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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 12:25 PM
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SHOUT-OUT to Code Pink at the Betrayus farce!!!!!!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 12:27 PM
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1. It's called freedom of speech, the old American way.
Good for them for calling bullshit bullshit.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 12:36 PM
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3. All over the Hill, getting arrested, kicking & screaming, in their pink uniforms :)
:toast:

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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:05 PM
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4. A kick for the "kicking & screaming" :)
:kick:

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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:58 PM
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95. Yes, they did us proud!!!!!!!!!!
Love you Code Pink!!!!!!!!!!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:29 AM
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123. Thumbs Up to Code Pink! K&R
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 12:34 PM
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2. AMEN! Rec'd!! nt
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:06 PM
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5. K&R!
:patriot: :toast:

Julie
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:06 PM
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6. Patraeus needed to be protested,
I'll K&R for Code Pink this time.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:07 PM
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7. I'll join you
Thank you to Code Pink, Adam Kokesh and others for expressing the outrage that I feel.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:08 PM
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8. I was just
on the phone with my wife. She could hear the tv in the background, and asked, "What is going on?" I said that it was a voice in the wilderness of Washington, DC.

I appreciate Code Pink's efforts!
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:11 PM
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9. Count me in!
:woohoo:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:12 PM
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10. Indeed. We need more civil disobedience, not less.
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 01:14 PM by TahitiNut
:applause: :applause:

May Dan Burton and Duncan Hunter be haunted in their dreams forever, the slimey cowards!
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:50 PM
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73. Its getting close to time for UNCivil Disobedience
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #73
80. it will take one more straw to break, and it will happen.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #10
77. More more more more more more more more more more more!
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:14 PM
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11. kick for code pink
Brave & courageous they are

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:20 PM
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12. I SUPPORT THE PROTESTORS!
Exercising their rights, for us. THANK YOU Code Pink.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:22 PM
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13. Proud to see DU support CP!!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Your pal Adam was shown the door early, as was
Cindy, per MSNBC.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. Damn
Thanks for letting me know. I am at work with no TV.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:23 PM
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15. Yes! "Screech for Peace" should be our new slogan! n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:24 PM
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17. You'd prefer "cluck like a chickenhawk?"
:rofl:
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:47 PM
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21. No I'm serious!
Whenever an Evil Republican like Betrayus tries to lie to the American people, we should stand up and screech as insanely loud as possible. Bonus points for crazy outfits.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #21
42. At first I didn't like the crazy outfits....
I thought the only reason our corporate owned media is showing these women are because these ladies come across as nuts to the conservatives out there.

... But I was wrong, these heroes have done what it takes to finally get some decent shown on the air.
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #42
105. These people in pink
AREN'T the scary nuts.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:29 AM
Response to Reply #105
110. Nope its the legions of cindy hating thugs whose dreck is
allowed to stand here that is truly scary.

Pretty smart, outsourcing the bashing of this "extremist" to thugs in our midst. Almost, KarlRovian circa 2002!
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #110
121. Yeah, well, the over-the-top condemnations of Cindy
only earned my ignore button. (not regular criticisms...just the personal ones)

Anyone who would disparage that woman with the worst possible terms has nothing to contribute to the community dialague anyways.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #21
58. ...
:thumbsup:
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:26 AM
Response to Reply #21
109. No, you are a clown
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 02:29 AM by Moochy
Them there code pinkos sure would be better if they dressed in power suits.

Write them an email and tell them to get some armani power suits right away and line up in the lobbyist blowjob queue.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:01 PM
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131. "you are a clown" GREAT IDEA!
Name calling is a great way to stick it to the Rethugs TOO!!!1! Hey BETRAYUS! You're a CLOWN!!!!!
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:20 PM
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134. Laugh it up fuzzball
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:26 PM
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18. add mine-
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wonder where we would be if this had been happening since day 1.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:28 PM
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19. Mine, too!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:44 PM
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20. A Kick (and a scream) for Code Pink n/t
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:49 PM
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22. Glad to join my voice!
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:53 PM
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23. K & R with the caveat that
Men fuck up everything they get their hands on. (Please remember: it was a MALE who told you this.)

:evilgrin:

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:02 PM
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24. Woot! Go Code Pink!!
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 03:21 PM by Breeze54
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/10/a-few-protesters-stand-on-the-hill/">A Few Protesters Stand on the Hill

September 10, 2007, 2:40 pm

By Suevon Lee


Capitol Hill police removed a member of Code Pink.
(Photo: Alex Wong/Getty Images)


Several members of the group Code Pink, the feminist anti-war group, were thrown out this afternoon from the House hearing after creating a noisy disturbance in the back of the room. They had stood in line early this morning outside the Cannon Caucus Room on Capitol Hill to hear the much-anticipated testimony from Gen. David H. Petraeus on progress in Iraq.

