I was never a big fan of the Roman/Greek wars -

[Joe for Clark]

Pretty much if it didn't start with America did what ever... I didn't care.

If you go to grad school - particularly with a military academy - that is where they start. Like I said, I still don't like it - but I understand it.

Flat out - the neo cons do base their strategy on the Peloponnesian war -they just fucking do. They don't even deny it. And I am telling you straight - they did NOT read the book all the way through - honest to god.

My god, if they are right it turns into a war with the Persians (PRESENT DAY IRAN) then Athens gets burned to the ground - thats if they are right!!!

Frankly - Sparta doesn't do too well in the end anyway!!

So you wonder - which side you neo cons on? Sparta gets screwed - Athens gets burned to the ground - how you idiots figure we win??? Truly you are a GW Bsh type student - C-s all around for you people.

Come on Mr Gore, you know better!!

Joe

[ruiner4u]

1. I hear ya Joe...

[UTUSN]

2. Somewhere in GIBBON, can't find the quote again, he says that the citizens of Rome

were O.K. with disconnecting from whatever far away wars the emperors were running, so long as they had their own needs met inside the city. Hence, "bread & circuses."

[deaniac21]

3. Wes couldn't have said it better! Please RUN, WES!

[ruiner4u]

4. Huh?