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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:46 PM
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Why Did Vitter Fess Up and Craig Tell a Big Fib?

He won’t admit it


Sen. Larry Craig

"He denounced the longstanding probes by the Statesman -- he called it a "witch hunt" -- for inspiring him to plead guilty to the offense even though he said he was actually innocent. He said he had been "viciously harassed" by the newspaper. "I am not gay," he said twice. "I love my wife."

Editor & Publisher

…but he will…



Sen. David Vitter

"This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible," Vitter said in the statement. "Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling. Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there -- with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way."

MSNBC

WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE?

:shrug:



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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:48 PM
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1. Big no no for repubs to be gay
OK to bang some chick not your wife.

He never fessed up to all that diaper shit did he? That kinda doesn't fit with the repub macho stereotype.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:59 PM
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9. That's one outstanding cat!

Well, that's pretty good. It's the hetero thing that let Vitter get away with it, in addition to the total decadence of our political system;) ... but that's the answer to everything, therefore it lacks descriptive power.

I like your explanation
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:52 PM
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2. Who cares? I didn't like them before, I don't like them after. It's not like
I'm paying attention to their excuses. For all we know, Vitter may be lying and Craig telling the truth. They are politicians, they are Republicans, and they support Bush. That's three levels of some serious bad shit right there. Even when they are telling the truth they are lying. Let the stinking Republicants worry about their idiots.

Hell, I don't even think either one did anything all that bad. I'm more disgusted by the stuff they do in Congress than by how they get their jollies outside of it.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:01 PM
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10. Colect for $8000 - their obscenity is death, destruction, looting the planet
Hard to argue with that...but this certainly shows that MASSIVE F'ING HYPOCRITES THEY ARE!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:52 PM
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3. To be accurate
I'm not so sure Vitter spoke the whole truth. There is talk of an illegitimate child and continued patronage of prostitutes that if true, defy his "it was all in the past" confession.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:17 PM
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13. Right, his story is so complicated
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 09:20 PM by autorank
Here's one of the twists David Vitter: Liar. Hypocrite. Whoremonger.

Vitter has yet to explain this.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:52 PM
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4. Don't ask don't tell?
:shrug:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:56 PM
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5. The difference is that tomorrow is Katrina Day, and the MSM is helping Bush bury the story. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:05 PM
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11. It's the mediawhores we need to
bury.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:56 PM
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6. self-delete, nt
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 09:04 PM by 0rganism
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:58 PM
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7. In all fairness, Craig's carefully parsing may be very truthful.
Watch it again. Consider carefully what exactly he said at his "non-denial."
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 03:13 AM
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15. Who was Craig fair too? He deserves fairness. He got a trial. He pleaded guilty.

It's pretty straight forward. The police were clear, he pleaded guilty. He can parse with the best of them, but he's a massive hypocrite who trashes other people for their lifestyle while he's got his own thing going. Who wants to use an airport restroom if you're going to run into Larry Craig looking for his business card. He pleaded guilty. He has no special "cover up" insurance. He's as flawed as the next guy but he'll not admit that.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:59 PM
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8. Simple answer: Hetero Sex vs. Gay Sex
More complex answer:

Someone else mentioned it above, and I think that's what it is too. The homophobic right wing oppressors see nothing wrong with screwing around on your wife with another woman, yet gays are to be scorned, ridiculed and shunned. They spend their lives trying "cure" gayness or legislate it out of existence. Many of these guys have latent homosexual desires, but try their damnedest to suppress their feelings. They think that through legislation, and Jesus, that they can "make themselves better".

That's just my uneducated take on it...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:13 PM
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12. Craig is HOPING no one with knowledge comes forward. If he can ride out the next few weeks, he can
finish his term.

In the case of Vitter, DiaperLady was on the record already. Diaper-Gate was a lot more "fun" too--though there are no visuals in either case, the imagination has MUCH MORE FUN with diapergate!!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 03:09 AM
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14. Pampering Craig

...just because he's boring. One of the accounts had Craig showing the police his US Senate card as though a Minneapolis police officer would care.

I think we've reached the "OJ Standard" - guilty but running around free to cause even more trouble.

:hi:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 08:11 AM
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16. Ironically, that 'handing the cop the business card' business could get him
in Ethics trouble. It all depends on what his GOP peers think "What do you think of that?" actually MEANS. I think it means "I could FUCK with your career, copper" myself. And he may have done it before.

From what I understand, they aren't happy with him, his peers. They'd as soon get him out of the seat, and a new, more reliable conservative shoved in it, if possible. They'd rather have someone who can settle in as an 'incumbent' rather than risk having a Blue Doggish Dem,who likes guns, farming, and family values, run and win.
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