Clad in bright pink T-shirts and buttons bearing messages like “Troops Home Now” and “Women for Peace,” the group had lined up nearly three hours ahead of the hearing to grab one of approximately 20 seats reserved for the general public in the cavernous, austere meeting room.

“It’s a pivotal moment,” said Gael Murphy, the group’s co-founder and a 53-year-old Washington, D.C. resident. “We have been calling for the troops to come home ASAP.”

Fellow Code Pink member Liz Hourican, who traveled to Washington from Arizona, concurred. “This is the most important hearing of our lifetime,” she said. “Diplomacy over militarism. We don’t want a unilateral bully bombing the whole Middle East.”

The group, whose choice of pink as a signature color fellow member Rosalie Yelen describes as “an antithesis to the other colors of war-mongering”, has been calling for the complete withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

They are also planning a peace vigil beginning tomorrow afternoon near the grounds of the Capitol building.

Outside, on the steps of the Cannon House Office Building, one protester made clear his contempt ahead of the scheduled testimony. Wearing a Bush mask, fake devil horns and a red shirt and tights ensemble, David Barrows, a D.C.-based artist and writer, stood calmly waving from the steps. But the message on his shirt spoke volumes: “I’ve got Petraeus by the Soul,” it read. Several additional members of CodePink chanted “Time to Stop the War!” several feet away.

But some of those who stood in line inside, waiting in a roped-off section in the hallway, expressed surprise that more demonstrators did not show up.

Adam Kokesh, of the group Iraq Veterans Against the War and a former Marine Corps member who served in Iraq in 2004, said he hoped the top military commander in Iraq would “be honest” as he delivered his report before members of the House Armed Services and Foreign Affairs Committees.

“I have a sliver of hope that Petraeus will say something meaningful and unexpected,” said the 25-year-old DC resident, adding that “just being present” in the room would send a message to the general that individuals like him would be listening closely in the hours ahead.



:kick: & R for the :patriot: 'S

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:29 PM
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40. I just love that woman!! Her family will be very proud of her!!
...When I saw her strength, it gave me goose bumps!!

:kick: & R for the :patriot:'s


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:40 PM
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43. I'm appalled at how many men are trying to pull the older woman out!!
Does it really take that many men to grab an older woman's arm? :wtf:

I'm proud of her too! ;)
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #43
89. Yes the woman was strong, and it looks like a band-aid on her arm.
When I said her strength gave me goose bumps, I should have said her strength in character gave me goose bumps.

I always admire strength in character.

:)

Peace.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #43
127. Big, Brave, Honest, Determined
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 11:07 AM by Forrest Greene
...manly men, filled with spunk & vigor, & living lives of lawabidingness, too, by the look of 'em. Does my heart good.


(ET pluralize "men.")

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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #24
63. Look how they are grabbing her wrist and elbow as she screams
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 07:33 PM by superkia
That shit hurts, I had a friend of the local police show me how pressure points work and he grabbed me like that and the pain was so bad I was yelling ok ok as he would make me squat to the floor and then back up to standing, back and forth. I just went up and down like a puppet because it hurt so much. I cant imagine them doing that to someones mother or grandmother, thats disgusting!

Let me edit this before I get yelled at :

Thats what it looks like to me, I am no professional!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #63
69. It's absurd to treat an elderly woman that way!
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 07:02 PM by Breeze54
I agree with you, as I stated above!

And now they also broke the Rev. Yearwood's ANKLE!!! :grr:
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #24
74. Here's a comment about her from the NYTimes blog:
"Hey; are you sure it wasn’t Barney Frank in drag, the person in the picture looks a lot like him/her. He/she could use a little botox though."

— Posted by R.S.Newark

Here's my response:

"Wow, that’s some deep thinking on R.S. Newark’s part. Heaven forbid a woman should go out in public without being “botoxed.”

How do you feel about Fred Thompson, R.S.?"

— Posted by.....


Really! Don't these women understand that they have no right to be seen or heard unless they look like a young Angelia Jolie?!? :sarcasm:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #74
82. Good comment, Zookeeper! You know a rethug
made that comment! :( They're such assholes!!

I mean, looks are everything to them, just look at that beauty, Anne Coulter! :sarcasm:
:puke:
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:06 PM
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25. But but..I heard they made "us" look bad
You know...like anything could make the Democrats look worse than they already do. And they weren't dignified. THE HORROR. AND they wear PINK. Which as everyone knows is code for vagina. And that's so undignified!

