As the body breaks

[undergroundpanther]

Well last week,I fell down my basement stairs.It was 3 am. I got up to pee, went in the wrong door,and it wasn't my bedroom. I found myself flying down the basement stairs.Hit the floor with a slam at an amazing speed. As I tried to move to get myself back upstairs, I noticed me friggin' head was bleeding.great. Owwww.

My roommate must have heard the ruckus and he helped me up.
Anyways I had to call the ambulance. My roommate who was going to take me to the ER ,he passed out. So me being last one standing, I called 911 for both of us. The EMT's got here,my roommate was now conscious,on the couch and I was in the chair holding down the phone button to keep the phone hung up. My neck was killing me. I was worried about my already fucked spine being worse..My roommate seemed ok.I was put in a collar and tied to a back board ,put onto a gurney and into the ambulance.

When we got to the ER I told the attending nurse and the EMT on the way there to get me out of these restraints ASAP.
They took around 2 hours.I kinda flipped out.I can't take restraints I freak too many bad memories.

Then they took them off.
They totally blew protocol for restraints but it gets worse.

I was there around 4 hours before I got cat scanned I was in bad pain. The cat scan people were cool.
The x ray people were assholes. At x ray they finally gave me some pain medicine. After 2 seconds the x ray lady told me to move myself to the x ray table, I tried to but it hurt and she was disgruntled she had to help me move. She had me move to the side I could not see the handle she was pointing at as my neck was in a collar,Again and again I tried to grab the handle and lift myself but I kept missing the handle,banged my fingers in frustration I said fuck,..This lazy ass tech told me to watch my language!!

Of all times to be a fucking puritan. I felt like kicking her teeth in but I bit my tongue. And she pissed and moaned about having to help me move.Fucking psychopathic dead emotion pieces of shit like her do not belong in the health care industry.These half human creatures they go for the health care,clergy, mental health careers because they get a power rush out of dominating the injured and weak people and this creep had no compassion.
I hope I never see that asshole again.

But it gets worse.
Long after sunrise I am discharged.As I wait I ask for a cold pack and the day shift guy was kind enough to give me two!
I get my discharge papers get informed I have an ovarian cyst,and I am shown the door. I walk a good ways to the cafeteria to take one of the pain pills they gave me,and I call my sister for a ride home.

I was home like 3 hours,and I get a call.It's the hospital I gotta come back. I need a leg brace and crutches,because my knee is fractured.These fuckers discharged me with a fracture.I had walked quite a lot with a fracture unknowingly limping. I wondered why my leg looked funny. So I called around and got a ride.It was like two more hours before I got there. Now I got this retarded velcro leg brace thing that continually slips down. The doctor they referred me to does not accept MA. So I have been this past week calling and trying to find a doctor to help with me knee who does take MA.One thing about medical assistance it is very different in real life compared to what it says it is on paper.
Hardly any doctors accept medical assistance if you need a dentist you won't find one. It in some instances in some places almost like not having insurance.

My back seized up today.Had to take pain killers and muscle relaxers. Nobody was home.I managed to get myself on my bed. I was kinda feeling despair so I called my mom.. I had no one else to call.It is an ache now.Glad that has eased up.

Sigh.

This got me thinking. My issues are nothing compared to someone with cancer ,a bad sickness or worse degeneration in their spinal disc's than mine..

I cannot imagine how hard it is for them to deal with this incompetence ,hassles and bullshit times 100,with the anxiety, pain fear and suffering they must go through. Add on the fact most likely they don't have medical assistance it becomes 1000 times worse for them.It makes my blood boil.

If we all were treated to the same health care the senate gets we would not be suffering from may of the stresses seeking health care causes us.There would be people there to help with the paperwork.Bills would be twipped for us,we would be treated with respect,and not be treated like scum,every effort to make us comfortable would be made ,we could go to good doctors and hospitals that would not keep us restrained until we flip out,notify us we have a cyst without telling us if it was dangerous or not, or send us home with fractures.
We would be followed up from start to finish.


