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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:03 AM
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All of the lawmakers said they do not intend to comply with the subpoenas. Hmmmf.
13 lawmakers subpoenaed in bribery trial

By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer




WASHINGTON - Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert, House Republican Whip Roy Blunt and 11 other members of Congress have been subpoenaed to testify in the trial of a defense contractor charged with bribing jailed former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham.


All of the lawmakers said they do not intend to comply with the subpoenas.

The subpoenas were sought by attorneys for contractor Brent Wilkes, who faces a trial in San Diego later this year on more than 30 counts of bribery, fraud, money laundering and conspiracy in connection with his relationship with Cunningham.


Guess next time I am subpoenaed I just won't go either. hmmmmf.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:07 AM
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1. BREAKING NEWS......Subpoenas no longer enforceable!
In a move that is likely to change the face of American jurisprudence, several congressmen today have stated that subpoenas against them are not enforceable. Big changes lie ahead! You can now give a judge a raspberry and just walk out! Extraordinary!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:09 AM
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3. Wow! A rapsberry! What if they prefer apples?
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:11 AM
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5. Felons, Rejoice!! People should start doing this all over the country, refusing to appear
even though they've been subpoenaed by the court. Hey - good enough for Harriet Miers
and Condoleezza Rice, good enough for Joe Shmoe.

Really - why not?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:58 AM
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22. My point zactly.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:09 AM
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2. Since when did compliance to a cort order become optional?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:11 AM
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4. Courts have been outlawed by the Unitary Executive! Haven't you heard?
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:12 AM
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6. Uhh - since Bush was in office? n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:14 AM
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7. Yeah that would be the one, Unitary Executive.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:57 AM
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19. Don't you mean the "Urinary Executive"?
So named because he ain't worth piss?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:59 AM
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23. Unitary urinary.
Not worth one piss! :rofl: :toast:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 01:03 PM
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28. Sorry - that title's already been taken by Larry Craig. n/t
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Wesman 85 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:16 AM
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8. some of these fine
elected reps are ours as well.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:20 AM
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9. Well, then they're just as despicable. n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:38 AM
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10. donkey holes.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:49 AM
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11. Your point being? n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:00 PM
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24. That dems are getting on the bandwagon with this no show shit too.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:24 PM
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27. Which I find just as despicable
as repugs ignoring subpoenas.

This 'no show shit' is setting a terrible precedence.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:15 PM
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29. So what's next anarchy, every man for himself in lawless pugland?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:55 PM
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31. I'm sorry... what's setting the bad precedent
is the refusal of those who should be- indeed, MUST be- enforcing these subpoenas to do their jobs and throw the refusers in jail.

It is what would happen to you, or me, or members of Kos, or Free Republic, or Huffington Post, or Little Green Footballs. ANY of us, from any of those sites, when refusing a subpoena, would be jailed.

:wtf: :wow: :wtf:
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:52 AM
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12. This is astonishing...
...and I say that even in light of all the Administration's refusals. That's because, at least the Executive branch can wrap it in some thin fig leaf of executive privilege -- even if that is debatable in most cases -- whereas, this is a straight criminal case and there is no constitutional issue at stake, even theoretically.

Now, if they did show up, I'm guessing more than a few of them might have to take advantage of the good ol' Fifth. But simply saying "I decline to appear" is just amazing.

If they are not compelled to testify then, we are no longer a nation of laws. Period. And if that happens, a lot more people are going to figure that out. I agree with other posters -- this means the rest of us can say "Thanks, but no thanks" should we receive a subpoena for any reason.

And how much play is this getting in the media??? Probably shouldn't even ask.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:56 AM
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14. "Fif"
They don't have time for dat.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:55 AM
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13. ON a side note........
what ever became of the investigation where Cunningham was wearing a wire for weeks before he was indicted? I've not heard anything. Did it reveal anything new? :shrug:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:57 AM
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17. I don't know. Too many atrocities, to many glaring piles of bullshit to keep up.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:56 AM
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15. is it time for a military coup?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:57 AM
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18. Military chicken coupe.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:56 AM
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16. laws don't apply to repukes
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:58 AM
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20. or apparently dems either.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:01 PM
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26. enforcing laws is not the "democrats'" job
they have a "real agenda" to pursue (although I'm damned if I can tell what it is)
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 11:58 AM
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21. I hope that means that we the people need not follow the law either.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:00 PM
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25. What is a law? " Lawmakers" don't need to be bothered. Why should we?
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simmonsj811 Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:48 PM
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30. MY GIFT
TO THE NIGHT SHIFT :kick:
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