff," according to Sick. "(T)here are certainly individuals in and around the administration who would not hesitate for a second to recommend a bombing attack on Iran." (END/2006)
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Report: Israel pressuring U.S. over Iran attack
The Washington Post reports that despite fact U.S. intelligence sources believe that Iran needs another 10 years before having nuclear weapons, Israel believes critical breakthrough will happen within months, and is therefore pressuring the Americans
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 04.09.06, 11:02 / Israel News


WASHINGTON - The U.S. government is continuing to aspire for a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear problem, but doubts for chances of success are growing, a Washington Post article published on Sunday said.

According to the paper, Israeli officials who visited Washington recently gave the Americans an urgent message regarding Iran: The Islamic Republic was closer to developing a nuclear bomb than Washington realizes, and the moment of decision is approaching quickly.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3237839,00.html
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William M. Arkin on National and Homeland Security
Despite Denials, U.S. Plans for Iran War
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2006/04/despite_denials_us_plans_for_i.html
The U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) has been conducting theater campaign analysis for a full scale war with Iran since at least May 2003, responding to Pentagon directions to prepare for potential operations in the "near term."


The campaign analysis, called TIRANNT, for "theater Iran near term," posits an Iraq-like maneuver war between U.S. and Iranian ground forces and incorporates lessons learned from Operation Iraqi Freedom.
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In February 2005, after a similar flurry of news reporting on U.S. military options for Iran, the Deputy Commander of CENTCOM Lt. Gen. Lance Smith was asked at a Pentagon briefing if the Tampa based command was in any kind of heightened state of planning when it comes to Iran.

"We plan everything," Smith responded. "We have a requirement on a regular basis to update plans. We try to keep them current, particularly if -- you know, if our region is active. But I haven't been called into any late-night meetings at, you know, 8:00 at night, saying, 'Holy cow, we got to sit down and go plan for Iran.'
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POLITICS-US: Psy-War or Serious? Washington Mulls Iran Attack
By Jim Lobe
WASHINGTON, Apr 10 (IPS) - Three years after the fall of Baghdad to U.S. forces, Washington is abuzz about new reports that the administration of Pres. George W. Bush is preparing to attack Iran, possibly with nuclear weapons.


Indeed, as in Iraq, hardliners in and outside the administration may be embarked on their own psy-war campaign against more moderate forces within the administration, either to counter European pressure on Washington to engage Iran in direct negotiations, to provoke Iran into an overreaction that would offer a pretext for an attack, or to rhetorically box the administration into a position where it would look unacceptably weak if it did not take action.
(END/2006)
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32849
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U.S. said to speed plans for Iran attacks
Eric Schmitt
International Herald Tribune
04-10-2006

Scott Shane contributed reporting for this article.* The Bush administration, which publicly advocates negotiations to halt Iran's nuclear program, is accelerating military planning for possible attacks against Iran, and has not ruled out using tactical nuclear weapons, according to a new article.The article, by Seymour Hersh in The New Yorker, asserts that the Pentagon last winter presented the White House with an option to use bunker-buster nuclear bombs against Iran's underground nuclear sites. When the Joint Chiefs of Staff later ...
Read the rest of this article http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-121599126.html
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U.S. poised to attack Iran?
Online edition of India's National Newspaper
Saturday, Feb 17, 2007


Hasan Suroor
10,000 targets can be hit in a single air raid

LONDON: American plans for a military strike on Iran are "complete'' and the attack is to be launched "any day'', New Statesman magazine has said.


In an alarming cover story in its latest issue titled "Attack — Revealed: America's plans to invade Iran'', the Left-wing journal claims that American preparations "extend far beyond'' targeting only Iran's suspected nuclear sites. What Americans are planning, it says, is a "major conventional war'' that will "enable President Bush to destroy Iran's military, political and economic infrastructure overnight using conventional weapons''.

In a report, "Ready to Attack'', Dan Plesch, a leading defence and security expert at the School of Oriental and African Studies, quotes British military sources as saying that the U.S. has been preparing for an armed confrontation with Iran for four years

http://www.hindu.com/2007/02/17/stories/2007021703151800.htm
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US 'Iran attack plans' revealed
Last Updated: Tuesday, 20 February 2007, 10:28 GMT

US aircraft carrier USS John C Stennis (file picture)
USS John C Stennis is being deployed to the Persian Gulf
US contingency plans for air strikes on Iran extend beyond nuclear sites and include most of the country's military infrastructure, the BBC has learned.

The BBC's Tehran correspondent Frances Harrison says the news that there are now two possible triggers for an attack is a concern to Iranians.

Authorities insist there is no cause for alarm but ordinary people are now becoming a little worried, she says.
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Earlier this month US officers in Iraq said they had evidence Iran was providing weapons to Iraqi Shia militias. However the most senior US military officer later cast doubt on this, saying that they only had proof that weapons "made in Iran" were being used in Iraq.