SO are brown and black the respectable colors of penises and war?

UGH. Is there another planet I can go to? This one keeps doing the same stupid shit for thousands of years.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #25
125. If you do find that other planet
lets not invite the cindy hating assholes mmkay?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:07 PM
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26. K&R
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Mutineer Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:09 PM
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27. My only complaint was that I couldn't hear what they were screaming
:toast:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:11 PM
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28. Thumbs up
:thumbsup:

The whole thing is a farce. Keep up the protest Code Pink for you are the true Americans there today.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:13 PM
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29. Yes thank you for making war opponents look stupid! n/t
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. The War Opponents?,, like Congress and the Senate?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. no - like us. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:21 PM
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56. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. 
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #32
87. You and your right hand? Party of ONE! Calling byrant party of ONE!!!
Anybody see bryant party of ONE?!?!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #87
90. Laughs I'd wager I'm not the only person even at DU
Embarrased by the antics of Code Pink, in this particular case.

Bryant
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #90
94. You are probably right, Bryant. I understand how these actions
make people uncomfortable.

But, people are dying every day. Whatever it takes to get attention, to press the issue, to force people to think for an effen' minute, I'm behind that.

It's not dignified. It's not neat, or anything you might want to be seen with in public. But, neither is death, destruction, dismemberment, hunger or thirst.

peace
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #94
97. And I feel so reassured whenever
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 10:20 PM by truedelphi
C-Span has some lousy sum bitch Congress critter on a podium is extolling the virtues of this war, and then a quick snap of the Code Pink person is allowed to peek out at the camera

It reminds me that not everyone in this country has lost their minds
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #97
98. Do you remember the morning Brian was bitching because CP
figured out the camera angle and positioned a sign on the floor so it would be seen?

I love Medea. She is brilliant.

lol

:rofl:

:toast:
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:41 AM
Response to Reply #98
124. The Unmitigated Gall of CP !!!
How dare they embarrASS bryant69??

Their goal is making "us" look crazy!!!11111
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #124
135. My mom, who is somewhere to the left of Che
sort of agrees with Bryant. She's really protective of Democrats and after all these years of being out of power, I think I understand that.

But I still come down on the side of acting up. Whatever it takes. Funny hats and all. :shrug:
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #98
136. I would have LOVED to have seen that! And ya know how they stgger
The callers, first an Independent, then a Republican, then a Democrat.

I think if someone goofed and they had three Progressives all call and had their calls answered within the same ten minutes, Brian's little head would roll off his shoulders, bounce around the studio and then explode!
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #94
106. RIGHT ON thou art! n/t
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 07:32 AM
Response to Reply #94
114. I don't care about it being dignified
I don't care about it being neat.

I don't care about wanting to be seen with it in public.

I care about it's effectiveness.

I don't think that protest at that time was effective. And since I want to end that death destruction, dismemberment hunger and thirst, I have a problem with it.

Obviously other people have a different assessment than myself.

Bryant
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #114
126. Would Protest in Free Speech Zones where the
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 10:57 AM by Moochy
media doesnt cover them be the appropriate time and place?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:43 AM
Response to Reply #90
113. Your Embarrasment is possibly based on *your* projected shame
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 02:43 AM by Moochy
Identity politics is a bitch aint it?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #29
81. i fell so sorry they threaten your self image
not really-
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #29
102. Wow. At first I didn't believe you were serious about this.
Reading your subsequent responses, it's clear that you meant that exactly as you said it.

So, I'm wondering what does a "smart" war opponent do? Where is the line drawn when expressing their opposition? Are there accepted levels of opposition? Is open and utter disdain for this false war that is destroying our country like the curse of the monkey's paw, too much?

I’d like to see this occupation end sooner rather than later. How do we do that and avoid the risk of being perceived as stupid?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:34 AM
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112. Thanks bryant69
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 02:36 AM by Moochy
for making bryant69 look like a gutless coward.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:50 PM
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31. Proud to K&R
I suppose that protesting Der Furher is now a crime?
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:52 PM
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33. They are so awesome!!
God bless them all for the good work that they do. I wish I could have been there with them.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 03:56 PM
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34. Code Pink
:yourock:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:03 PM
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35. HERE HERE!!! Don't stop doin' what yer doin' CodePInk
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:05 PM
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36. Just think how a few have spoken for so many! Thanks Code Pink. nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:20 PM
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37. Thank you, Code Pink
:applause:
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:25 PM
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38. Rev Yearwood might have been injured by police
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:35 PM
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64. video here
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:28 PM
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39. Rep. Ike Skelton called Code Pink . . . "assholes" . . ..... ????
This is a report from a Common Dreams poster ---

