Poll: Does ANYONE here want war with Iran? Seriously.

[Warren DeMontague]

Really. I don't think anyone does. If so, it's a real small minority, and they snuck in the back.

I sure as hell don't. I think it would be an even worse idea than war with Iraq, and that was an exceptionally bad idea.

[Warren DeMontague]

1. Kick.

:kick:

[mmonk]

2. No but I'm not sure it's up to us.

Our government does as it damn well pleases.

[Warren DeMontague]

3. I agree. But if it's not up to us we should be able to speak honestly about Ahmadinejad

and not be told we're somehow "drinking the kool-aid" and "pimping for war".

[mmonk]

True.

Some decide not to dwell on it though because some in government are currently "pimping".

[Warren DeMontague]

12. It is nice to see, however, that my hypothesis about DU is true.

Pretty much no one (okay, one joker, so far) thinks war with Iran would be a good idea.

[mmonk]

14. I agree. Your hypothesis is holding up (unless some become smart alecks).

[onethatcares]

4. I, myself and me only don't want war with anybody

Why do we have to stick our noses into every countries' business as if we owned the world. Whenever the war drums beat, there is nothing in the end result for the general citizens of the nations involved except for grief, not one of them wins anything.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. Yes.

There's a handful of trolls, and a few who would never openly admit it.

[Warren DeMontague]

6. At least now we know who voted "Yes"

Thanks for being honest.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. No, I haven't voted.

As a general practice, I don't in silly polls.

[Warren DeMontague]

8. I think, with the number of fur-flinging accusations flying around to the effect of

"You're shilling for war with Iran" right now, this is a pretty timely question.

But thanks for popping in to say "hi", anyway.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. Actually, I think there's a valid argument.

There's a difference between hating Ahmadinejad and being part of a lynch mob.

Me myself I've been hating Ahmadinejad since before it was cool. This recent batch of posers just strike me as fair-weather fans. Or the opposite, I suppose. Less concerned with anti-semitism and homophobia, and more just, well, shills.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. You might be right. 'Course, I've lived with that phenomenon on the Iraq war. I was against it

before it started, certainly before it became trendy to be against it. Even bothered to go to a big pre-war protest (they had 'em, believe it or not!) or two, only to see the media ignore it or treat it like a freak show.

Now, of course, most people know the Iraq war is the clusterfuck some of us said it would be. It's like when your favorite band becomes "cool". Man, that sucks.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. Sure.

And if we were back in those pre-war days and somebody were going on and on ad nauseum about how bad Saddam Hussein was, I'd begin to suspect that person was pro-Iraq war regardless of how bad Saddam actually was.

[Warren DeMontague]

20. Right. I'm really a stealth Iran War supporter.

You've got my number, baby.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

22. Meh.

Maybe you're just an innocent part of the mob.

[Warren DeMontague]

24. Well, seeing as we've had histrionics over this "imminent" Iran War pretty much constantly

for the past 2+ years, I'm not going to get too worked up about it. I don't think it's going to happen. Even if the most insane people in our country think it's advisable I don't think it's even remotely feasible..

..so whether or not pointing out that Ahmadinejad is a theocratic fuck who hangs gay kids from pickup trucks (as do the rulers of Saudi Arabia, of course) can be construed by some as advocacy for a war that isn't going to happen, I'm gonna continue to call 'em like I see 'em.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. Whether it happens or not...

war-mongering is still wrong.

[Warren DeMontague]

29. Right. And calling Ahmadinejad for the shithead he is is NOT war-mongering.

Hey. Isn't this exactly where we started? :shrug:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

30. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.

[Warren DeMontague]

31. And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

As long as we're going around and around and around on this thing, I might as well have some cotton candy.

[Warren Stupidity]

51. " I don't think it's even remotely feasible"

Perhaps you think that "war with Iran" means invading Iran as we did with Iraq? That is not the plan, as been documented repeatedly since 2006. Instead the plan is to bomb the crap out of Iran and put Iran under an air interdiction regime like we did to Iraq after Gulf Farce I. Unfortunately that is completely do-able. It might not end up the way it is planned, but we simply do have the capability to engage in an extended air campaign against Iran, and it appears that we are at the brink of setting that plan in motion. Perhaps we have been, as you correctly note, on that brink for 2.5 years. The administration has gotten sufficient authorization from Congress to proceed, via the Lieberman-Kyl amendment, all it needs now is a precipitating incident and it is running out of time.

[Initech]

9. Um... FUCK NO!

Think Iraq is bad now? An unprovoked attack on Iran would be about 1000 times worse!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

10. I don't want the war we currently own

Why in the world would I want a new one?

[yardwork]

11. Thank you for this poll.

Apparently, it is simply very difficult for some DUers to grasp the concept that a person can simultaneously be opposed to Iran's human rights violations AND opposed to going to war with them or anyone else.

It seems like a simple concept to me, but for some DUers, it is just too difficult, apparently.

