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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:44 PM
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Why Do Resolutons Only Matter When We Don't Like Them?
I have seen a lot of fury the past few days over the MoveOn and Kyl-Lieberman resolutions.

But if Democrats sponsor or pass a resolution it's a wimpy substitute for "real action".

Why?
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:49 PM
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1. Guess you decided to start another flame throwing war
Care to list specfics? What resolutions are you talking about?
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:05 PM
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10. My bad
I should have come up with an example before hand.

Look at it this way - can you remember getting as excited about a resolution as you were angry about Kyl-Lieberman and MoveOn?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:51 PM
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2. Because many here do not understand what purpose they serve
So they jump on bashing bandwagons and ride off into the sunset
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:53 PM
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3. Both of your examples are wimpy and deserve scorn..
What was the question again?:*
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:55 PM
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4. If a resolution were passed
condemning the no-bid contracts for Haliburton, or the conduct of Blackwater - would you be satisified with that? Would you be as elated as you are angry about the MoveOn and Kyl-Lieberman resolutions?
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:00 PM
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6. Are you not upset
about those 2? MoveOn was condemning free speech, and the Kyl-Lieberman gave bushco a way to get into Iraq. That doesn't bother you?
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:03 PM
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8. I'm saying we're too hard on Democrats regarding resolutions
Ones we don't like are infuriating, yet ones we like as passed off as wimpy non-action.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:13 PM
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13. Wimpy non-action
is
NOT impeaching bush/cheney
NOT ending the war
NOT reinstating Habuas Corpas

What wimpy non-action are you speaking of?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:44 PM
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20. WTF are you going on about now? What "ones we like as passed off as wimpy non-action" do you mean?
Too broad of a flamebait OP. You post Lieberman/Kly and MoveOn slap for "ones we don't like" but how about giving an example of "ones we like as passed off as wimpy non-action", whatever the heck that means.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:13 PM
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21. Take a breath
Name one resolution that got as positive reaction that matched the negativity about Kyl-Liebernam or MoveOn.

You can't.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:22 PM
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22. Quit condescending and tell me What "ones we like as passed off as wimpy non-action" .
You asserted it, you show what ones you mean. For example....? It's your assertion, it's up to you to prove it, or at least to show wtf you are talking about.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:28 PM
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23. You proved it for me, thanks
You can't name one.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:43 PM
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24. oh bs. You proved you can't back up your claim.
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 07:58 PM by uppityperson
"breath. you can't prove what I'm talking about and I'm not going to clarify or give an example either. neener neener neener." pshaw
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:02 PM
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7. No, I would not be satisfied!
I think the Halliburton and Blackwater execs should be tried as war criminals, along with the rest of the chimp administration.

Then.....they should be hung from the nuts until dead.

That would be a start.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:03 PM
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9. ok... disregard underneath.
the difference is: what is the appropriate action, given the situation.

The Move On thing should've never made it to the floor of either house.

The Halliburton thing would be a slap on the wrist for Grand Larceny, racketeering, fraud, and worse. We'll never know how much worse because there was never an investigation. Congress needs to do that.

Investigate, Impeach, Indict. Justice elates me, not empty gestures.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:59 PM
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5. You'll have to give an example.
cuz I'm not following you.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:05 PM
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11. Well that makes no sense
This OP is confusing.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:05 PM
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12. Because the Executive will take the Kyl-Lieberman resolution
and use it to justify action. Resolutions that the Congress passess that the Executive finds no use for have no effect whatsoever.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:14 PM
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14. Seems like an oxymoron.
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 04:16 PM by bemildred
Like we should care about resolutions we don't care about. It seems silly to think we ought to care about all resolutions the same.

I suppose the argument is that "wimpy" == "doesn't matter", which is in fact wrong, they are different. One means "important but not good enough" and the other means "not important to me".
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:16 PM
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15. Because whining is a wimpy substitute for real action. n/t
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:37 PM
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16. Either way, it's a wimpy substitute for real action.
When they attempt to suppress dissent on the war, though, they are particularly despicable.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:41 PM
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17. Because we HOPE we elected them to do things we do like.
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 05:02 PM by blondeatlast
And we donors of time, money, and our civil liberties are entitled to get really uppirty when they don't.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:40 PM
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19. Okay - here's the challenge (for all of us)
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 05:44 PM by Zandor
It's my sense there is far more outrage about ones we dislike than elation over ones we do.

Let's not beat the hell out of Democrats for resolutions we don't like and yawn at those we do like.

Put it another way - when have we seen joy at DU over ANY resolution that was comparable to the outrage over Kyl-Lieberman and MoveOn?

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:43 PM
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18. Because these resolutions have nothing to do
with the will of the people.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:47 PM
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25. Because they can do so much more.
I'm also a political opponent of anyone who supports or aids this administration's policies or crimes in any matter whatsoever unequivocally.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 08:05 PM
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26. because we are the majority and we're acting like we are the minority, those
resolutions should have been tabled.
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