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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 01:14 PM
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Why can't I find a criminal record for Charles Alfred Dreyling, Jr.? (Repuke Pipe Bomb Pilot)
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 01:30 PM by IanDB1
All I can find is some motion for Injunctive Relief against his daddy in 1994:
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/casesearch.asp?query=true&srch=0&web=true&db=all&icasetype=&iDATEL=&iDATEH=&iCLOSEDL=&iCLOSEDH=&number=&iLast=Dreyling&iFirst=Charles&iMiddle=&iID=&iDOBL=&iDOBH=&SearchType=0&iDCPT=&iDCType=0&iYear=&iNumber=&icitation=
http://www.odcr.com/results.php?Page=0&PHPSESSID=udaa4052ehjvptm6llnb1ulmb0

Am I missing something, or did his rich, Republican daddy pull some strings, to bury his record?


See:



Republican gets Oklahoma City airport bomb suspect out of jail
By Michael Hampton
Posted: August 22, 2005 3:54 pm
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<snip>

Former Oklahoma City mayor Kirk Humphreys, a Republican, helped Charles Alfred Dreyling, 24, get out of jail last week after he was arrested carrying a pipe bomb into Will Rogers World Airport.

Dreyling told authorities that he had made the device and said it was “basically a pipe bomb,” according to an affidavit. Dreyling said he built the device for entertainment value, never intending to hurt anyone, and forgot that it was in his carryon bag when he brought it to the airport, the affidavit said.

Dreyling said he learned as a teenager how to build homemade explosives from Web sites like “The Anarchist’s Cook Book.” Dreyling said he has built and detonated several explosive devices for recreational purposes, according to the affidavit. — Airport Business

Humphreys testified at Dreyling’s court hearing.

<snip>

Based in part on Humphreys’ testimony, Dreyling was released to the custody of his mother on $10,000 bail. If convicted, Dreyling faces up to 10 years in prison and up to a $250,000 fine.

More:
http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/08/22/republican-gets-oklahoma-city-airport-bomb-suspect-out-of-jail

Yes, that's right. Charles Alfred Dreyling, Jr. got out on bail, and went back to finish FLIGHT SCHOOL!




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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 01:17 PM
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1. If this occurred in 2005
it's awfully quick for the record to be expunged... without some heavy leaning from somewhere.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 03:03 PM
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2. AFAIK, criminal records are private. Unless you are in the courtroom
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 03:04 PM by kestrel91316
on the day of some activity, you'll never know someone was in court. There's no index to check........

I know, I know, they are technically public, but for all intents and purposes, good luck to any private citizen trying to find out if another person has any criminal record.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 03:38 PM
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3. Check out this classmate of Dreyling who posted in another thread...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 03:53 PM
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4. I found Timothy McVeigh's criminal record in their database. Why not Dreyling's?
County: Noble - County Last Updated: 08/28/2007 08:30
Case: CM-95-00059
STATE OF OKLAHOMA vs. MCVEIGH, TIMOTHY JAMES
Date Filed: 04/20/1995
Amount Owed: $0.00 (as of 08/28/2007 08:30)
Offenses

TRANSPORTING LOADED FIREARM/WEAPON IN M/V - MISD.
CARRYING CONCEALED WEAPON/FIREARM - MISD.
CARRYING WEAPON - MISD.
FAILURE TO PAY ALL TAXES DUE STATE - MISD.
NO SECURITY VERIFICATION FORM - MISDEMEANOR
Parties Defendant MCVEIGH, TIMOTHY JAMES
Agency OHP - PERRY OK
Judge ALLEN, DAN - PERRY OK
Officer HANGER - #134, CHARLIE - PERRY OK
DA GIBSON, MARK L. - PERRY OK

More:
http://www.odcr.com/detail.php?Case=052-CM%20%209500059&County=052-
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 04:05 PM
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5. Ok, it looks like the charges were filed in FEDERAL court...
By AP Wire Service
9/8/2005

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- Federal prosecutors have agreed to reduce the criminal charge against a college student who is accused of trying to bring a pipe bomb aboard an airplane last month.

Charles Alfred Dreyling Jr. originally faced as much as 10 years in prison after being charged in federal court in Oklahoma City with a felony count, but prosecutors replaced that charge Tuesday with a misdemeanor.

Dreyling, 24, intends to plead guilty to the new charge, which carries as much as a year in prison, defense attorney Kent Eldridge said.

<snip>

Interim U.S. Attorney John C. Richter said officials decided that it was fair to charge Dreyling with a misdemeanor count after reviewing the case.

More:
http://www.okyellowdog.com/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi/anyboard1/forum?cmd=get&cG=33536333&zu=33323636&v=2&gV=0&p=


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 04:16 PM
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6. Repuke Pipebomb Enthusiast and Commerical Pilot gets 2 years probation, $1,000 fine, Community Svc
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 04:24 PM by IanDB1
Here we go.

This can be accesed by anyone with a PACER account:

Federal District Court, Oklahoma
Case # 05-146-A
Charles Alfred Dreyling, Jr.
Case terminated 03/07/06
Charged with 49-46505-F, Attempting to carry an explosive device onto an airplane.
Sentenced to two years probation, 104 hours community service, and a $1,000 fine.

Federal District Court, Oklahoma
Case # 05-135-P
Charles Alfred Dreyling, Jr.
Case terminated 09/06/05 and merged with 05-146-A

Now, the next question is...

Is this man flying planes?


I don't have enough info to do a search here...

https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/

But holy crap, you can download their database???


Is it really a good idea to put a downloadable database of pilots online where it can be downloaded by anyone, for free?






Airmen Registration Database

We update these files monthly. The records in each database file are stored in either fixed length ASCII text format (TXT) or comma-delimited text format (CSV) which is already separated into airmen basic records and certificate records. Both formats can be manipulated by common database applications such as MS Access.

Note: This information does not include airmen certificate number data, nor does it include the records of those airmen who do not want their addresses released. You can also elect to Change the Releasability Status of your Address if you do not want it listed in the database.

Upload Date August 9, 2007
Next Upload Date September 10, 2007

Domestic Files Creation Dates August 4, 2007
Foreign Files Creation Dates August 4, 2007
Fixed Length Format
Database in Combined Fixed-Length Format
Documentation for Combined Fixed-Length Format

Comma Separated Format
Database in CSV Format
Documentation for CSV Format

http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/releasable_airmen_download/

Anyway, I'm going to check the database and see if Dreyling is in it.

If he's not in it, it just might mean that he's asked that it be withheld.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 04:18 PM
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7. because you're not looking in the right places?
Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 04:23 PM by onenote
You were looking in the state court records. His case was heard in federal court.

In addition to the PACER listing above, you could find information in the following links:

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/comsite5/bin/pdinventory.pl?pdlanding=1&referid=2930&purchase_type=ITM&item_id=0286-16663541

http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?S=3901204&nav=6uy6
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 04:24 PM
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8. Thanks! You rock! n/t
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