Gen Peter Pace, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said he did not know that the Iranian government "clearly knows or is complicit" in this.

At the time, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said the accusations were "excuses to prolong the stay" of US forces in Iraq.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6376639.stm
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January 19, 2007

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. contingency planning for military action against Iran's nuclear program goes beyond limited strikes and would effectively unleash a war against the country, a former U.S. intelligence analyst said on Friday.


"I've seen some of the planning ... You're not talking about a surgical strike," said Wayne White, who was a top Middle East analyst for the State Department's bureau of intelligence and research until March 2005.

"You're talking about a war against Iran" that likely would destabilize the Middle East for years, White told the Middle East Policy Council, a Washington think tank
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/01/20/us_plans_envision_broad_attack_on_iran_analyst/
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Feb 20, 2007 6:43 pm US/Pacific
Report: U.S. Ready With Plans To Attack Iran

Hank Plante
Reporting

(CBS 5) The United States reportedly has contingency plans for a military attack on targets in Iran, but one expert believes having the plans does not indicate the U.S. intends to strike.
http://cbs5.com/national/local_story_051215650.html
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:25 PM
Response to Original message
1. You tell me
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 04:37 PM by seemslikeadream
Bush's Inconceivable Interest in Iran Sat Apr-01-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=819437

Senior U.S. Officials “Want to Hit Iran” Tue Apr-04-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=844418

Larisa Alexandrovna: CHENEY TAPS IRANIAN ARMS DEALER FOR IRAN TALKS Thu Apr-20-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=977234

Seymour Hersh said something startling about Rumsfeld on Democracy Now Fri Aug-18-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1936421

So former DLC, PNAC member Abram Shulsky feeding Cheney info on Iran? Sat Aug-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1944614

Fuck. Iran has started "war games." Escalation may only be expected. Sun Aug-20-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1949812

Attack on Iran is Coming Sun Aug-27-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1993284

"Grave threat". Yes, it's deja vu all over again. Thu Aug-31-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2022620

UN attacks US nuclear report on Iran erroneous misleading unsubstantiated Sun Sep-17-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2159951

We Are Conducting Military Operations Inside Iran Right Now Tue Sep-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2168218

Navy told: Prepare to blockade Iran by Oct 1 Mon Sep-18-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2161779

Pentagon Iran Office Mimics Former Iraq Office Wed Sep-20-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2179484

“This is the largest massing of military power in the region, and it is gathering for a reason.” Sat Nov-18-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2753952

Seymour Hersh: Cheney Says 'Whether Or Not Dems Win-NO STOPPING Military Option With Iran' Sun Nov-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2757350

Does anyone still believe the US will launch a full scale invasion of Iran? Mon Dec-04-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2856177

Saudi clerics rally support for Sunnis and Saudi ambassador Abruptly Resigns Tue Dec-12-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2902643

Act III in a Tragedy of Many Parts - The US Occupation of Iraq Sun Dec-17-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2935498

Century Foundation Iran White Paper Series Fundamentalists, Pragmatists and the Rights of the Nation Tue Dec-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2948146

Oh shit Tue Dec-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2944423

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFowNFvmUxw

I've been waiting for something to happen
For a week or a month or a year
With the blood in the ink of the headlines
And the sound of the crowd in my ear
You might ask what it takes to remember
When you know that youve seen it before
Where a government lies to a people
And a country is drifting to war

And theres a shadow on the faces
Of the men who send the guns
To the wars that are fought in places
Where their business interest runs

On the radio talk shows and the t.v.
You hear one thing again and again
How the u.s.a. stands for freedom
And we come to the aid of a friend
But who are the ones that we call our friends--
These governments killing their own?
Or the people who finally can't take any more
And they pick up a gun or a brick or a stone
There are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire

Theres a shadow on the faces
Of the men who fan the flames
Of the wars that are fought in places
Where we cant even say the names

They sell us the president the same way
They sell us our clothes and our cars
They sell us every thing from youth to religion
The same time they sell us our wars
I want to know who the men in the shadows are
I want to hear somebody asking them why
They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are
But they're never the ones to fight or to die
And there are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire


Prelude to an Attack on Iran "There will be an attack on Iran." ROBERT BAER
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1625957

The Long String of “Coincidences” on Our Road to War and its Cover-up
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1634369

Reply #33: Beating Louder on Iran Bush's War Drums
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=165702&mesg_id=170402

Bolton: I ‘Absolutely’ Hope The U.S. Will Attack Iran In The Next ‘Six Months’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1640855

Former CIA Officer: US to Attack Iran Within 6 Months
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1633512

Iranian helicopter downed in Iraq
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1621191

Kurds flee homes as Iran shells villages in Iraq
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1621227

Read Chris Floyd: "Project Management: Bushists Through the Looking-Glass on Iran Charges"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1616482

This will be my last post in the foreseeable future about the coming attack on Iran
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1601993

Michael Ledeen's Dangerous Iran Obsession
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1612651

Worth a mention. JoeforClark? was worried about the Kurds,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1604939

