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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:41 PM
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Michael Savage says "illegals" causing staph infections...
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 11:45 PM by TwoSparkles
You have to hear and see this to believe it and before you discount Savage as an inconsequential
nut job--please realize that 10 million people tune into his show every week.

Today on his radio program, Savage insisted that new, deadly, drug-resistant forms of staph are coming into the United States on the bodies of immigrants from Mexico.

Here is a direct excerpt from his Web site, "(drug-resistant staph infections) are being brought into emergency rooms by the millions of illegal aliens who use our hospitals for primary care. Doctors, nurses and others then spread these "germs" throughout the hospital. And, of course, when illegals visit their relatives in the wards they also spread the gift that keeps on giving, drug-resistant staph infections. This is my own theory. I have an earned Ph.D. in epidemiology and human nutrition from the University of California, Berkeley (1978).

I heard Savage talking about this on his radio program and I was absolutely stunned. He
described these "illegals" as "spreading disease" and "causing the latest deadly outbreaks".
He also described these illegal aliens as having "filthy, dirty hands" and he further
depicted them as disease-saturated people. You could practically see the dirt and grime that
he envisions on these people!

We should all worry about his rhetoric. A perverted, hateful distortion of
Hispanics and immigrants in general--is being perpetuated. Combine this hate speech with
the fact that our government is "rounding up" these people and then detaining them for long periods
of time, in camps. Meanwhile, Savage suggests that they are dirty and spreading deadly disease all over the country.

Let's not be so afraid to "play the Hitler card" that we don't call out this fear mongering,
hate mongering and perverse distorting for what it is. This is the kind of hate and disinformation that Hitler spread about the Jewish people. If you can objectify and incite disgust for an entire class or race of people, then others will look the other way when they are rounded up, or start disappearing.

This is an issue that needs our full attention. We need to smack down this vile rhetoric
before it metastasizes.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:44 PM
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1. I'm kicking this, Savage needs sunlight disinfecting.
:kick: MKJ
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:44 PM
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2. Michael Savage IS a staph infection
We need a lot of penicillin.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:52 PM
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7. Nothing short of Gentamicin will work in Savage's case.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:27 AM
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15. Ha! Exactly what I was going to say.
GMTA! :hi:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:44 PM
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3. hard to even comment.
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:47 PM
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4. He needs better proof. His arguement.....
oh right...Savage.
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Perseid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:50 PM
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5. I personally think that
it's a result of antibiotic liquid soaps, and alien beams that managed to penetrate our collective aluminum hats.

It has nothing to do with the massive overprescription of antibiotics over the past 50 years.

Nope.

Aliens who managed to get through our super duper protective hats.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:51 PM
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6. AS AN RN-I CALL BULLSHIT
mY PAIIENTS HAVE HAD NO PRIOR EXPOSURE..i BLAME IT ON STAFFING
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:58 PM
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10. I was hoping that those in the medical community...
would lend their opinions.

I do not understand why staph infections are so prevalent in hospitals.
I understand that many people are ill in the hospital. That's why they
are there. However, why staph? Why is it so rampant in our hospitals?

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:08 AM
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14. it took me 4 weeks to get over a staph infection
that i "received" during an operation.thank god mine was easly treatable compared to other infections. something was`t clean during the operation.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:24 AM
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20. I was on IV antibiotics for an entire summer
from a staph infection after surgery. I don't have many more antibiotics I can use if it happens again.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:31 AM
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16. I know someone who went to have their appendix taken out
He contracted a staph infection and died.
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:00 AM
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11. Not this subject. How do I contact you personally about a past post?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:03 AM
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12. he`s making shit up
it`s tb that`s the problem,immigrants are afraid they will be turned in by the hospital staff. this strain of tb is more virulent than the common ones in the usa. this would`t be a problem if they trusted the medical staff not to report them.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:23 AM
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19. I've wondered about that
I've had two staph infections during the last several years and both happened after being in the hospital. Heh, Bob Dole had been in the same hospital at the time I was there and had also gotten an infection from his surgery.

What's going on? How does this happen? How do they fix the problem? Our local hospitals have also had a problem w/ C Diff.

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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:41 AM
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22. C Diff is a bacteria that takes hold after anitbiotics have killed the healthly bacteria in the GI
tract. take supplements or yogurt if you're are going to be on antibiotics for periods of time. Not everyone on them will get c diff, but again the elderly or more ill of us are at higher risk. It is like a yeast infection in women after antibiotics. Same reason. The staph infections shouldn't be happening, but it might be hard to pinpoint where the exposure came from. Unless you were still in the hospital when you became ill, but even then you could have had it before you came in. At any rate there needs to be better hygiene and I bet there will be testing for these things before you even are admitted in the future. Medicare isn't going to pay for extended hospital stays from those staph infections anymore so the hospitals will have to test people to see if they have anything before they even come in.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:56 PM
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8. the right wing racist shit pays more than the left`s message ...
actually the problem is drug resistant tb that because the "illegals" are afraid to get medical treatment. i can`t believe that any self respecting advertiser would pay him to say this shit...
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:57 PM
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9. Oh sure, because illegal people have so much money
they can run to the doctor's for every little thing and get antibiotics. Doesn't he know how the viruses got resistant in the first place. I should think they'd come from over-medicated Americans.