QUOTE --
In case somebody isin`t aware yet, I was watching C-SPAN today with our democratic rep Ike Skeleton running the committee for the Iraq report, when some CODE PINK folks raised their voices in protest and he threw them out. I guess they forgot to turn their mikes off because Skelton says to Duncan Hunter they piss me off the assholes, what nice folks we got representing us, com-on folks everybody call the ASSHOLE representive Skelton UNQUOTE

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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:35 PM
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41. WHAT A POTTY MOUTH!
He was clearly flustered that Petreaus's mic didn't work along with the Code Pinkers, but did he not realize his OWN mic was on? Doofus Award.:crazy:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:42 PM
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44. HUNTER said the protestors ("all in the back, in that group") were assholes!
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 04:42 PM by Breeze54
Skelton said he didn't need to be lectured on how to deal with disruptions!

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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #44
96. he needs to be lectured on how to question an important witness for the nation!!
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #39
49. Note to self:
E-mail bomb Skeleton (hopefully, not related to "Red Skeleton") as follows:

:o "Hey, you kiss you MOTHER with that mouth?"

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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:58 PM
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88. He was referring to the REPUKES who were trying to tell him DISRESPECTFULLY what to do...
Not the protestors...
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freebrew Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:54 AM
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130. Skelton is an asshole..
He's also a DINO, told me in a letter that had he been there, he would have voted to give * and fredo the OK for their wiretapping shit bill. I couldn't believe it.
Here I thought that his name wasn't on the 'YES' list, good job and then came the letter, I was/am furious that he is my congressprick.
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:57 PM
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45. GO PINK LADIES!!
and gentlemen.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:05 PM
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46. Geaux Code Pink!
:kick:
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:20 PM
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47. Great! Harking back to WWII, in Holland...
... citizens who were *not* Jewish elected to wear a yellow star on their coats to show solidarity with the Jews who were required to do that by the Nazis. I'm putting a pink carnation on one lapel, and an orange one on the other!

Pink Cyberflowers at the feet of the brave Code Pink organization!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:41 PM
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48. Can someone catch us up? What happened?
n/t
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:48 PM
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50. Hunter called the protestors assholes, while he was still on the air.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:26 PM
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71. Thanks Breeze. Is there a link by chance?
n/t
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #71
76. Watch it on C-Span 3...it's near the beginning...
and C-Span 3 is or was rerunning it tonight. ;)
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:49 PM
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51. you've got to put your bodies upon the gears
you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers

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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 02:32 AM
Response to Reply #51
111. Cindy haters can go Cheney themselves!
as always seemslikeadream... you cut to the chase! :kick:
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:56 PM
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52. add me to that shout out.
:hi:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:01 PM
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53. GO PINK LADIES!
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:02 PM
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54. Even though a Democrat run 'thing,'
I knew from the first plaintive yell that it had to be Code Pink. Either that or Saddam would not stay dead!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:15 PM
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55. My friend Liz the last one to go! Her last words: BRING HOME THE TROOPS!
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 06:15 PM by lonestarnot
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:08 PM
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93. When she gets out, give her a hug from a SF CPer
:hug:
:grouphug:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:51 AM
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119. I don't know when I am going to see her again, but I will do that!
:hug: :grouphug:
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:22 PM
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57. Maxine Waters
After one hearing, I saw Representative Maxine Waters take a photo with a group of Code Pinkers. Later, Waters told me: "I really appreciate the work that they're doing on this war in Iraq...They may get on some people's nerves, but they don't get on my nerves. As a matter of fact, I rather like them."

cbs news
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:27 PM
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59. I 'm sure that this won't come as a shock to anyone...
but outside of the internet tubes, a lot of mainstream Democrats think Code Pink is an embarrassment.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:36 PM
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86. And a lot of mainstream Democrats support the damn war
and/or refuse to do anything to stop it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:07 PM
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92. They will right up to the moment their kid is drafted.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:30 PM
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60. BRAVO TO CODE PINK.....
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:32 PM
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61. Thank you CodePink for doing what needs to be done.
I'm so proud of CodePink, and organizations like MoveOn. They speak for me 100%.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:34 PM
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62. K & R n/t
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stimbox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:41 PM
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65. Yay!
Code Pink speaks for me.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:57 PM
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66. Kudos to Code Pink!
K&R
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 06:58 PM
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67. Yay, Code Pink!
K and R
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:02 PM
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68. Thank-you Code Pink!!!!!! 3 Cheers from Chico!! nt
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:20 PM
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70. The full video - Mario Savio
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 07:20 PM by ProudDad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcx9BJRadfw




"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part, you can't even passively take part, and you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop! And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!"

