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PITT: During the Clinton administration, if there was going to be an investigation into something, it was going to come out of the House of Representatives. What would your assessment of the situation be at this point?
McG: It doesn?t take a crackerjack analyst. Take Pat Roberts, the Republican Senator from Kansas, who is chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. When the Niger forgery was unearthed and when Colin Powell admitted, well shucks, it was a forgery, Senator Jay Rockefellar, the ranking Democrat on that committee, went to Pat Roberts and said they really needed the FBI to take a look at this. After all, this was known to be a forgery and was still used on Congressmen and Senators. We?d better get the Bureau in on this. Pat Roberts said no, that would be inappropriate. So Rockefellar drafted his own letter, and went back to Roberts and said he was going to send the letter to FBI Director Mueller, and asked if Roberts would sign on to it. Roberts said no, that would be inappropriate.
What the FBI Director eventually got was a letter from one Minority member saying pretty please, would you maybe take a look at what happened here, because we think there may have been some skullduggery. The answer he got from the Bureau was a brush-off. Why do I mention all that? This is the same Pat Roberts who is going to lead the investigation into what happened with this issue.
There is a lot that could be said about Pat Roberts. I remember way back last fall when people were being briefed, CIA and others were briefing Congressmen and Senators about the weapons of mass destruction. These press folks were hanging around outside the briefing room, and when the Senators came out, one of the press asked Senator Roberts how the evidence on weapons of mass destruction was. Roberts said, oh, it was very persuasive, very persuasive.
The press guy asked Roberts to tell him more about that. Roberts said, ?Truck A was observed to be going under Shed B, where Process C is believed to be taking place.? The press guy asked him if he found that persuasive, and Pat Roberts said, ?Oh, these intelligence folks, they have these techniques down so well, so yeah, this is very persuasive.? And the correspondent said thank you very much, Senator.
So, if you?ve got a Senator who is that inclined to believe that kind of intelligence, you?ve got someone who will do the administration?s bidding. On the House side, of course, you?ve got Porter Goss, who is a CIA alumnus. Porter Goss? main contribution last year to the joint committee investigating 9/11 was to sic the FBI on members of that committee, at the direction of who? Dick Cheney. Goss admits this. He got a call from Dick Cheney, and he was ?chagrined? in Goss? word that he was upbraided by Dick Cheney for leaks coming out of the committee. He then persuaded the innocent Bob Graham to go with him to the FBI and ask the Bureau to investigate the members of that committee. Polygraphs and everything were involved. That?s the first time something like that has ever happened.
Be aware, of course, that Congress has its own investigative agencies, its own ways of investigating things like that. So without any regard for the separation of powers, here Goss says Cheney is bearing down on me, so let?s get the FBI in here. In this case, ironically enough, the FBI jumped right in with Ashcroft whipping it along. They didn?t come up with much, but the precedent was just terrible.
All I?m saying is that you?ve got Porter Goss on the House side, you?ve got Pat Roberts on the Senate side, you?ve got John Warner who?s a piece with Pat Roberts. I?m very reluctant to be so unequivocal, but in this case I can say nothing is going to come out of those hearings but a lot of smoke.