The kindness and thoroughness richie's get should be what each person gets.Rich people do not deserve better than MA or no health care.They should not be so privileged at the expense of millions who go without. How many hours does congress really DO work? How many hours does a janitor or maid work?
And congress is out of session part of the year,Janitors and maids get no such leisure time. It is time to MAKE the RICH SHARE.
If they do not share we must take back from them what we deserve to have.We too have a right to pursue OUR happiness too.

Things shouldn't be this way.
The only reason it is like this is because the rich are greedy and they can never have enough and we the people have forgotten this and give them too much. The rich are like goldfish you feed them too much they will eat themselves to death.
We have to limit the wealth the rich take so they cannot buy our government, buy the FDA, buy private mercenary armies like black water..We have to treat the rich like goldfish give them only a little of our time,labor and trust,and not give the rich our lives for they will consume us without shame, until we are used up husks, than throw us away when we become old sick or not useful.
The rich are not like us they do not have a reason to develop kindness without expecting a return on the investment .So they never have..

Here are some links..
The Rich Are Making the Poor Poorer
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=13064
http://greedyrichpeople.com/
http://www.juicycerebellum.com/poorboy.htm
http://www.ubersite.com/m/108639

http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/iie/v3n2/justworld.html
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/13/2507/

Why are people defending the status quo and not working to implement health care structures and demanding low-cost medicines?
I think it’s because the rich people of the world didn’t really embrace the poor people of the world as being truly human, and this is a part of our primitive past. We hope that now, and in the year 2020, things are changing and that people’s poverty will not stop us from embracing their humanity. Some people would say embracing their humanity means saying that their culture is “cool.” That’s okay, anthropologists do that all the time. But truly appreciating their humanity means saying, “They’re hungry, we’ve got to do something about it; they’re going to die of TB, let’s make it possible for them to be cured.” For all of us physicians and those who care about the rest of the world, fully embracing the humanity of others and letting their suffering ***fracture our own existence*** is the most difficult and most important thing we have to do.
http://www.satyamag.com/jan01/kim.html

[Kiouni]

1. That just sucks panther

I work in health care I and yeah there are a lot of ass holes here. But once these jerks get sick and have to go under the knife they change their ways quick and realize how the attitude of one nurse can make or break your stay.

That cyst is concerning though. My wife (who is a nurse) is home for 4 weeks because she had a cyst that ruptured and she bled out 5 units. Not to scare you but it can happen and the symptoms of abdominal bleeding are often mistaken. She had flu like symptoms with it. Both of us couldn't figure out what it was until we went in so stay safe and take care.

[undergroundpanther]

5. wow

didn't know that. I just figured it was just a cyst thing. It does cause me some discomfort if you poke me there but it isn't agony.
Strange I had a thought on the cyst issue, I am trans gender and I have had a hysterectomy and a male chest reconstruction done and it looks like still my body is rejecting the remnants of the female parts. I dunno.My body has been at war with itself most of my life . That's the only thing I can describe this feeling of transgender as being like.
So may I ask in general terms, when should anyone start worrying about ovarian cysts ? Should I worry now? Do I have time for my knee brace to be off? The ER doctor said nothing about the possibility of it rupturing or anything. He just said it was there like it was routine.You think he should have at least told me what things to look for if this cyst decides to become a problem.
He said he noticed it my pain reaction and he saw it in the cat scan of my spine and the x rays.

[Kiouni]

12. Well

From what I understand the cyst forms at the beginning of a cycle and sometimes it can be ruptured (sex or just randomly) and bleeds out. The ER doc said he sees a rupture about once a month so thats pretty rare. It did sound like a lot of women had something called poly-cystic ovarian syndrome, might want to google that. I don't know much beyond that. Hope I'm of some help.

I wouldn't take the brace off if your moving around they just want it to heal right. But it seems they're doing that a lot now, sending home breaks with soft casts. I would imagine you can take it off if you don't move it, that's what they told me when I broke my ankle. Get well soon.