[Party Line]

16. YESS!!11!

Oh Yeah, Baby!

Blow'ms ups ist soooo much fung to watch on teeveie1

[MoonRiver]

17. 3 people want war with Iran?

Gee, I would have thought we had a few more freepturds on board than that. }(

[Warren DeMontague]

18. Maybe even some of THEM realize what a dumb idea it would be.

They've done the math, and they realize it might involve them being drafted themselves.

[MoonRiver]

21. I do think it may be coming down to that.

If this country lets * and his neocon thugs start WWIII, all hell breaks loose for those losers.

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. That would be the only upside to this

yellow backed freepards in the service

But I really hate the idea of another agressive war

[renie408]

23. The weird thing is....NOBODY I know wants war with Iran

I live in GOP central and NOBODY I know wants war with Iran. If it gets brought up, everybody gets quiet and mumbly, but they end up saying that war with Iran would be insane. Brother, sister, rabid brother-in-law, neighbors and friends, all Republican and all say the same thing.

[NoPasaran]

25. Not at the moment

[daninthemoon]

26. Who voted yes, and more importantly: WHY?

[rucky]

32. So they can get 95% of the attention. n/t

[polichick]

33. Could be the Israel lobby thing...

That's a big part of the Congressional support.

[piesRsquare]

39. Enough of that shit

I'm part of that "Israel Lobby thing" and so are many of my friends!

We are ALL against the Iraq war and have been since before it started (some of us marched in Feb. 2003)!

ALL of us are against going to war with Iran!

"Supporting Israel" DOES NOT MEAN "Pro-War"!

[polichick]

47. I'm glad to hear it...

Unfortunately "supporting Israel" does not mean "pro-peace" either ~ and there are powerful people in that lobby who are pushing for war with Iran. NPR had a discussion about the lobby's influence on our foreign relations last week, and it was very eye-opening.

I don't care one way or another about anybody's religion, but I do care about people in Congress thinking it's okay to use our sons and daughters to fight another country's wars. I also believe that our monetary support of Israel should be tied to behavior, just as it is for other countries. What is good for Israel does not necessarily equal what is good for the U.S.

[progressivebydesign]

34. I am amazed at how many seemingly intelligent people are carrying the Neocons water...

Blows me away really to see how many people are buying into the talking points distributed all over the MSM in the past few days "madman in manhattan" was one graphic to describe the Iranian President's visit... and lots of breathless indignity, and lots of news stories about the evil Iran that is ready to attack America at any time. ANd why the fuck can't he pay respects at 9/11 Ground Zero? Bush was allowed to stand on the remains of the victims, and he's the one that slept on the job and allowed it to happen?

So many DUers are buying into the drumbeat of war... not saying that the Iranian prez is not scary and odd, but it's just freaky to hear people pushing the meme to justify starting the next PNAC production in the Middle East.

[Warren DeMontague]

35. "So many DUers are buying into the drumbeat of war..."

Er, A whopping four, according to this poll.

[mark414]

36. who let Lieberman and Zell Miller vote in this poll????

[Warren DeMontague]

37. Kick for the night shift.

Anyone else?

[and-justice-for-all]

38. If they attack us first, sure...until then, FUCK NO!

[orleans]

43. you know...even that....if they attack us who is to say that "they"

actually attacked us?

look at what happened in congress before their little summer recess--they had "intelligence" that something was going down and so they had to pass that fisa shit, and jane harman comes out and tells us that it turned out to be a bunch of bullshit.

our government has lost so much credibility it is unfreakinreal!

[and-justice-for-all]

50. Like a False Flag event??

I was meaning an obvious invasion..

Yes, the US Government is in the shitter. No question about that.

[Perseid]

40. Sometimes, like when Germany attacked Pearl Harbor

a country's got to do what a country's got to do!

Hell, Iran has done...........well........like Iraq.........

nothing.

(sarcasm included in this post)

[in_cog_ni_to]

41. NO! n/t

[Swamp Rat]

42. They are human beings, the Iranians.

Men, women, children, pets, animals, trees.... why would any sane person want to destroy them?



I believe most Iranians want democracy, but not at the end of a gun.

[LeftishBrit]

44. Couldn't say it better! Thanks!

[candymarl]

45. I want war with Iran

As a matter of fact, I want war with everybody. The yapping little dogs next door. I also want war with my neighbors, total strangers, two turtle doves, and a partridge in a pear tree. Excuse me while I declare war on the really cute squirrel outside. She/he did throw a pine cone at my head.:sarcasm:

[seabeyond]

46. good poll. will give a percentage of freepers on this board.

lol lol. we could not have had a better question to give us an idea of the number, or percentage of freepers that wonder our board. interesting.

[TheUniverse]

48. I never ever want war.

War is evil and should never be done, unless your life depends on it.

[RebelOne]

49. We have 7 freepers or warmongers that voted yes. n/t

[Bucky]

52. Or maybe 7 smart asses

There's a lot of them on the Internets, too.