Zandor
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Thu Sep-27-07 03:44 PM
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Why Do Resolutons Only Matter When We Don't Like Them? |
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I have seen a lot of fury the past few days over the MoveOn and Kyl-Lieberman resolutions.
But if Democrats sponsor or pass a resolution it's a wimpy substitute for "real action".
Why?
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Thu Sep-27-07 03:49 PM
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1. Guess you decided to start another flame throwing war |
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Care to list specfics? What resolutions are you talking about?
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Zandor
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:05 PM
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I should have come up with an example before hand.
Look at it this way - can you remember getting as excited about a resolution as you were angry about Kyl-Lieberman and MoveOn?
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Thu Sep-27-07 03:51 PM
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2. Because many here do not understand what purpose they serve |
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So they jump on bashing bandwagons and ride off into the sunset
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Thu Sep-27-07 03:53 PM
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3. Both of your examples are wimpy and deserve scorn.. |
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What was the question again?:*
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Zandor
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Thu Sep-27-07 03:55 PM
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4. If a resolution were passed |
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condemning the no-bid contracts for Haliburton, or the conduct of Blackwater - would you be satisified with that? Would you be as elated as you are angry about the MoveOn and Kyl-Lieberman resolutions?
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:00 PM
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about those 2? MoveOn was condemning free speech, and the Kyl-Lieberman gave bushco a way to get into Iraq. That doesn't bother you?
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:03 PM
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8. I'm saying we're too hard on Democrats regarding resolutions |
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Ones we don't like are infuriating, yet ones we like as passed off as wimpy non-action.
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:13 PM
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is NOT impeaching bush/cheney NOT ending the war NOT reinstating Habuas Corpas
What wimpy non-action are you speaking of?
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Thu Sep-27-07 06:44 PM
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20. WTF are you going on about now? What "ones we like as passed off as wimpy non-action" do you mean? |
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Too broad of a flamebait OP. You post Lieberman/Kly and MoveOn slap for "ones we don't like" but how about giving an example of "ones we like as passed off as wimpy non-action", whatever the heck that means.
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Thu Sep-27-07 07:13 PM
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Name one resolution that got as positive reaction that matched the negativity about Kyl-Liebernam or MoveOn.
You can't.
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Thu Sep-27-07 07:22 PM
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22. Quit condescending and tell me What "ones we like as passed off as wimpy non-action" . |
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You asserted it, you show what ones you mean. For example....? It's your assertion, it's up to you to prove it, or at least to show wtf you are talking about.
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Thu Sep-27-07 07:28 PM
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23. You proved it for me, thanks |
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Thu Sep-27-07 07:43 PM
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24. oh bs. You proved you can't back up your claim. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 07:58 PM by uppityperson
"breath. you can't prove what I'm talking about and I'm not going to clarify or give an example either. neener neener neener." pshaw
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:02 PM
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7. No, I would not be satisfied! |
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I think the Halliburton and Blackwater execs should be tried as war criminals, along with the rest of the chimp administration.
Then.....they should be hung from the nuts until dead.
That would be a start.
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:03 PM
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9. ok... disregard underneath. |
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the difference is: what is the appropriate action, given the situation.
The Move On thing should've never made it to the floor of either house.
The Halliburton thing would be a slap on the wrist for Grand Larceny, racketeering, fraud, and worse. We'll never know how much worse because there was never an investigation. Congress needs to do that.
Investigate, Impeach, Indict. Justice elates me, not empty gestures.
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Thu Sep-27-07 03:59 PM
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5. You'll have to give an example. |
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cuz I'm not following you.
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:05 PM
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11. Well that makes no sense |
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:05 PM
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12. Because the Executive will take the Kyl-Lieberman resolution |
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and use it to justify action. Resolutions that the Congress passess that the Executive finds no use for have no effect whatsoever.
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:14 PM
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14. Seems like an oxymoron. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 04:16 PM by bemildred
Like we should care about resolutions we don't care about. It seems silly to think we ought to care about all resolutions the same.
I suppose the argument is that "wimpy" == "doesn't matter", which is in fact wrong, they are different. One means "important but not good enough" and the other means "not important to me".
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:16 PM
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15. Because whining is a wimpy substitute for real action. n/t |
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:37 PM
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16. Either way, it's a wimpy substitute for real action. |
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When they attempt to suppress dissent on the war, though, they are particularly despicable.
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:41 PM
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17. Because we HOPE we elected them to do things we do like. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 05:02 PM by blondeatlast
And we donors of time, money, and our civil liberties are entitled to get really uppirty when they don't.
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Thu Sep-27-07 05:40 PM
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19. Okay - here's the challenge (for all of us) |
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Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 05:44 PM by Zandor
It's my sense there is far more outrage about ones we dislike than elation over ones we do.
Let's not beat the hell out of Democrats for resolutions we don't like and yawn at those we do like.
Put it another way - when have we seen joy at DU over ANY resolution that was comparable to the outrage over Kyl-Lieberman and MoveOn?
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Thu Sep-27-07 04:43 PM
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18. Because these resolutions have nothing to do |
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with the will of the people.
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Thu Sep-27-07 07:47 PM
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25. Because they can do so much more. |
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I'm also a political opponent of anyone who supports or aids this administration's policies or crimes in any matter whatsoever unequivocally.
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Thu Sep-27-07 08:05 PM
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26. because we are the majority and we're acting like we are the minority, those |
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resolutions should have been tabled.
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