[Ms. Toad]

33. You should probably find a doc

who has had experience with trans folks.

From what I understand, in bodies controlled by female hormones cysts grow and shrink with the monthly cycle. Normally, the routine is just to watch through a couple of cycles to make sure its shrinking back. I'm kind of surprised the hysterectomy didn't include taking the ovaries - and I'm not sure how the testosterone I expect you are taking would interact with the expected behavior of cysts. Probably the best person to help you understand that would be your surgeon - or someone who has had experience dealing with trans folks and the special health concerns associated with body part/hormone mismatch.

[knitter4democracy]

37. The usual rule is three cycles.

If a cyst is still there after three cycles, it's not unusual for them to operate. There are many kinds of ovarian cysts, and if it stays the same and still hurts or gets bigger, they'll often want to go in and take it out. Smaller surgery (still hurts, though) with about a week of recovery or so.

They should ultrasound that in a couple of weeks or a month at the most to see what's going on with it.

[ClayZ]

2. Ouch!

I hope you are ok!

[Quantess]

3. Please heal your body the best that you can.

Get back on your feet the best that you can, as soon as you can.

[undergroundpanther]

10. I will

( that is..if my back would quit seizing up and this friggin leg brace would STAY UP!! Grrrr..frustration...yank..These velcro leg braces were made by some ingeniously sadistic or really stupid designer type people damn.)(pfft..1 positive..glad it's in black,it goes with my clothes. It doesn't look as goofy with my freaky style as a dorky barf beige brace would look..sigh.)

[Skittles]

4. you're a good person

you're suffering through a terrible ordeal yet your concern isn't just for yourself, it's for others who may be worse off. Recommended; yes INDEED.

[undergroundpanther]

7. I can't imagine

what someone who fell down 12 stairs would do without MA, trying to find a job, without any safety net whatsoever.
Goddammit why does this world suck so bad ,and why do we let the rich take so much away from all of us,because everyone should at least not have to suffer especially when it is so pointless it's like the banality of evil side of frivolity. Nobody asks to be born here, nobody chooses who their parents are. Why should the few rich people get treated so much better than the rest of us for? They are no better than us.They deserve the same as us.

Maybe the reason rich people don't care about anyone else is because they are so well cared for.
Maybe if we stopped giving and caring about what the rich people think, or would say or do,we might be better off for it.
We are under no obligation to shield the rich from the results of their own insatiable greed and desire for more control and less responsibility.

[Skittles]

11. I hear you

the plight of the poor and despairing makes me ill and all of us can see ourselves in the same boat - hence our extreme empathy towards them. Rich folk simply, for the most part, cannot do that.

[undergroundpanther]

18. They can care some of the rich can

But they CHOOSE not to. The richie's create elaborate "philosophical" rationalizations and justifications for not caring and they call themselves elites rather than let their heart grow tender twords us "useless eaters".
Read some of the rich man's philosophical tripe like Leo Strauss, or Vogelen or Ayn Rand,or some other rightward leaning"thinkers" it all ends up ultimately saying in many flowery words, basically use up and fuck over the poor.

Here is something I wrote about that...
http://www.unknownnews.org/060502a-Panther.html
http://www.unknownnews.org/050607a-Panther.html

[lligrd]

6. Yikes, Our Xray Technicians Must Be Relatives

I went to the hospital (HMO) after a serious fall that left me in a great deal of pain when walking (or moving). After a horrendous wait in the emergency room, they sent me to xray in a wheelchair.

First the xray technician tried to xray my arm (it hurt too) but became exasperated because I couldn't lay it flat. Then the guy made me get up on the table and despite my struggle offered no help. Then he insisted I lie on my side. I tried but couldn't. I was mortified when he actually yelled at me that he didn't have time for this.

He finally went in to use the phone (I guess to complain about me). I guess he looked at the xrays while he was in there because he came out apologizing and saying they shouldn't have sent me in there like that. He immediately (and anxiously) called for a bed to be brought in. (Now I figure I must be dying, if this guy is being nice.) Turned out I had broken my pelvic bone in 2 places.

