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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 04:25 AM Original message |
Defense bigs ask '24' to cool it on torture |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'd be scared if military personnel throw out their military training for that of 24. |
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Laha (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 04:33 AM Response to Original message |
2. See this buck? |
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Merrill (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 04:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. image |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 04:57 AM Response to Original message |
4. Very good for them! (nt) |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
5. stop depicting what we're actually doing |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Now you've got it. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Same here - I don't want the bad vibes in my house. |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:32 AM Response to Original message |
6. I'm behind them |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. A lot of the civilian defenses of torture I've come across |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
7. "damaging the image of the U.S. around the world" |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
8. You go first, defense. Not much can top the Abu Ghraib pics we saw. |
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sugapablo (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
9. Nothing new... |
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habitual (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
10. blaming the show for interrogator's abuses is weak! |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Agreed. And if it's true, sure doesn't say much for their training. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. Indeed. They are saying an hour-a-week TV show has more influence over their troops than they do. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I assume interrogation is the intended skill, not torture. |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
11. So has 24 shown little boys being raped in front of their mothers? |
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Jonathan50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
13. From the New Yorker link you posted above |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
14. K&R |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
17. Are they that stupid that they don't instruct the recruits that 24 is not legal? |
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teryang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
18. So it's not John Yoo, AG Gonzales, Dick Cheney... |
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PerceptionManagement (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
20. I don't think the guys in Iraq get much prime time TV. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
43. They've gotten whole seasons on DVD |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
21. Wouldn't that just embolden the other networks? n/t |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
23. 24 is here to desensitize the public to torture and extreme force. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. It's a disgusting show - Interrogation is the "art" of gleaning intelligence |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. I think it's being used as an arm of DU |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. You're so right. It's ugly, and dirty. That hit me hard, too, the first time I saw it. |
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flashlighter (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
24. On 24, republicans are evil, while Dems are considered |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. The problem with 24 is that it makes torture seem acceptable. |
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flashlighter (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I disagree. It almost NEVER works on the show |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. Wrong on Jack not doing torture because of what Chinese |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. On the show, they present how the tortured get around |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. IMO, you are sadly mistaken. "24" is fantasy that lauds insane behaviors. n/t |
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flashlighter (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Have you watched the show? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. It would not be USED. That's the point. I don't know, how much have you consumed? n/t |
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flashlighter (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Clearly, torture is bad. And I'm going back to the longe with my |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Have a good evening. |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. You nailed it |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. "As a fan of the show" |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. To clarify: I'm not talking about that |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. The Leaders have a point ... |
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mikelewis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Excellent reply... |
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Jonathan50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
41. Repost since I got no replies ----- From the New Yorker link in the OP |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. kick |
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