GALLUP: Even After Nobel Prize -- Public Not Urging Gore to Run for Prez

[Harper_is_Bush]

GALLUP: Even After Nobel Prize -- Public Not Urging Gore to Run for Prez

By E&P Staff

Published: October 16, 2007 1:20 PM ET

NEW YORK A new Gallup poll, conducted this past weekend after former Vice President Al Gore was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, shows only a slight bump in Gore's favorable rating and no "large groundswell" for him to run for president, Gallup reports.

It adds: "He remains in third place and his support is no better know than it has been throughout much of this year." But: "Americans are more inclined to say Gore deserved to win the Nobel Peace Prize than to say he did not deserve to win it."

The Oct. 12-14 poll found 58% saying they have a favorable view of Gore, up from 50% in the prior reading taken in August. That is Gore's best in any Gallup Poll since September 2000.

But this does not translate into run-Al-run.

Gallup reveals:
"Just 41% of Americans say they would like to see Gore run for president, with the majority, 54%, opposed to a Gore candidacy. That is essentially the same result that Gallup found in March,
when 38% expressed a desire for a Gore presidential bid. Even Democrats seem tepid to the idea of Gore running for president -- just 48% favor such a move while 43% are opposed.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003658908

I think this has a lot to do with the public appreciating the role he's performing right now.

He's done amazing work fighting global warming, that cannot be denied.

[CoffeeCat]

1. "He remains in third place"....

...and he's not even running!

Why does this poll and the story behind it---seem desperate to quell the
growing excitement of a Gore run?

Think about it...only "41 percent would like to see Gore run for pResident". What if
you asked that question about Donald Trump or Robert F Kennedy Jr? Most people would not
be inclined to say that they would like to see them run, because they're not candidates.
People don't view them as candidates yet. It's easier to say "no".

I don't know what is going on with all of the polls these days, but I swear--many
seemed to have rigged numbers and an agenda!

A reporter could have easily written this article with the headline, "Gore not even
running for President, but he's in third place beating the majority of Dem presidential
candidates!"

Gore's favorables are higher than Hillary's...and he's not even running! Another truthful headline
that was SOMEHOW overlooked.

There is no doubt that there is a groundswell for Gore. It feels as if some
people are panicking a bit and playing games.

[Cha]

4. The m$$m hate

the idea of Gore leading our country and will do anything in their power to make sure that doesn't happen.

[Harper_is_Bush]

5. You're calling the story and the poll "desperate"?

"Why does this poll and the story behind it---seem desperate to quell the
growing excitement of a Gore run?"

Dude, that is some fucked up paranoia right there.

[CoffeeCat]

7. You can take these polls numbers...

...and skew them into a pro-Gore story, easily.

As I stated, the poll reveals that when people ask who they support for
President, Gore is the #3 vote getter, and he's not even running.

That's totally amazing! Is their any other politician out there who is NOT
running for President, who is finishing in the top 5? I'm laughing here,
because there is so much support for him, it's a phenomena.

However, the reporter decided to slant it the other way.

You can call me paranoid if you want. I simply noticed that the poll
results could have easily garnered a pro-Gore story about the groundswell
that is gathering for him. However, the story is about people not wanting
Gore to run for President---even though he's not running and the #3 choice!

LOL!!

I was a reporter for a while. You can do a lot with statistics. Given the
MSM's kow towing to the establishment and Bush--it is not so outrageous to
suggest that the media are colluding to throw cold water on Gore support. He
would dismantle the neocon agenda, do you think they want that?

The neocon thugs steal elections and start illegal wars. They kill millions
of people and they go about their days without a second thought. Are you actually
telling me that it's paranoia to suggest that this band of sociopaths is planting
polls or stories that negatively position a candidate who would destroy their
warmongering plans?

[Horse with no Name]

14. "some people" are TERRIFIED of a Gore run

it would be a landslide and I pretty much think that this election would NOT be stolen from him.

[Harper_is_Bush]

33. He's the #3 vote getter AMONG DEMS. A significant qualifier that you left out....

...and it makes the numbers a little less than "totally amazing".

In answer to your question, now you're stating it differently. You're suggesting the poll and story could be a plant by "neocon thugs". You never specified who you were suggesting was "desperate" to try and "quell" a Gore run before.
Now that you have, I would say not only is it paranoid, it's short-sighted. Obviously the neocon-thugs are capable of much, but this poll is simply what it is.

[Junkdrawer]

9. Nah, I see the desperation in the pro-Hillary camp. n/t

[Harper_is_Bush]

16. A little off-topic...but why do you see desperation in that camp? They're ahead....

...so, your comment makes little sense.