In ER they gave me a shot of morphine and a set of crutches and released me. (hey said there isn't much they can do for broken pelvic bones and didn't even ask if I had someone to help me at home. I did but they didn't ask.) I told them I couldn't use the crutches because my arm hurt. Two weeks later, my own doctor sent me to get my arm xrayed again and found I had fractured it too.

The last time I seriously injured myself I refused to go to the hospital knowing I would just be tortured further there. So much for the world's greatest health care.

[undergroundpanther]

8. Damn

Well at least you got some morphine. I hope they sent you home with painkillers..Incompetant Fuckers.

[lligrd]

9. Morphine Didn't Do Much But Make Me Tired

And they did send home some codeine but the experience was dreadful. To give him some credit, the xray technician did come in again later and apologize. I hope he learned something from it. It made me wonder if people often fake injuries or something though I can't imagine anyone wanting to spend time in ER.

Hope you are feeling better.

[undergroundpanther]

13. Faking?

How could anyone AFFORD to fake it these days?
Anyways one of the ER nurses when I couldn't cope with the restraints and began abreacting,and trying to suppress panic she acted like my reaction to restraints was all fake. I warned them about my issues with being tied down a few times but nooo they didn't listen.After I had a panic attack,and tried to get myself freed ..This one nasty nurse came back and said.. I was looking at your chart,Which means she saw my psych background and she thought I was faking or being hysterical. Of course dammit it never would occur to someone like her that all I wanted was my arms and legs freed because I can't cope with restraints..No she has to have her damn opinions and snot...aaargh..She really pissed me off with her haughty, assuming, snarky additude..

Sekhmet forbid you wind up in Upper Chesapeake hospital as a psych patient. They will treat you even more like dirt than they treat patients with physical issues.How do I know this because I was admitted for physical issues first and they treated me differently then one time in there for psych and they have been worse ever since.Fuckers.

There has been a distinct change in how I am treated there after they found out my psych background and that I am transgendered . They are bigots..Be careful, there seems to be a lot of stigma floating around ER's these days.

My ex is going to be an x ray tech,he was interning and a schizophrenic woman came in the techs were laughing at her behind her back. He just made a comment to them to stop it. The teacher did nothing. Maybe this is why so many techs end up being so callous. I dunno.

I said to my ex, If I was there I would have bit off their heads and shit down their throats. Goddammit. I am sick of ignorant ass stigmas in ER's. I am sick of techs treating certain people like shit.WTF is wrong with these "professional" people?

[lligrd]

16. I Just Can't Imagine Ever Treating Anybody That Way

I know I never would and can't imagine why others would. I pay for my insurance and it is no better. I forgot to add how the ER doctor patted me on the head after I was finally lowered into the wheelchair screaming. Patted me on the head like i was 6 friggen years old. UGH!

[lligrd]

17. And I Forgot Another Thing

Turns out they had a new incentive to not admit you. If you use the ER services and don't get admitted they now get to charge you $50. So, the rush to get me out, I guess. Not that I minded, I wanted to get the heck out of there as fast as possible even in pain.

[Ms. Toad]

34. It's even worse,

They can send you up to the regular floor of the hospital, so you think you are admitted, (no $50 charge), then call it a watch without really admitting you and charge you the $50 ER charge + the normal room charge you would have gotten if you had actually been admitted.

(Although I fought that one, and won, it did take a fight!)

[knitter4democracy]

38. Grrrrroooowwwrrrrrr!!!!

There are so many things wrong with that story that I don't even know where to start. So. Damn. Wrong. That's the kind of thing that makes me get all mama-bear on everyone. It's also why our family rule is that no one goes to the ER alone or without Hubby available by cell (or right there, if he's home or rounding in the hospital already).