IS IT TIME YET, PEOPLE???
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:49 PM
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72. Go Code Pink! Tell it like it is!!!!
And the obsessive/compulsive part of me loves that you made your smilie lines even (drives me crazy when people don't)!! :)
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:58 PM
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75. Hey CodePink, you rock! And so does Cindy!
You go girls!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:01 PM
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78. thank you code pink
you should have seen Petreaus face when you called him a liar, you hit a nerve!!!!! Keep it up!!!! we support you.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:02 PM
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79. LIZ YOU ROCK!
:yourock:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:18 PM
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83. Hooray for people with the guts to speak out against abusive power!!
:applause:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:21 PM
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84. Also Proud To K & R !!!
:applause::kick::applause:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:24 PM
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85. I was watching and they were magnificent!
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 08:28 PM by vickiss
:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:05 PM
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91. Error. You've already recommended this thread.
:kick:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:34 PM
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99. Recommended for Code Pink.
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Xatencio81 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 10:47 PM
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100. Let's be honest though
Is it really necessary to scream and protest the commander of our armed forces in Iraq? Such disrespect does not bode well at all. I mean why bother even showing up if you're not even going to listen to what the man has to say? If you already assume that what he will say is a lie - as most of the Democrats in Congress do - why bother even bringing him in?
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peacetheonlyway Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 11:47 PM
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101. I beg to differ
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 11:47 PM by peacetheonlyway
these asshole General's and military puppets disrespect the rule of law, the geneva conventions, torture randomly, they are the exact same menace to society that the nazi's are.

overall I thought Code pink was very civil. they were perfectly within their rights to scream/shout their truth at the top of their lungs.

this administration is so crooked you have to shout to get thru all the bullshit talking.

every single word out of patreaus' mouth was falsehood. I for one think they were VERY effective because they disrupted the meeting for a good amount of time and let me hear the words they were saying which was simply 'bring our troops home'.

that my dear is called being a courageous american. no more time for civil that time is past, we must be civilly disobedient as Ghandi and martin luther king announced and the more peacefully rowdy the better....
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Xatencio81 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:57 AM
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107. What makes Petraeus an "asshole general?"
While it is true that it is perfectly within someone's right to protest, scream, and act loony, there is a time and a place for it. The briefing was a time to hear the general's side of things and his opinion and to allow Congress to question him. Why would you pick a time like that to disrespect one of our officers who, might I add, was unanimously confirmed by the Senate?

And what evidence do you have to suggest that General Petraeus has ever broken the law, authorized torture, and, in general, been an asshole?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:53 AM
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120. He's proven he's a political tool of this admin.:
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Xatencio81 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:41 AM
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129. Well you may have something there then...
The dates in the link you provided say he claimed a "reasonable degree of certainty" that the trailers were WMD labs. He said that on May 13th before it came out on the 26th that the trailers had no connection to WMD. Now if you want to argue he's a Bush crony for not coming out after the fact to clarify it then you have a point. I wouldn't expect him though to hold another press conference just to say his original "degree of certainty" was wrong though.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:56 AM
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122. respect is earned, not given based on titles
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:22 AM
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103. K & R
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 12:29 AM
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104. ....
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:14 AM
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108. k&r!
:applause:
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:12 AM
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115. Code Pink has been in every protest/rally I have attended.
They have earned my respect.

k&r
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:14 AM
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116. I respect those who put themselves on the line to protest. They fly in the face
of "second guessers"

It was the people who took to the streets that helped to end the Viet Nam war.

Politicians are not brave on their own.... they need the people to show them the way.

We either join the Cindy's and Pink's of this world, or not.

What better idea do you have??? And has it worked?

The protests will work, when more of us join them.

I suggest we take to the streets on a Wednesday, stop traffic, stop business, stop people from avoiding the war.


Or should we just continue to hide?


:hide:
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:16 AM
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117. Have I mentioned lately how much I admire those people?!!
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 08:20 AM by BrklynLib at work
:yourock:
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:41 AM
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118. yes indeed
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:26 AM
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128. yay;
So I'm soft spoken :hippie:
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:03 PM
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132. These code-pinkers are our REAL representatives. The fake ones are sitting at the dais,
mute, while Betrayus spews one absurd lie after another.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 01:06 PM
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133. Kick.
:thumbsup:
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