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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 12:55 PM Original message |
Florida county chair won't let candidate into county fundraiser...tells him not to run again. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. Party rules don't determine who gets to run for political office. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The consensus reason is that he questions things. |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. then that is probably the reason he is being blocked |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. And they do over and over |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. His website is fantastic. He looks like a great candidate. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
59. i was a dem delegate in 2004 for fla in a county near John..he is a wonderful man.. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. Is the County Chair deciding who to run or the DCCC? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. He ran against Ginny Brown Waite last time. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:39 AM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Multiply this all across the country and all the way up the food chain and you know why we |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. John is well known in the district. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:51 AM Response to Reply #37 |
65. and well respected by sincere dems!! eom |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
70. So, you don't think that his losing in a landslide last time has anything to do with it? |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. He tells the truth, unvarnished, and is a fighting progressive... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. Russell got 40%? Not bad in that district. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Good question. FDP didn't endorse his opponent, Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) did |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. This Wasserman Schultz? Who is a New Democrat and works closely with Bill Nelson? |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:33 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Nelson, barely a Democrat,; Wasserman Schultz, Democrat when convenient;) |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
48. It would be foolish for the DNC not to work with Florida |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Dean has tried to work with Florida. The primary vote was planned |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:33 AM Response to Reply #48 |
62. the DNC all but kissed Fla's ass ..it was the DLC who turned their back on Dean! |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
80. She lost me when she started naming and defaming progressives. nt |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
61. i believe we are the testing ground for what the DCCC and DLC have planned nationwide! |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Hey Fly, good to see you again. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Hi Dr Phool..yeah i saw that one coming..and Clint has done so much to try to stop Feeney |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. The legal answer is "No, the party cant do squat to prevent him from running. " |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. They can pretend they don't exist....with complicit media. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
73. Yep. So very true |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
75. funny you say that..there is one reporter..who went to the 2004 convention |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. In all probability, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Well said, Dr. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Good point. Primary opponents disocurage donors. |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. Kick and Rec. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Glad he is filing for sure. |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. Hey Mad! Thanks for keeping us informed about Florida. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
77. Hi and thanks.... |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
81. Mad ..is queen to me!!..eom |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. When he files, you can help him get on progressive support lists. Feingold has one, |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
63. we need to get him on Mike Malloy show..and get national attention to get $$ |
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youngharry (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. Dr. Phoo |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. As for being stopped at the door; that sounds exactly like what the neocons do. |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. Just had a look at Russell's website and........... |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
39. The dislike him so much, he has trolls show up when he posts on news blogs. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
15. Actually, in Florida, it's not a bad idea to run twice. Especially if you've |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
16. Check out these two articles on Florida's Democratic Party & Progressives, e.g. Russell |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
19. Here is the fundraiser Russell allegedly would not be allowed into. |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Her DFA group never held a meeting. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Aha....I had heard that. But forgotten. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
20. We've had that happen here in Michigan, too. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. What do you think of the big three Dem candidates ignoring Michigan? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Hillary IS going. The others are not. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. If Dean weren't there this party would be over. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Clinton's on the ballot, as is Kucinich. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. So it's ok to you if big states break the rules? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I'm not happy our state party started this fight, no, but-- |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Don't you worry. Hillary takes over control in Jan. or Feb. Delegates will count |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. ????? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Then your state and Florida should admit they broke party rules... |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I haven't trusted Mark Brewer for awhile now. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:45 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. dean didn't break the rules..he is forced to abide by the rules..so the dlc is making him the |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. But he's still the chairman. He can find a better way. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. the problem is ..he has tried to fix it ..in many different ways..and the dlc in fla |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. You know, that sounds a lot like my county party up here in MI. |
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NobleCynic (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
21. Sorry, but nothing out of Florida suprises me. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. She reported from Yearly Kos and treated a progressive candidate like this? |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Who decides who is the State Chair? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Our county chair sent a letter to withhold funds from the DNC |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. The State Committee people from the county DEC's elect the chair. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-13-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. And they used tactics to keep progressives from running. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. Seems to me that the best way to get Thurman out is to put the heat on Nelson |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. We can't put heat on Nelson. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #47 |
76. sorry but i am chuckling here...heat on Nelson?? ... |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
42. kr for exposure |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
45. I hope he runs again. |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 01:15 AM Response to Reply #45 |
67. He's going to. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 07:12 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. best of luck with that. |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
49. Like we keep telling the Repubes, we need to take our party back. |
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SergeyDovlatov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
52. party is a private organization... it can do whatever it wants |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:16 AM Response to Reply #52 |
60. They're so comfortable in their dominance, they don't even think of image. |
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SergeyDovlatov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
53. dup. please ignore |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
69. Florida Dem "leadership"-- Delusional Stockholm Syndrome types |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
79. Something is definately wrong and thank you for not allowing it to be ignored. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I don't intend to let it be ignored any longer. |
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