I saw what they were thinking of my mom when we had to take her to the hospital during her psychotic break. I had to actually get in a few staffpeople's faces to get her taken care of, which I did. Hubby'd trained there, for goodness's sake, and it was a slow Sunday morning, but that didn't make them move any faster until they knew I was one pissed off doctor's wife. I shouldn't even had to pull that.

No arm x-ray for a fall and arm pain? WTF? A nasty radiology tech? What is it with that? I had a horrible one once (tried to get her license taken away, and it turned out they aren't licensed in my state), and it was just plain awful.

[me b zola]

14. Hugs to you, Panther

I have really suffered under the medical care for profit system too. Back in 1990 I was in collage, raising my son by myself, and caring for both of my parents--my father was dying of cancer and mom had numerous health issues that required care. I was receiving assistance from the government including medical coverage. Rational and compassionate people would not have considered me a blight upon society. But the doctor's office that I ended up at did....

I was having unusual pains that I now know to be from my ovaries. I searched for a GYN to see me, but every doctor that I called said that they were "already at their limit" for Medicaid. Finally I called the teaching hospital in Columbia MO and got an appointment. I was ushered into the examination room and told to get into a gown. While I was undressing the nurses stood outside of my door speaking loud enough to make sure that I heard, "...well, my sister was a single mother and she worked to pay her way through collage...". It was undeniable the disdain that they held for me. Then the doctor came in and after asking me a few questions, without giving me a physical exam, tore off a script for menstrual cramps--then she was gone. I tried to tell her that it had nothing to do with my periods, but she couldn't be happier to get rid of me. I felt like a piece of shit--they made sure that I felt that way--and I left.

Fast forward to the year 2000. I could actually feel something in my abdomen that was not right. I went to a clinic and long story short they found an ovarian cyst slightly larger than a large grapefruit. I know now that it began growing 10 years earlier, but that fucker in Missouri never took the time to do her fucking job, she was too busy hating me because I was poor.


I hope that you insist upon good medical care. I know it's not easy when the system is set up to neglect those of us without deep pockets. It makes me sick to hear some people on this board complain that people like you and me are trying to instigate class warfare when they cannot open their eyes and see that class warfare has been declared--a long time ago--on people like us.



Best wishes and healing thoughts, zola :hug:

[Raksha]

15. I was worried about you when you didn't post for a couple of weeks.

It looks like there was something to worry about after all! I'm so sorry to hear about your ordeal, but at least now you seem to be up to sitting at your computer for a little while anyway.

Have you been keeping up with what's been happening with the SCHIP program? That's the children's health care program. It passed both houses of Congress but Bush vetoed it (of course), but it looks like they probably have enough votes to override his veto. It's not a universal health care program or anything close but it's a start anyway.

[undergroundpanther]

20. Schip

Yeah Bush the pig fucker he vetoed it. Asshole.
Rich little psychopaths never have to grow up or care or suffer. Oh How I wish he would choke on a pretzel and choke.
Everyday I find another reason to despise the comfortable and un compassionate.
I have a gut feeling that even tho some republicans are pissed at the veto they ain't gonna really stand up for poor people.They won't care until they HAVE to. The rich really do not care about the poor usually not until they lose money and might become poor themselves and sadly that does not happen often enough.
Yeah I have lurked some on DU made some small posts here and there . The first few days of that week or so I was busy doing shit, but than I fell and that kept me off line awhile.
But I am back. Thank you for being there. Hey at least I wasn't renditioned. (I know not funny).

[Raksha]

22. I was just looking for a link to make sure you don't miss this story,

although you may know about it anyway. It's healthcare-related...SCHIP-related, in fact. I think this "Top 10 Conservative Idiots" link has all the information. You won't have to scroll down far because the Freepers made #1 this week, "Sick Wingnuts." It's all about how they trashed a 12-year-old kid named Graeme Frost and his family for having the gall to have catastrophic medical bills on a moderate income.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x314510

Re I have a gut feeling that even tho some republicans are pissed at the veto they ain't gonna really stand up for poor people.They won't care until they HAVE to.

