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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:29 PM Original message |
If you meet a police officer, do you have to show ID if they ask? |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. Only if you are exiting walmart. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. only Walmart? I stay away from those. How about in a park? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. There Was A Supreme Court Case |
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hashibabba (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Yes, I've seen that before and have even seen it on *Cops* |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. I believe it was resolved to say -- yes, you do. Unfortunately, |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
58. is that if you are driving, or walking? |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. Legally, it may vary by locale. In reality, of course you do if you want to |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. Avoid doing so at your own peril. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. So if I take my dog for a walk I need to carry ID? Wild. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Depends On The Cop And Circumstances |
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shain from kane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. How do they know whether it's your dog, or you're someone's dog? Does the dog have to have an I.D, |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Only if it is a big headed dog (OMG!!!!1 pitbull!!!111) |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
79. No you don't. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. If |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. No idea about the law, but the cops on "Cops" sure seem to |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. Ask a real lawyer, preferably a criminal lawyer, about... |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. If I have it on me |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
12. You'll have to dig |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
13. Cops are assholes |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Some cops are, not all though. Walk away? Good luck with that. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Are You Serious? |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. I fought the law and I won |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. OK |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. bzzzzzzttttt |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Why is violence acceptable for refusing to talk to someone? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. I'm Not Turning My Back On A Man With A Gun Who Asks Me To Stop |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Are you saying you fear getting shot in the back? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. I fear them shooting or tasing me. Even if afterwards they say "oh, wrong thing", still am |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
66. Very bad advice, and a good way to go to jail. |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
14. Supposing you don't drive |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Because it is the law and if you don't you are impeding a law officer in their duty. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. All back to the war on drugs |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Before I got a driver's license I got a State ID card so I could write checks.Simple as that. |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
64. I got my driver's license at 19. Before that, I had a state-issued ID card. |
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justanaveragedude (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
22. I'm going to research it but.. |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
23. Nope |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Wrong, unfortunately. See post 28, below. n/t |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Bullshit |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
26. no, but it doesn't mean that you shouldn't just because you don't have to |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
28. Here's the Supreme Court case. You have to provide I.D. if asked. Scary. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. I just read the brief |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I don't understand that, because the charge |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Here's what I got |
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huskerlaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
51. Please read the whole case... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Not exactly. I don't think it's that cut and dry. |
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huskerlaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. True it hasn't been tested, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. What you should have said is that you don't have to show your I.D. IF |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
32. In Texas you do. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Interesting, because it wasn't listed as one of the states with such a law. |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. To be honest this was a few years ago |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
68. I see where the problem was |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
33. Found this on the Supreme Court Case and more from ACLU |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Key words in there |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. I agree with you |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
34. In some states you can be arrested as a vagrant if you can not produce a valid ID |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
38. In at least these 21 states, you do. . . |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
70. In Arkansas, you must identify who you are, but are not required to provide ID. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
43. HELL NO! You don't have to tell anyone a god dam thing about yourself, including your name |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. People in W.V. don't have to, but in 22 other states they do. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Don't attack me...but why wouldn't you? I mean, what is so bad about |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Maybe because you value your time and or privacy? |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
44. this was posted deep in my thread: |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
46. False premise |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. That's not actually true. |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
71. "he had been looking for alcohol and cigarettes..." |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. But this is what you said: |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
65. Wrong. They can stop you without a valid reason. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. I have met cops on Sunday afternoons while waiting to enter the library |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. And I was stopped on two different occasions |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. I call that DWP |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
50. I really don't have one |
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huskerlaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. No, you do not. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. I'm Complying And Will Report Him Or Her Later |
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huskerlaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. That's fine...that's your choice |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. American Skin |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
69. I guess it depends on what state law says. In Ohio and Arkansas, the legal answer is 'no'. |
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12string (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
74. showing your identification |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
76. If you are driving on a public road, yes |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
77. Never mind. |
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