What ever happened to "The Nuclear Option"

[ossman]

Why is it only the whining, bitching Repugs threaten to use it?


I think Reid really does have the spine of an overcooked linguine.


Pathetic

[bemildred]

1. Like all bullshit, it is forgotten when its job is done. nt

[cali]

2. The repukes threatened the

nuclear option over judicial votes. In any case getting rid of cloture is a really piss poor idea. It should be obvious as to why.

[Tesha]

18. It would take away the Democrat's principal excuse?

> In any case getting rid of cloture is a really
> piss poor idea. It should be obvious as to why.

It would take away the Democrat's principal excuse
as to why they can't do anything of any substance?

Tesha

[bemildred]

3. And what ever happened to the gang of 14?

I mean, its getting to be a long list ...

[cali]

5. Aren't many of them retiring?

Some have been voted out. Their numbers are dwindling.

[ossman]

Dems afraid to fillibuster before 2006

and be labeled "obstructionists"

Repugs use it daily.... and what happens????

The entire CONGRESS is labeled ineffective!


For fucks sake.

[cali]

6. You're wrong.

Dems did filibuster before 2006.

[ossman]

7. What was it?

[cali]

9. They filibustered legislation

many times when they were in the minority. They also filibustered judicial noms. Miguel Estrada ring any bells? I hate these rumors. They become gospel on DU, and they're just bullshit.

From People for the American Way:
http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=8146

Please take a moment to write and mail letters to two of the 45 senators who voted to filibuster Estrada's nomination (see list below). Write to your own senators if they supported the filibuster, or write to senators from another state if yours supported Estrada and President Bush's court-packing plan.

[ossman]

10. What did the Dems fillibuster before 2006?

Wow. An unknown judge.

[cali]

12. read my post.

They filibustered the judicial nomination of Estrada. They filibustered legislation. Just google. I gave you a link for the Estrada filibuster.

[ossman]

14. It must be pretty important legislation if you have to google and search for it.

What courage. I didn't want Eric Estrada to be a judge either.

[Tesha]

19. Alito. Roberts. 'Nuf said. (NT)

[cali]

15. Unknown? LOL!

You're just ignorant. Sorry, if you don't know about the Estrada battle, you really don't know much about the topic you're trying to discuss. And you're clearly not interested in learning. You prefer to hang on to your erroneous pre-conceived biases.

[ossman]

17. Oh the famous Estrada battle! What an apologist.

[brentspeak]

22. Your words: "Dems afraid to fillibuster before 2006"

But then someone pointed out how wrong you were. Now you're scrambling to backpedal.

[cali]

23. You don't have a fucking clue as to what you're talking

about. Ignorance, son, is nothing to be proud of.

[bobbolink]

11. I think you could have stopped at the first two words.... "Dems afraid"

[cali]

13. Ah, the dissemination of false information.

They certainly did filibuster. They filibustered legislation and judges.

[bobbolink]

~~chortle~~ They're clearly afraid of something.

Most likely their corporate bosses.

[ossman]

16. Name the legislation that they so bravely stopped?

Spying? Torture? War funding? Etc???

[Tesha]

20. They stopped the Brave Sir Robin Act of 2005! Yes they did! Bravely! (NT)

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[thereismore]

4. because it only works when you have the VP on your side, that's why. nt

[NYVet]

8. I have always been a coal and natural gas man myself.

Oh, THAT nuclear option.


You tell me and we will both know.

[BlooInBloo]

21. It's also worth noting, as the big bloggers have, that the MSM only CALLS it a "filibuster"...

... when it's Democrats doing it. The last jillion or so republican minority filibusters are called things like "procedural maneuvers" and what-not. Once again, IOKIYAR.

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. And the news reports are "The SENATE blocks the Webb Amend." & "The SENATE blocks renewal of Habeas

Corpus." Those headlines SHOULD read..."The REPUBLICANS block the Webb Amendment" and "The REPUBLICANS block renewal of Habeas Corpus."

The MSM propaganda networks are NOT on our side. They've made that perfectly clear.

[Eric J in MN]

27. I agree completely. That is a ridiculous way for them to write

the headlines. The Senate didn't block these bill. The Republicans in the Senate blocked these bills.

[tritsofme]

26. The "nuclear option" was limited in scope and wouldn't do anything to help us at present

It only would have removed the filibuster as a tool to defeat judicial nominations, not legislation.

With a Republican President, the Democratic majority has no need for the "nuclear option" as envisioned by Republicans in the 109th Congress.