I think enough of them will stand up for it this this time, but it isn't because they've suddenly grown any compassion in their evil little hearts. It's because the program has such broad-based popular support they are worried about getting booted in the next election if they don't override the veto. They were only a few votes short of a veto-proof 2/3 the last time anyway.

[Swamp Rat]

19. .

:hug:

[undergroundpanther]

21. Hey Swamp!

You furry rat thing. This is one cat that loves rats.Swamp rats and real life rats both.. Thanks ,and whiskery hugs back at cha!

[orleans]

23. oooch ouch! what a thing for you to go through. take good care.

enjoy the pain killers while you have them

jonathan turley was on randi's show this past week and he was on pain killers with a fucked up back.

he laughed and said something about never having gotten the chance to do them in collage.

the way he spoke you never would have guessed that he was actually comfortably numb.

[midnight]

24. O what an awful experience....I think going to an E.R is one of the

worst things a person in pain can go through. But what could you have done? Some one here posted a release from the Institutes of Health, and the Doctors are given a very bad review. Too many unnecessary deaths Blah Blah Blah. You know from your own experience why so many unnecessary deaths are happening. They sent you home with a fractured knee. Ouch!!!!!!

[blondie58]

25. (((Underground Panther))))

I have also wondered where you have been. I seek out your posts as i enjoy reading them- and I have learned so much from you. What an ordeal to endure- but you are strong. This will get better. Please take care of yourself and heal fast.

[lonestarnot]

26. Damn. So sorry you had to go through all that crap.

Taking advantage of the frail, injured, weak, sick is about the worst part of a class war. Did you lodge any complaints? :hug:

[Generic Other]

27. OMG take care of yourself

I fell in January on icy steps on my butt, but I had a lump and the hugest bruise I ever saw in my life. The lump never went away. Take time to heal. And be glad you are still alive...I know what it feels like to watch yourself fall knowing it's gonna hurt way before it does...

GET WELL SOON!!!

[kickysnana]

28. Having MA is sometimes worse than no insurance here's why:

I was sitting in an oral surgeons office awaiting an extranction. This oral surgeon had just opened up to medical assistance. A fellow came in and begged for help. He was grey with pain and sweating.

He also had an abcessed tooth and had been at the oral surgeon in another building across the street. He had had the surgery scheduled for that morning and he had to stop his heperin he used for severe clotting days before in order for them to do the proceedure. When he got there the dentists officethat morning had changed their mind and told them they could not do the proceedure. He was offering to pay in full. He had called friends and family to come up with the money and his cell phone was now dead.

The doctor came out to speak with him personally and told him that it was a "preapproved" proceedure in his office and that if he took the man's cash he when the man was signed up for MA that his office would be excluded from the program completely and the appeal costly and it cost him money for each MA patient he took so he couldn't afford any legal fees. He suggested talking to his oral surgeon again.

I don't know if it helped but all those emergencies used to be handled pro bono at the U of MN but they started charging and their client load had still exploded so they were always swamped, overbooked and now selective. There is ONE hospital in the twin cities who has an oncall oral surgeon resident and they do take MA walk in dental emergencies. A family member had had a similar situation so I had heard of it so I gave him the name of the hospital and he was calling them when I went in for my surgery. Obviously even my oral surgeon was unaware of the small loophole. Minnesota was at one time tops for medical care and compassion. Until Pawlenty decided we should model ourselves after Florida.

[REP]

29. Having insurance doesnt make them more competent

I have private insurance and have received some horrible, life-threatening " care" for serious medical conditions. Not being poor doesnt mean you get treated any better in the ER.

[Vektor]

30. I'm so sorry to hear about this. Please know - some of us in health care...

...do care about our patients, and are in this to help and heal.

We're always stressed out, and usually over worked and understaffed, but that's not your fault. Nobody needed to be nasty to you.

Crossing my fingers for your speedy recovery. :hug:

[CountAllVotes]

31. I had an ovarian cyst

I'd had problems yes, but no one believed me. It was discovered during surgery. It was ready to rupture they told me. They removed the ovary.

