If you would call Rush Limbaugh's advertisers to get them to stop advertising on his show

[liberaldemocrat7]

If you would call Rush Limbaugh's advertisers to get them to stop advertising on his show and threaten to boycott their products until they stop advertising,

Would you call Rush Limbaugh's advertisers and demand they get Bush to end the war and then resign with Cheney?

[bryant69]

1. Well calling and trying to get Rush Limbaugh off the air is free-lance censorship

so I wouldn't do that anyway. But that second idea - if they had the power to force Bush to resign, well, I'd be all for it. But I suspect the Life Lock people and the Sleep Number Bed people lack that power.

Bryant
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[ProfessorGAC]

2. I Question Your Definition Of Censorship

Boycotts as a grass root approach to regulating fairness in commerce is not the equivalent of gov't enforced censorship.

Things are edited/censored all the time in real life, including self-censoring. The resistance to censorship should be directed, imo, strictly toward the governments in this country.
The Professor

[bryant69]

3. I think we've gone over this before

I am opposed to freelance censorship the same way I am opposed towards governmental censorship. For the same reasons.

Bryant

[ProfessorGAC]

8. You Are Validating My Point

Your definition of censorship is not consistent with the true meaning. You're rationalizing your opinion by changing the definition of thw woed.

That's too convenient by half.
The Professor

[bryant69]

11. Censorhip

The Act or process of censoring (according to Dictionary.com --> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Censorship

Censor --> to examine (as a publication or film) in order to suppress or delete any contents considered objectionable, subject to political, religious, or moral censorship;

Granted many of the definitions do imply governmental oversight but not all do; in part because for most of our history only the government or king has had the power to censor. However with the second red scare (i.e McCarthyism), we see that censorship need not be imposed by the government to be effective. And I oppose all forms of censorship.

Bryant

[ProfessorGAC]

12. Fair Enough

We'll agree to disagree.
The Professor

[sendero]

5. You are..

... completely off base with the "censorship" crap.

You clearly don't understand the meaning of the word, nor do you apparently understand the "free markets" the pukes are constantly on about.

[bryant69]

6. You are using market forces to silence an opinion you don't agree with

I think that's not in harmony with the spirit of the first amendment. The measure of your commitment to freedom of speech is not standing up for speech you agree with, but standing up for speech you disagree with, speech you find hateful.

Bryant

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[EV_Ares]

4. Could someone tell me, does Limbaugh really make that much difference

anyway? I can't stand to listen to him so I don't stay tuned that long. It may be just changing stations & catch a bit from one of his not too bright rabid, avid, gungho RW ditto listener. It seems to me, yes, his listeners are rabid & loyal. Those people would not change their vote or loyalty to Limbaugh if Jesus Christ asked them to. It seems to me his influence pretty much is with a group that is already in his camp anyway, it doesn't spread outside of that camp. So I have never seen him as much of a concern.

Take our favorite, (Keith), his listeners go outside of just our circle, he is mainstream, so he can make converts. Do you think Limbaugh gets many converts?

What do you think?

[ProfessorGAC]

9. A Mixed Bag

Yes, only about 2 million people listen to him every day. However, the media looks at ratings at since he's #1, he's treated as having more meaning and impact than he really does.

There are 2 million people who like him, 10 million people who hate him, 100 million people who couldn't care less, and 200 million people that say "Ruah Who?"

The primary issue is how media treats his celebrity even though he is not really having an impact on that many people.
The Professor

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Ding, Ding, Ding..

We have a winner...

Limbaugh is successful because there's a group of people who want their own views shouted back at them ; all the boycotts nothwithstanding...

[Wiregrass Willie]

13. A convert to Rush is as rare as rocking horse shit.

And nobody knows that better than Limbaugh. Rush understands that there is a lot of money to be made in reinforcing the beliefs already held by certain people in Red Nation.

However, what Rush does well is in motivating his ditto (dildo?) heads to show up at the polls. It doesn't matter how much booze or dope they had the night before, when Rush sounds the alarm -- they are up -- and off to the voting booth.

[liberaldemocrat7]

14. I still find it amazing how people here will call in like droves to complain about ABC's Path to 911

but won't lift a finger to hold GOP contributors accountable for the lack of progressive legislation for the last 12 years.

I find that just as negative as what repukes do, they go after the symbolism but when it comes to real material issues like unemployment insurance, minimum wage, the junk prescription drug benefit, lack of paper ballot laws, and this iraq war for oil

DUers won't lift a finger and hold companies like GE, Exxon/Mobil, Wendy's, Outback Steakhouse, Dominos Pizza acountable for enabling this God forsaken Republican revolution for the last 27 f ing years.


If you won't boycott, I'm sorry to say, then your omisssion of action helps the Republican party repeat their sociopathic laws and actions again and again.

You don't like what I have to say, ok but tough Sh*T I will say it anyway.