Six to nine Senate seats we could win

[Perky]

NH Shaheen over Sununu
VA Warner over Gilmore/Davis
NE Kerrey over Open
MN Franken over Coleman
NM Richardon over Domenici
TN Bredesen over Alexander
OR Merkley over Smith
CO Udall over Open
ME Allen over Collins


The only vunerable Dem is Mary Landrieux


That all changes if Clinton gets the nomination. Might even kiss the Senate goodbye.

[Buzz Clik]

1. Oh. Is it November 2008 already? Shit! I need to go vote.

[TwilightGardener]

2. Nebraska will be hotly contested--don't expect it to go blue.

Mike Johanns will run in the R primary--he's about as big a hitter in NE as Kerrey.

[Mabus]

3. Kansas will have an open senate seat (Brownback not running)

And in 2004 we ousted a 5-time GOP incumbent with a Dem (a disappointing Dem). The state GOP party has imploded. They had elections earlier this year and went even farther to the right. If we get a reasonable candidate, I think we might be able to get a Democratic senator from Kansas.

[Perky]

5. I thought it was Roberts Seat that was up in 2008.

[Mabus]

7. and you would be right

How embarrassing. You're right.

[ThomWV]

4. I intend to contribute to Franken and Shaheen

I think they will be the best out-of-state bets for getting the most bang for my limited bucks. My Presidential money is being held in reserve for Al Gore.

[Johonny]

6. I'd love a clear majority in the senate

So the party can dump the loser Lieberman out of committee chair.

[Nite Owl]

8. Kerrey (NE)

may not be a dem we want. It could give us numbers but he may not vote with us all that much, especially on the war. This article is aver two years old but haven't seen anything that he has changed. Hope he has.


http://thevillager.com/vil_94/kerreypraises.html


Bob Kerrey, president of New School University, called the Iraqi election a major milestone in the move toward democracy in the Middle East. The former Nebraska senator and governor offered that viewpoint after speaking at the recent Dorothy Gardner Adler Lecture, sponsored by the Simon Wiesenthal Center at the Bronfman Center for Jewish Life at the 92nd Street Y.
Speaking after addressing the topic, “The State of Anti-Semitism, Crises and Challenges,” Kerrey, a strong supporter of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, noting that while there were more than 34 dead during the election, nevertheless called Iraqi election day on Jan. 30 “a wonderful day we are celebrating.”
While the Bush administration is touting the election results as part of its initiative to move other countries in the Middle East toward democracy, Kerrey did not appear optimistic about the prospect of Saudi Arabia ever joining the democratic community. “Saudi Arabia will cease to exist as a nation state before democracy comes in,” he said flatly.
Kerrey continues to back the initial effort of seeking to overthrow Saddam Hussein, but is critical of the Bush administration’s efforts after that result. Asked how a pro-war advocate could survive in a university that is so antiwar, Kerrey acknowledged there were strains among the students and faculty regarding his views in support of toppling of Saddam. But he maintained that despite the deeply-felt disagreement on the Greenwich Village campus, “I think they did it respectfully. The students and the faculty had a very good open debate about it. I never felt any disrespectful challenges.”
Despite the Iraqi elections returns and the cry of some Democrats, like Senator Ted Kennedy, for an exit strategy, now is not the time to cut and run, Kerrey said. While 1,400 dead U.S. soldiers “is a big deal,” the former senator said, before the U.S. leaves, the Iraqis must be ready to provide their own security. “Every single U.S. serviceman would be back today if opponents to democracy weren’t killing Iraqis and trying to kill Americans,” he noted.

[paulk]

10. getting any kind of Democrat out of Nebraska

is a bonus....

[KellyW]

11. Ben Nelson D-Neb

They are not as rare as many people think.

[paulk]

13. the point is that we're not going to get the kind of Democrat

the person I responded to wants. Nelson is a perfect example of this.

[cali]

14. Kerrey voted against DOMA

against Clinton's welfare reform, has a very strong enviornmental record, is strongly pro-choice. You think you'll get a better dem out of Nebraska? Think again.

[TwilightGardener]

17. I've said this before, but as a Nebraskan, I'm just hoping that by the

time Kerrey gets elected, Iraq's direction will pretty much be set and his vote won't matter. But then there's Iran...sigh.

[book_worm]

9. Oh come on--if Clinton gets the nomination we wouldn't lose the senate

heck she's beating all of the Republicans head to head and is ahead in states like Arkansas and Kentucky. I'm not a supporter, but lets be objective here. Heck, I think in '72 McGovern lost 49 states and dems picked up two senate seats.

Other than that I agree with you. '08 looks good for the Senate.

[Perky]

21. WIthe the exception of Oregon and Minnestota the rest are either

red states or swing states.


States that Hillary would not win and would surely be villigied by the right in solely as a means of rallying the the state base gotr the GOP Senate Candidate.