Cheney urging strikes on Iran: McClatchy Newspapers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1573102

Of Chertoff, Cheney, Radioactive Trucks and Tinfoil...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1556240

S. commander says Iraqi cleric Sadr in Iran
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1560971

A New Tactical Twist in the Coming War on Iran
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1562014

Bush Cheney launch coordinated campaign to pin Iraq's troubles on IRAN
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1554535

After Propagating False Iraq Intel, NYT’s Michael Gordon Now Echoing Bush Claims On Iran
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1544525

Iran Promotes US War with Turkey
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1463997

B-2s being fitted for Bunker Buster Bomb - FOR IRAN???
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1414759

Kurdish officials in northern Iraq say they fear a full-scale invasion
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1411790

U.S. Funding Armed Groups to Overthrow Iranian Government:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1603806


A Hegemonic Hubris More War on the Horizon By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1656303

Iran Freedom Support Act
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1659784
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:44 PM
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4. Convoluted as this may be...
I'm thinking the threat to Iran, is to get Iran to use it's influence to apply pressure to the Iraqi government to pass the oil law. Sort of like the arms for the release of the hostages in Lebanon...but with all stick and no carrot. Whatever it is, it's very hard to take these threats seriously, and at the same time....anythings possible.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:53 PM
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5. Study: US PREPARING 'MASSIVE' MILITARY ATTACK AGAINST IRAN (Larisa Alexandrovna)
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:22 PM
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10. that was the post...
that got my attention....but no matter how big the headlines the story is always the same. Heavy on alarming possibilities, but not too much in the way of logic or intentions. I am seeking understanding...a little clarity with my dose of terror. Maybe there is something here, that can shed some light?


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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:27 PM
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2. They sure seem to be talking about Iran lately.
"I have authorized our military commanders in Iraq to confront Tehran's murderous activities." - Bush today.

He's insane. He imagines we'll bomb Iran back to the stone age. The shithead can't learn. He'll start a fucking world war. An idiot is in the position where he can start a world war.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:31 PM
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3. Thanks For All Those Reminders
Ever since the "Axis of Evil," it's been plain knowledge Washington wants to attack Iran. The last 3 years have been spent preparing the US public (and everyone else, I suppose).


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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:54 PM
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6. My guess ...
is that they really really want to attack Iran but they fucked up Iraq so bad that their plan has been repeatedly pushed back.

or you could go with the fundie explanation.....

Wars and Rumors of Wars....
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:59 PM
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7. ...or both...they aren't mutually exclusive...
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:00 PM
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8. Very true
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:00 PM
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9. I know it makes me a doom and gloomer
but yep, I think they will, and the repercussions will change the face of our world.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:44 PM
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11. Pretty much an inevitability before the 2008 election, it's just down to deciding on the most
propitious time.

It's still possible that some saner heads somewhere in the DC power structure might prevent it, but I'm not holding out much hope.

I've been following this issue very closely for some time. I just don't see anyone showing up to stop an attack on Iran, if the "Decider" decides to do it. Even the Dem "leadership" is already on board, as are the major Dem presidential candidates.

I've also, over the past 6+ years, not seen ANY evidence that bushco isn't crazy and bloodthirsty enough to attack Iran. And, since the plans are for a massive air offensive -- as opposed to using ground forces -- and since the Air Force has been deeply infested with christofascists and is just itching for a chance to kick some Muslim ass -- there's too damn many folks who WANT to do it. And damn few who would really rather not.

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:45 PM
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12. but I thought he was going to attack Iran to save the 2006 election

:shrug:
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:07 PM
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13. It would be more advantageous just to do it in 08
and declare himself king when stuff starts blowing up over here.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:11 PM
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14. The disasterous execution and outcome of the attack on Lebanon last summer forced them to
scratch Plan A: defeat Hizbullah, exhibit the "proof" that Iran is trying to "destroy" Israel and expand the attack to Iran. But the Lebanon adventure definitely did NOT go as expected, so they regrouped and went back to the drawing board, and the continuous build-up of the anti-Iran propaganda has been ratcheting up regularily ever since.

The most recent move: declaring Iran's Revolutionary Guard to be a "terrorist organization" is a master stroke -- it means that bush can attack Iran under the terms of both the original 2001 AUMF resolution, and the 2002 IWR, and Congress can't do a thing about it. Congress already gave bushco all the cover they need to just go ahead and do Iran whenever they feel like it.

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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:24 PM
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15.  I think they will attack because they can and the oil control
It's almost as if there are a group of desires being played out here . Bush wants to be the king , cheney wants the profits and loves death . Rummy even though seemingly out of the picture loves his military hardware and wants real time real world tests .

I am so sick of a lifetime of wars and death . Man will never learn and as bad as this may sound if they do attack then just maybe the results will finally teach these freaks and mankind what a mistake this sort of thinking really is .

No one in their right mind wants this to happen but then how many are in their right mind that are in control ?
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