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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:21 AM
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A question for the Hillary supporters among us
Would you still support Hillary if there was an attractive, bright progressive woman who had great name recognition and was against the war--both the one in Iraq and the coming war against Iran, and against torture; and most importantly, have a chance of winning both the Democratic nomination and the general election?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:33 AM
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1. I don't support her, but as my mother is wont to say:
If if and ands were pots and pans
and all the sea were ink
and all the trees were bread and cheese
what would there be to drink?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 06:50 AM
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2. silly, you are decribing Hil.
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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:16 AM
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3. No No & No
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 07:57 AM
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4. Are you attempting to find sexists DUers?
Is it all about her sex to you?
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:02 AM
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5. Academic Question
Yours is an academic question. The truth is that your candidate doesn't exist, and her successful candidacy is purely wishful thinking. There's a lot about a Hillary Clinton presidency I probably won't like very much--but I think that a Hillary Clinton presidency would be far, far better for the US and for the world than another four years of vicious, arrogant, partisan, stupid, and incompetent Republicanism in the White House.

I suspect that Hillary is a lot less flexible than Bill was---but unlike the fellow installed after Bill left on January 20th, 2001, Hillary is at least reachable and teachable.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:02 AM
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6. Like THIS lady?
My PERSONAL favorite female in politics today:

I would throw my jacket on the ground to preserve her shoe leather!





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Schakowsky
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:26 AM
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16. What I hear about her I have liked
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 09:44 AM by left is right
and I think that govenors and former governors make better presidents with the obvious exception of * and Reagan
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:06 AM
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7. "attractive"?
Naw, nothing sexist there... :eyes:
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:17 AM
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9. Men can't be attractive? Looks like someone is searching again.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:55 AM
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11. my point about attractive isn't at all sexiest
attraction is far more than just physical appearance, I think we all realize that but we also realize that it is far harder for a less physically attractive person to go as far as a more physically attractive person. Take Dennis Kucinich, he he by far the best candidate for this country--at this time. He is right on every issue (at least as far as I am concerned) but he has the unfortunate looks of a tall Kibbler elf. He doesn't look like "a president" and he isn't going to gain our nomination. He is in good company, good ole Abe wouldn't be able to gain any party's nomination either.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:09 AM
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12. "if there was an attractive, bright progressive woman " But not fat, old, ugly?
:eyes:
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:16 AM
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14. I could vote for fat, old and ugly
but not too old, I will never vote for a candidate that is in her 80's I would have to think real hard about one who was in his 70's. However, in the age of television, attractive will always beat out unattractive
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:09 AM
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8. OP translation:
"Are you voting for Hillary just because she's a woman?"
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:18 AM
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10. Well many Hillary supporters have admitted just that.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:12 AM
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13. Yes, yes
that is exactly my point. I think we are in need of a woman president and to the Obama supporters I also think we are in need of an African-American president, I particularly like that he has a Muslim heritage, I also like the fact that Bill Richardson has a Hispanic background. And a Feingold presidential run would put me in state of ecstasy that I'm afraid I could never recover from. I love the notion of diversity in our nation's top position.

I wanted to love Hillary as a presidential candidate. However, I am largely disappointed in her. In my mind, if you are wrong on the war and torture you can't be right on anything else. I want to vote for a woman president, how disappointed I am that it has to be Hillary (if she gains the nomination.)
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:19 AM
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15. Sounds like you're describing the CC Goldwater/Stephanie Miller ticket
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:30 AM
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18. I have no opinion on these two very attractive women
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 09:32 AM by left is right
I don't know the name Goldwater at all and I think Stephanie Miller might be on AAR but I don't have access to AAR.

Where do they stand on the war, torture, children's health care and the social safety net for poor families?
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:23 AM
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20. Oh. Sorry about that. The post was an attempt at wry humor.
Stephanie Miller's a progressive/lefty comedienne who hosts a show on Air America Radio. Funny as all get-out, by the way. Her father, in 1964, was the running mate of Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater.

CC Goldwater is the granddaughter of Barry Goldwater himself. She and Steph are pals, I think. Anyway, with tongue planted firmly in cheek, they've launched their own campaign for the presidency and vice-presidency. Their slogan says it all: "Family name. No skills. Just like W."

I'm pretty sure their position on these important issues would be:

War: very bad
Torture: extremely bad
Children's Health Care: good
Social Safety Net for Poor Families: good

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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:28 AM
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17. wha?
I see your agenda: get up / get coffee / receive faxed post ideas / talk to cohorts / post snarky stuff against Clinton.

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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 09:43 AM
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19. I will vote for Hillary if she gains the nomination
She will be a far better president than the idiot we have in office now. Is she the best candidate that is running-no way. And one of the things that gives me the most concern over her future presidency, isn't her fault and she has no way to correct it--Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton. How very unfortunate that she is related to Clinton, the first. Not that there is anything wrong with that--we just need greater diversity than what we have had. If we could just have 16 to 20 years between former presidents and their relatives.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 10:24 AM
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21. If My Uncle Had A Package He Would Be My Aunt
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 10:24 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
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