In truth, the anti-Hillary camp is coming across as desperate around here. Their atacks have become shrill and perosnal. It's a shame.

[Junkdrawer]

21. Al is probably the best chance to deny Hillary the nomination...

or at least to put a cloud over her nomination.

[Harper_is_Bush]

22. So, the pro-Hillary camp is attacking Al Gore, is that your take on it? n/t

[Junkdrawer]

24. You bet. Look at the posts a few days before and after the Nobel prize...

Comes through loud-and-clear.

[Harper_is_Bush]

27. Can you show me an example please? Just one or two.

[Junkdrawer]

30. Off the top....and I'm calling it a night...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2010362

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2035507

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2034048

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3607448

[Harper_is_Bush]

32. The second topic you provided is the only one that could be called an attack on Gore.

And God knows what motivated it. Was it a pro-Hillary move? Maybe.

I don't want Gore to run myself, but it has nothing to do with Hillary. It's purely for selfish reasons related to global warming. Many people out there are in the same boat as me.

[Warren DeMontague]

40. Beyond that, try searching the archives. They're your friend.

If you've got the time to waste on this, that is.

[Kurovski]

25. Waiting for your response to twosparkles, H_I_Bush.

[Bicoastal]

2. Let's look it at this way.

Right now, Gore can work for the environment unhindered by partisan politicans. But if he became president...

But if he became president, global warming suddenly becomes a firmly Democratic issue--and if the Democrats were to lose credibility, global warming would lose credibility.

Let's not drag the environment into Washington; as a non-politician, he's in a much better position to save the world right now.

[Harper_is_Bush]

6. I tend to agree with you. Well put. n/t

[CoffeeCat]

13. I applaud Gore for his hard work....

...and for his brilliant speeches that help everyone to understand
global warming.

However, you can make the world understand--but if there are thugs in the
White House who control the agenda--then global understanding and awareness
of your issue is sadly---almost inconsequential.

Bush wiretaps us illegally. He tortures in our name. He is dismantling
our Constitution. He cares about no one and nothing, and he sure as hell
isn't going to sign onto legislation that will force his precious big
corporations into environmental regulations. No way. You think Bush
gives a damn what "We the People" think? He's excited about the ice cap
melting, because it means he'll have more land on which to ride his mountain
bike.

Gore can increase awareness and understanding, but the next logical step
would be to get into a position where you have the power to affect real change.
He's all ready made the case. Gore created a bully pulpit for himself and
we're all on board. Now, all he has to do is slip into the West Wing and
begin to change things.

Nothing will change, as long as the neocons have the power--and the Democrats
in power continue to act like pussies.

Gore will be most effective converting his ideas and policies into reality---from
the most powerful position in the world---the Presidency of the United States.

Makes you want to belt out "God Bless America" from the top of a mountain, doesn't it?

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

15. Oh Geez, Not The "Environment" Argument

Are you serious?

THE ENVIRONMENT IS A DEMOCRATIC ISSUE!! The repubs don't give 2 Shits about Global Warming! Are you fucking kidding me?

I don't care whether Al running makes it a Democratic party issue. IT'S THE RIGHT ISSUE, and if Al is in the race, it will be discussed.

If you think that Hillary is going to raise it at any point, I've got a bridge to sell ya.

[RestoreGore]

44. Al Gore trained Republicans throughThe Climate Project

Why do you think Evangelicals are pulling away from the Bush crowd? They see it as well. This crisis is not a political issue and will not be mitigated unless we embrace all sides about it. If you are unwilling to do that, then you only exacerbate the problem.

[mod mom]

45. Ah I think the globe is past the point of thinking climate crisis is a partisan issue.

[Uncle Joe]

50. Well it seems Mother Nature is currently in a Democratic frame of mind.

The South and West are suffering from record droughts, the longer that goes on, the more self-evident it will become to the people. Al Gore doesn't have to make the case anymore, it's becoming too large for the media to hide.

I believe the combination of the droughts and Al Gore winning the Nobel Peace Prize will only send his popularity upward, the draft Gore movement is taking off and that's why the media are in such a panic mode to misrepresent what he says regarding the Presidency and spin negative light on positive polls.

