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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:49 AM
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Obama Rips into Clinton's Iran Vote
Thursday, Oct. 11, 2007

Five years after the 'war vote,' we're still foolishly rattling our sabers

By SEN. BARACK OBAMA

ON THE FIFTH anniversary of the Senate's vote to authorize an open-ended war in Iraq, we should resolve to never repeat the terrible mistake of launching a misguided war. But unfortunately, the Senate risked doing exactly that when it recently opened the door to an extension and escalation of the ongoing war in Iraq to include military action against Iran.

There is no doubt that Iran poses a threat. It has armed terrorists beyond its borders, maintains an illicit nuclear program, and its leaders have issued belligerent threats that are a concern to us all. But our first and most important avenue to contain Iranian aggression is to try the tough and direct diplomacy that the Bush administration has too often disdained. Instead of encouraging that diplomacy, an amendment passed last month by the Senate could be used by the President as justification to strike Iran under the authority granted to him by the 2002 Iraq war resolution.

The amendment, offered by Sens. Joe Lieberman and Jon Kyl, directly links the ongoing war in Iraq -- including our troop presence -- to checking the threat from Iran. The amendment opens with 17 findings that highlight Iranian influence within Iraq. It then states that we have to "transition(s) and structure" our "military presence in Iraq" to counter the threat from Iran, and states that it is "a critical national interest of the United States" to prevent the Iranian government from exerting influence inside Iraq.

Why is this so dangerous? The Bush administration could use language like this to justify a continued troop presence in Iraq as long as it perceives a threat from Iran. Even worse, the Bush administration could use the language in Lieberman-Kyl to justify an attack on Iran as a part of the ongoing war in Iraq.

As my colleague Sen. Joe Biden, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, said in opposing the amendment, "I do not want to give the President and his lawyers any argument that Congress has somehow authorized military actions."

He is exactly right. Because as we learned with the original authorization of the Iraq war -- when you give this President a blank check, you can't be surprised when he cashes it.

I strongly differ with Sen. Hillary Clinton, who was the only Democratic presidential candidate to support this reckless amendment. We do need to tighten sanctions on the Iranian regime, particularly on Iran's Revolutionary Guard, which sponsors terrorism far beyond Iran's borders. But this must be done separately from any unnecessary saber-rattling about checking Iranian influence with our "military presence in Iraq." Above all, it must be done through tough and direct diplomacy with Iran, which I have supported, and which Sen. Clinton has called "naive and irresponsible."

Sen. Clinton says she was merely voting for more diplomacy, not war with Iran. If this has a familiar ring, it should. Five years after the original vote for war in Iraq, Sen. Clinton has argued that her vote was not for war -- it was for diplomacy, or inspections. But all of us knew what the Senate was debating in 2002. John Edwards has renounced his own vote for the war, and he should be applauded for his candor. After all, we didn't need to authorize a war in order to have United Nations weapons inspections. No one thought Congress was debating diplomacy. No newspaper headlines ran on Oct. 12, 2002, reading, "Congress authorizes diplomacy." This was a vote to authorize war, and without that vote, there would have been no war.

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Now, the Senate has once again voted for an amendment that goes out of its way to draw connections between distinct threats, and that replaces judicious policy-making with unnecessary saber-rattling. And once again, we hear that it is not really a vote for more war, it is a vote for more diplomacy.

But the way to support diplomacy is to actually pursue it, which is what I have called for in this campaign. Not the ad hoc Bush-Cheney diplomacy of not talking to people we don't like, but real, direct, and sustained diplomacy that exhausts all of our options instead of rushing to war.


entire article: http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Sen.+Barack+Obama%3a+Five+years+after+Iraq+war+vote%2c+we%27re+still+foolishly+rattling+our+sabers&articleId=a41d44e5-0c56-4353-b9f6-5eda09c81236
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:58 AM
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1. He didn't even vote
I'm sorry Obama has little to talk about regarding the LIEberman Kyl Iran resolution when he didn't even bother to vote....

AND I'm not convinced that if he had been in the Senate in 2002 for the IWR vote that some dumb ass adviser wouldn't have talked him into voting for it too.....

Talk is cheap Senator and ACTIONS do speak louder than words
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 08:02 AM
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2. you make a good point. I would have liked to have seen him vote on this
Although, these candidates are well aware of when their votes will actually make a difference and will fly to the Capitol at the bidding of the majority leader.

I don't think he can be accused, though, after this statement, of trying to straddle the issue. His words do matter on this . . . much more than his vote would have.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:29 AM
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3. I hope he is not straddling the issue
but it does look REALLY bad that he didn't vote when the other three did....I'm just deeply disapponted he didn't.....and would have WAY more confidence in him if he had
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:02 PM
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4. Two paragraphs were removed from the legislation. L & K didn't get
the vote on what they wanted.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:19 PM
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5. Bush did, though
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:22 PM
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6. Has anyone informed him that he didn't even bother to vote?!?
It's easy to throw stones when you don't have a position on it yourself. To me, he's trying to have his cake and eat it too. Which is too bad, because I was firmly behind him but saw my support start to slowly erode away due to things like this.
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