They had to do a biopsy of it after wards to make sure it was not cancerous (it could have been!).

Make sure you deal with this problem if you can find a way to do it (do not ignore this please).

I'm sorry to read about your fall. I fell down a flight of stairs myself but I was a lot younger than I am now and managed to escape the fall with some bruises only (I was damn lucky).

It seems the older you get, the worse these falls become. I'm glad you didn't break something!

As for your experience with the medical profession, it sounds atypical to me.

I'm off right now to take my spouse to the oral surgeon to have some teeth extracted. They want the money UP FRONT before they'll even touch him. It is absolutely maddening I must admit.

I hate these fuckers as much as you do undergroundpanther! :argh:

Hang in there and get well soon!!!

:dem: :kick:

[knitter4democracy]

39. Ovarian cysts can really, really hurt.

Especially when they rupture. *shudder* Bad things. Good thing they caught yours.

[JuniperLea]

32. That sucks, UP...

So sorry to hear of your ordeal! I think I must have been restrained in a past life or something, because I go berserk when restrained now.

:hug:

Take care of yourself.

[Sock Puppet]

35. why on earth did they put you in restraints?

That makes absolutely no sense to me.

[knitter4democracy]

36. That is really, really bad. I'm so very sorry.

So very wrong, too. You have a collar on, and you're supposed to move yourself? I don't think so. They hadn't ruled out spinal fracture yet, so you shouldn't have been moved. I know after my surgery, they did that whole "move on one-two-three" thing (most pain I've ever felt in my life).

You deserve better care than that. Don't even get me started on the radiologist saying you were good to go when he hadn't read all of the films. Grrrrr! You deserve golden care, not dirt care. The restraints thing? Beyond bad. Anyone would've freaked out.

Gentle :hug: from me. Make sure to keep moving and stretching or those muscles will seize up. Ask me how I know. *sigh* Be gentle with yourself.

[AuntPatsy]

40. My sister in law is having similar problems without insurance she had a hard time

getting some help for her broken arm even though she offered to pay cash, your right in that most dentists will not take new patients without good insurance unless it is little things like cleaing teeth and filling cavities....

Its been a week and though her arm is still broke she has yet to get proper medical care, she went again this am to the only hospital in town that has to take everyone, she got another prescrip for pain meds and another appt in several days to have a proffessional look at the exrays they took...

Meanwhile she is still in as much pain as when she first broke it...amazing medical system we have that care so much about people.

Sorry to hear of your pain....

My daugther even though she has insurance and was told she has a csyt on her ovary has yet to have that cyst tested to ensure it is not cancerous, they haven't even taken blood work yet...the system is what you make it, sadly you yourself have to demand things be done these days.


I almost died christmas day because even though I have insurance I was sent home from the hospital the day before because though I was in severe pain they could not find the cause. even my family began to suspect that I was somehow faking it since I had been having pain for over a year and through numerous tests none done in the hospital they could find nothing wrong...

christmas morning after putting in the turkey I collapsed in severe agony and begged my family to call an ambulance, I hate doctors and rarely have gone so having gone so much in the year before one would assume I was not faking this pain that would come and go.

I was immediately prepped for surgery upon entering the hospital, fully awake they put the tubes down my nose and throat and began setting up the iv, apparently my lips by that time were blue and I was as white as a ghost...

My stomach had a hole in it which is what they found upon opening me up....these days they just don't honestly listen to the patients because they are too scared of lawsuits and the like....

I resent that they ignored me for so long and that I missed christmas and new years with my family because they could not take the time to find out why I was in so much pain so they believed my pain to be made up, I just don't understand the medical field these days.

My cousin with cancer was given a pile of oxycotin and xanux and sent home instead of being put in a hospital because he didn't have insurance, he was dead six days later alone in his apartment apparently dying in his sleep and believe it or not he didn't even appear that sick, he was found the next day when he failed to answer our calls and we sent the police to his apartment to break in for us....


Sure this country cares about life..ahemmmmm......