[RestoreGore]

3. He surpasses a president now

And I honestly do not understand the obsession with the presidency in this country. Is this a democracy or an aristocracy? But more importantly, if his heart is truly not in it, begging him at this point to me is simply a waste of time that could be spent supporting his good efforts. He is going to India next month to train young people and empower them regarding this crisis and in seeking solutions and will be expanding training to South America, China, and I hope Africa in time, and that is important urgent work. Yet, here and on other "blogs" it is not even noticed or recognized. How can you support this man without even caring about what he cares about? I will never get that. Even Mr. Gore has stated that politics does bad things to good people. He has now found a way to go around politics to influence policy and events globally and is now a leader not only because of the Nobel, but because people can see how sincere and passionate he is regarding addressing this crisis. And that certainly IS positive.

[Kurovski]

10. Do you vote?

I'm wondering, do you even vote? For anything?

You don't, do you? Are you even registered to vote?

[RestoreGore]

18. That's none of your business

And has nothing to do with my reply. Good attempt at diversion though.

[Kurovski]

26. Yeah.

Many things in your posts have led me to believe that you don't vote. This one cinched it.

[RestoreGore]

34. Sure. You can't respond to the post so you attack me.

I do my duty as an American citizen even though IT DOESN'T %^%^%#$ COUNT unbeknownst to people who live with their heaads in the clouds. But again, that has nothing to do with my response in this thread regarding Mr. Gore surpassing a president, which I suppose you disagree with... which isn't surprising since most of the syncophants here don't seem to see him as anything but their "product" anyway. Now back off.

[Kurovski]

35. Mr. Gore has no where near the power

that a President Gore would have.

Come down from that cloud you float around on RG. C'mon, slowly now, that's it...careful. Don't stub your toe.

[RestoreGore]

42. Right. And you are living in a fantasy if you think that

Good bye.

[Kurovski]

43. You say goodbye and I say hello

Hello, hello...:D

[Harper_is_Bush]

19. What the hell is that? Why are you attacking that poster in that manner?

You Hillary-haters have absolutely lost your minds.

[Name removed]

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[Kurovski]

37. That's the best you can do?

:shrug:

[mod mom]

46. Folks are on DU that are against Hillary-don't hate her, but hate her ties to corporations,

lobbyists and dubious "associates" (think of the scoundrels Mark Penn, James Carville and let us not forget everyone's favorite DLCer Joe LIEberman, for example). We just don't think she is good for this country as president.

Now who is the one "attacking the poster" I do believe your incination of both "Hillary Hater" and "absolutely lost your mind" are examples of attack, while questioning whether someone actually votes, is not.

[Kurovski]

47. "Hillary Hater" is the new "Why do you hate America"?

Know what I mean, Vern? :-)

[Marr]

8. "Just 41% of Americans"? What percentage of the public voted for GW?

[Junkdrawer]

11. Booga Booga...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2061642&mesg_id=2061642

[Kurovski]

17. Booga Booga, part II,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2061194

[DemGa]

12. Pretty good numbers for someone who's not even running....

yet.

[Harper_is_Bush]

31. I don't think the fact that he's not running plays all that much, since the hype of him running

has been shoved down America's throat for quite a while now.

[shireen]

20. polls can be designed to say anything

before i believe those conclusions, i want to see the questions. I want to know how the respondents were selected. How those numbers were determined. Unless there's an overwhelming majority leaning one way or another, there's no way I'll accept their conclusions without taking a hard look at the raw data.

[Octafish]

23. '41-percent of Americans' is '90-percent of Democrats.'

That's what I figure, anyway. And my guess is as good as Gallup's. Any day.

[mod mom]

49. Octafish, you're modest. Your guess is worth way more that Gallups.

:hi:

[Bjorn Against]

29. 41% is a LOT of people.

Gallup is spinning this one big time. When 41% support another person getting in the race when the field is already very crowded is a huge deal. That poll looks incredibly favorable to Gore, how anyone could claim otherwise is beyond me. As one poster mentioned above, for a person who is not even running right now to already be in third place is an enormous accomplishment.

[SergeyDovlatov]

36. Is it a poll? or an instruction not to run?

[StarryNite]

38. They're full of shit!

Gore would win. Again.

[Warren DeMontague]

39. Either he'll run, or he won't. We'll know soon enough. Obviously, some are still deeply threatened

by the mere thought of him running, though.

Well, it is almost Halloween.



Boo!

[JTFrog]

41. Who do they talk to?

They've never talked to me. So sick of flippin polls at this point. They mean nothing to me.

[Cronopio]

48. "He's done amazing work fighting global warming ..."

Yeah, being in a position to officially create US support for Kyoto wouldn't help the cause at all.

Too bad the 41% *of those polled* seem to see it that way. Keep the oil company frat boys in charge - we can trust 'em.