Curious, what law did craig break?

[still_one]

I was amazed to see CNN constantly playing this tape yesterday, while fox was reporting how more and more single women are finding men on the internet

So I have to ask myself these questions:

1. What about Iraq
2. What about spying on Americans
3. What about people losing their homes
4. What about Mexican truck drivers being allowed to cross the border to deliever goods without regard to security, or American jobs
5. What about healthcare


In other words, what about issues that will actually effect our lives?

[Pab Sungenis]

1. Solicitation of sex is a crime

as is sex in a public place.

[mdmc]

2. I don't agree with that law

I think you should be able to meet people and hook up.

[thoughtanarchist]

5. I don't think you should be able to meet people and hook up

in the public restroom where my 4 year old son is taking a dump.

Is that unreasonable?

[JuniperLea]

10. Thank you

Why are people missing this basic fact?

Solicitation of and actual sexual acts do not belong in public. It's my civil right NOT to be subjected to nasty crap, and it's certainly the right of every parent NOT to have their child subjected to the same.

Elementary. Sexual orientation has zero to do with it.

[thoughtanarchist]

14. I don't think there are many who miss it...

I think trolls see a golden opportunity to distract and misrepresent with this issue and they are having a field day on DU.

I am not accusing anyone, but how many posts do you need to see do arrive at the obvious conclusion?

[hlthe2b]

22. I agree

To suggest one's right to "hook up" outweighs all public rights of privacy or expectation that use of restrooms would be limited to their intended purpose, regardless of the law, is just incredible.

[yasmina27]

28. Exactly!

Restrooms were created for one purpose only - to relieve one's body of accumulated waste. Any other use is improper - forget immoral, b/c morality is in the eyes of the beholder. Why people are trying to relegate breast-feeding to public restrooms, a natural function of the female anatomy, is beyond me.

[ingac70]

18. Spot on!

The filthy behavior of the likes of Craig is why my mother made my brother go to the ladies room with her, or me and my sister, unitl he was twelve.
And that behavior is why I have a tiff with my nephew when we are out about demanding he go to the ladies room with me.

Really sick some folks feel their right to "hook up" is being infringed when folks just want to use the public crapper without assholes getting it on in the stall next to them!

[YOY]

21. Furthermore if said "hook up" happens between gay men

It really doesn't help those of us who have been trying to fight for gay rights against discrimination. Sorry, but no matter how anyone slices it, this kind of behavior is not cute.

People don't like their moment of zen in the potty broken by others who think it's just fine to have sex in a (really unsanitary) public place.

[NaturalHigh]

29. Wow, common sense. Thank you!

Why don't some people realize that this has nothing to do with Craig being gay (or bi or curious). It's about him soliciting sex in a public restroom! If he wants to get together with a hooker (of either sex) somewhere private or hook up with someone online or check out the personal ads, I don't care. If he is trying to solicit someone where there could easily be kids going in or out, that's a different story.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. Wow

You don't have the right to peak through a crack in a bathroom stall ,invade my privacy, check me and several other men out who have went into a bathroom stall and closed the door to take a shit or piss in an attempt to find one ready, willing, and able sexual partener...

Where does that right come from?

[H2O Man]

15. Distinct issue.

At the moment, it is illegal to attempt to "meet people and hook up" in public restrooms. No matter if one agrees or disagrees with the law, it involves conduct that can get one arrested.

[Karmageddon]

17. I don't either, just like I don't agree with a lot of laws. That doesn't hold up in court though

But Your Honor...
...I don't think that pot should be illegal
...I think the speed limit should be higher
...I don't see how prostitution is a crime
...Why is playing my stereo at top volume at 3 am a problem?
...I don't think I should have to wear clothes
...If I want to have sex with my wife (girlfriend/boyfriend/sheep/self) in the bleachers of Shea Stadium, why is that anyone's business but my own?

I know a woman who is an ex-cop - used to work prostitution stings. As soon as the john would pull up to the curb where she was standing and ask how much, the uniforms would swoop in and haul him away. Why is asking a question from the privacy of your own car any different than making the proposition in a public bathroom?

The simple matter is, this man is a Senator. Sworn to uphold the law, whether he agrees or not. He broke the law just as much as the guy who pulls up and offers money to the undercover-cop/hooker on the street.

His biggest crime, in my opinion, is stupidity. An airport? You think there might be a little bit of security, maybe a cop or two there?

[sharp_stick]

20. It's not just a hook-up

these guys go into one of the stalls together and have at it. It's not like they go to a motel or something after meeting. Most of them have to catch a flight in an hour or so.

[hlthe2b]

23. so by extension, mdmc...

Men should be able to come into the women's restroom? We don't want to infringe on their rights to "hook up," after all....:eyes:

[Ediacara]

3. At the very least, he was a Peeping Tom

I agree that there are a lot more important things to focus on besides Craig, but the media can never pass up a good old fashioned sex scandal. Especially a good old fashioned gay sex scandal.

Let's just hope that when Craig finally resigns, Idaho's guv doesn't appoint Bill Sali in his place.

[still_one]

8. I am not saying it shouldn't be covered, and I have very little sympathy for Craig

but the excess of trivia that the MSM here considers news is quite disappointing

[Warpy]

4. Being creeped out in a public restroom also affects our lives

There had been complaints about that particular restroom, which is why the cop was there.

Like it or not, soliciting sex from strangers in a public place is a crime.

[goodhue]

6. He was charged with violating Minn. Stat. Sec. 609.72, subd. 1(3) & Sec. 609.746, subd. 1(c).

He plead to the 609.72 violation.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. Disorderly conduct. Try reading the report.

"In other words, what about issues that will actually effect our lives?"

A republican senator is going down. That effects everything you mention in your post.

[still_one]

11. and who do you suppose will be appointed in his place?

will it be a more progressive person. I doubt it from Idaho

I would be very surprised if it changd anything that I mentioned in my post

My main point was the over-coverage of this, while the house is on fire

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. Do you know anything about Idaho politics?

Hopefully more than you know about crime and punishment.

[still_one]

24. I know nothing about Idaho politics, but believe they have their share of Militia groups

I also do know they ARE A RED STATE, with a repuke govenor

As far as crime and punishment, do you really think that this is the most important story today?

Did you believe that the Clinton affair with lewinsky was the most important story?

Because that is exactly how the media is treating this

That was my point

[Clark2008]

12. "A republican senator is going down."

Ain't that the truth in more ways than one... :rofl:

[WI_DEM]

13. Why don't they address these questions even when there isn't a sex scandal?

[H2O Man]

16. The issues you

raise in your post are separate from the question you asked in the "title" of the thread. The laws he was charged with breaking are easily found on the criminal complaint, posted in numerous places on the internet. Likewise, one can easily find the offense for which he entered a guilty plea.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. You Are So Literal My Friend

Peace

[still_one]

27. Yes, you are correct, but it sure isn't the most important story either

and the media is treating this like the Clinton/Lewinsky affair

Don't misunderstand me, craig is a puke in addition to being a hypocrite

[Cha]

26. Being a gawddamn

stupid hypocrite. That's not against the law? It should be.