MOre than any other Dem candidate she woul like have the shortest coattails. and while we might pick up those two states we would have less of a chance to pick up the others and we might well lose the Dem seat in Louisiana,

[javadu]

23. I Do NOT Support Clinton

She is third on my list. But now --- after reading your post --- I am pissing down my leg and quaking in my boots!!!!! I am ssooooo SCARED!!!

Perky -- you need to have a little courage -- don't dismiss the redstaters -- and grow a backbone!!

Moreover -- I know as much as anyone about political science, evidence, polling, and evidence-based strategies for success. And the evidence shows me that the dems, can win in any state regardless of the nominee (except maybe Utah, but I would not even write off Utah).

[Perky]

24. I am simply saying that....

there are more risk factors to gaining greater conrol of the Senate with Hillary at the head of the ticket than either Edwards or Obama.

[Dawgs]

32. You are correct. It's too bad many don't see it this way.

[Dawgs]

33. self-deleted... posted twice.

[Bitwit1234]

12. SO? what's the big deal nothing will happen.

this congress shows they won't fight. The may not have a majority to over ride some of the obstruction of bills etc. but they sure as heck should show some gumption and make the republicans look like what the are a bunch of

PARISIAN OBSTRUCTIONIST. They didn't hesitated to call the dems that when they didn't cave in to them. They showed more spunk when they were in the minority.

[cali]

15. History indicates that you're wrong

A Senate or House with strong majorities has a much better chance of getting things done.

[KamaAina]

16. How exactly does that change if Clinton gets the nomination?

She's not even my primary candidate. I just don't quite get how she'd be this Goldwater-like millstone around every other Dem's neck.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Me Neither

I think the Dems picked up two seats in the 72 McGovern debacle...

That being said, this presidential election is our's to lose...

[Perky]

22. Look at the states in play... see post #21

[SoCalDem]

26. Perhaps it's because the only thing a repube loves MORE than voting FOR

their pet candidate, is voting AGAINST a dem..especially a Clinton.

There is one school of thought that says, they have a weak slate of candidates, and unless a Clinton is the candidate, some of the repubes..maybe many of them will just get frustrated and stay home..

these are single issue candidates, and if they cannot get a candidate that espouses ALL the issues, groups may peel off and just not vote..

regardless of the thinking, our media will not allow this or any sleection to be a stealth election.. They will drum up as much animosity they can muster, against any and all candidates..

[Dawgs]

34. Right. Just think of Giuliani getting the nomination.

Many pro-life Republicans would be okay just staying home and not voting; unless they have a reason to go out and vote. And, a good reason for them would be to vote against Hillary.

[Netbeavis]

18. Gov. Spitzer of NY is a democrat so Hillary's seat will remain blue

at least until the next election. I think she just got re-elected in 2006, so that seat could stay with the appinted democrat until 2012.

[alfredo]

19. don't forget McConnell in Kentucky. We are trending blue.

[MonkeyFunk]

25. Bill Richardson in N.M.?

He's not running for the Senate... wouldnt he have to run in the primary, for which he's already running for President?

[B Calm]

27. That is not enough! We need at least 60 seats!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. "That all changes if Clinton gets the nomination. Might even kiss the Senate goodbye."

Hmmmm

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm

[Dawgs]

35. What's your point?

More Republicans will get out to vote against Hillary, which could hurt our chances in Congress. Do you disagree with that?

[Vinca]

29. How about anyone who keeps his pants on over Craig? nt

[Thothmes]

30. Warner in Virginia

I would disagree on your assessment of what happens if Senator Clinton as the Dem nomination. Warner is well respected in Virginia, he was one of the best governors in many years. I believe that he would be elected to the Senate regardless of the Dem Presidential candidate.

[Perky]

37. it would likely depend on the GOP nominee

It it was Tom Davis it would not matter one way other othe other if Clinton is the nominee.

If it is Jim Gilmore.. He would get a huge bump in the SOuther part of the state if Hillary led the ticke whereas Warner would loklely no signifcant coatrail effect.

WHereas with an Obama at the top of the ticket would be met with much entusiasm in the north and I suspect ambivalence in the south part of the state, Im that scenario, Warner gets the bump in the north and coasts to an easy win against either Gilmere or Davis.

[MiniMe]

39. Warner is very popular in Virginia

I think he left office as Governor with something like a 70% approval rating. He very well could win the Senate race. Having the same name as his predecessor probably doesn't hurt either, some of the people in the southern regions may think they are voting for John Warner again.

[Dawgs]

31. Exactly. These are the consequences if we take a risk with Hillary.

I've been thinking this for awhile now.

[Perky]

36. The AMerican people in their "infinite wisdom"

have tepratedly shown their tendency to value divided gobernment og the last qiarte century. Hillary give them them all the cause they need to repeatd the tendendcency

[Clark2008]

38. Is Bredesen running?

I live in Tennessee and hadn't heard that. Or is that just speculation?