Am I wrong?
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:28 AM
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25. And spending time at the gym.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:03 AM
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13. Funny I was just reading about it occuring at a local HS
Mount Lebanon near Pittsburgh, PA. One of the richer neighborhoods in Pittsburgh. One with beaucoup $$$$s football stadium with artificial turf, etc. They've had numerous cases among the football players. I don't think they have any illegals attending there.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:45 AM
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17. He also says that vitamin C cures AIDS
He even put it in one of his 'books'

complete nutjob
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:19 AM
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18. It has been around the hospital for YEARS. The 1st ones that were infected were the patients that
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 07:54 AM by kikiek
had been on dialysis for a long time (I should say that I noticed that were infected). It has been considered hospital acquired, but as people transfer out it goes with them. I would bet the number of people walking around with it is staggering. Healthy people can have it in their nares etc and not be ill. Just because you carry it doesn't mean you're ill. The long term care is probably chock full of it. It is only coming to light because of the recent news article. There is one that is even more resistant called VRE Vancomycin resistant enterococcus. That is also seen mostly in patients that been on dialysis for long periods of time. Unless someone is known to have it they will share a room with another patient. The staff wouldn't even know they have it. To clarify not all people on dialysis have it, but they have been at higher risk than other patients to acquire it.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:31 AM
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21. Uh huh
Must be a lot of those illegal types in NFL locker rooms (MRSA is frequent).
Ana also in the HS cited in the thread I posted earlier..


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2075517



These are schools in wealthy mostly white suburbs...where did these kids get MRSA then from their illeagal gardeners and nannies then?:sarcasm:
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:10 AM
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23. Locals in my area ...
in response to a local newspaper article about MSRA outbreak in the jail - "they deserve it." :eyes:

Glad to be on DU to read thoughtful responses.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:28 AM
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26. That mentality really scares me....
No one "deserves" to become ill.

Prisoners, minorities, immigrants, rich white kids from the 'burbs. Everyone
deserves to be treated with respect and compassion.

That kind of attitude is dangerous. When you have a society that feels that
certain groups of people "deserve" bad things happening to them--then something
is wrong with that society.

Combine that dangerous herd mentality with a corrupt government that can illegally
detain you, deny you a trial and torture you--we're talking lethal. It's a recipe
for a humanitarian catastrophe.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:34 AM
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27. Indeed ...
Some days, it is overwhelming to read so much bile pouring onto pages. Other days, like a trooper, I wade into the swamp.
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:26 AM
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24. Where are illegals getting the antibiotics that created this bug???
They have no medical coverage, and the antibacterial soaps that are contributing to the resistant strains are expensive.

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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:40 AM
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28. "I have an earned Ph.D. in epidemiology and human nutrition..."
Well, according to Wikipedia, his Ph.D. is in nutritional ethnomedicine.

For the unfamiliar, ethnomedicine is, again, according to Wikipedia:

Ethnomedicine is a sub-field of medical anthropology and deals with the study of traditional medicines: not only those that have relevant written sources (e.g. Traditional Chinese Medicine, Ayurveda), but especially those, whose knowledge and practices have been orally transmitted over the centuries.

In the scientific arena, ethnomedical studies are generally characterized by a strong anthropological approach, more than a bio-medical one. The focus of these studies is then the perception and context of use of traditional medicines, and not their bio-evaluation.


So where does this fucking nitwit get off claiming any epidemiological authority?

Or a Ph.D. in epidemiology, for that matter?

:eyes:
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:53 AM
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29. "Diseased, Filthy Aliens"? Unbelievable . . .
Michael Savage -the Julius Streicher of the GOP.

Fucking disgusting.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:03 AM
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30. Correction: The prison industry is causing staph infections
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:19 AM
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32. Jails and prisons inmates, an under served population known by CDC for years.
An article in my archives dated 2001 reports that the Department of Justice estimates approximately 11.5 million people cycle in and out of prisons and jails each year; the majority of them in short jail terms. Most Americans are not aware that a large number of people with non-violent charges sit in local jails "awaiting" trial dates on clogged court dockets.

Interest about prisons as incubators of disease is intermittent. Now, that the same flesh eating bacteria that’s been rampant in jails and prison for years is reaching into community, maybe real preventive measures will became a concern.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:07 AM
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31. well, he's just wrong about that...
MRSA is largely a nosocomial affliction. It's typically connected to contact with hospitals and institutionalized populations. It hasn't really got much to with illegal aliens.

Savage is opportunistically using the fear created by the recent MRSA outbreak to generate politically useful hysteria. And he should be ashamed of himself for that -- very reminiscent of Nazi Party tactics.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:32 AM
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33. Dats right only we'uns use dem washing suds to keeps us cleans.
savage is a fucking racist moron.
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