After Comments, US Terror Chief Resigns

[Postman]

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/10/18/4663/

[Hydra]

1. "If you know what's good for you, you'll step down..."

Three days after Americans saw the Bush administration’s counterterrorism chief say the Iraq war has likely not made the United States safer from terrorism, the official announced his resignation, citing health reasons.

In an e-mail sent to his staff Wednesday afternoon, Adm. Scott Redd, head of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC), said he was stepping down to “take care of some long-delayed surgery that I can no longer neglect.”

Bush still controls the message...disgusting.

[BrklynLib at work]

3. Yeah. "Health reasons". If he didn't quit they would suicide him.

[tom_paine]

9. Or destroy the lives of his children. They also like to threaten that.

remember the Medicare Supplemental Bill?

Now that was just DeLay threatening a starying Bushie with the removal of his' kid's campaign support and ending his political career before it started.

And that was in public and even then the Bushies denied it, as did the victim Bushie who told the story first, then later mysteriously recanted...wonder what they said to him before THAT...we shall never know.

I strongly suspect that Mafia-style threats and the occasional carrying out of stuff like the Antrhax attacks are apallingly commonplace at the highest leevls of the Bushie Tyranny.

And of course, it is possible to destroy someone's life without doing direct violence to them, and I'll bet there is a tremendous amount of that as part of daiy lfie at the Bush Palace.

[BrklynLib at work]

11. That is what is known as "Rovian" politics.

[tom_paine]

15. Also Hitlerian, Stalinian, Marcos-like, of the manner of a Pinochet,

in the way of being like Ferdinand Marcos, somewhat similar to Saddam, a petis pois away from Pol Pot...

[BrklynLib at work]

16. Absolutely the same

[tom_paine]

17. Ummmm...I can't go THAT far. I do not believe that to be true.

Not yet, anyway. And we are still far from being ABSOLUTELY like any of those places becausethe New Totalitarianism, at least in it's beginnings, is kinder and gentler so as to camoflauge itself to a people with 200+ years of tradition of freedom.

And Thank God for that, because we'd probably both be dead as dogshit right now if that WAS the case, or rotting away in some concentration camp or gulag.

No, I can't even come close to agreeing with that statement. Are all of those I mentioned in the same family of totalitarian tyrants with the Bushies, do they use many of the same linguistic and propagandistic tactics as the others? Hell yes!

But in so many ways, importanat ways, they are still very little like those others, violence and numbers of victims being two VERY important distinctions.

OK? Just my 2 cents. I can't go that far in my condemnation.

[BrklynLib at work]

18. They thought they were free...

<snip>
"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

"Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, ‘everyone’ is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there would be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’

"And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.

<snip>

much more at...
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11845.htm

[tom_paine]

19. Preaching to the choir on that one. But they aren't there yet, and that's the fact.

Trust me, you're no alarmist. I just can't agree with that particular statement.

[BrklynLib at work]

20. I am just very scared that we might be letting everything good about this country disappear...

without the struggle and anger that should accompany its demise.
So many people seem so complacent. Britney and Lindsay and all the other inane crap seem to be what occupies the minds of the population...like bread and circus for the people in ancient Rome as it was going down the lead pipes..

[tom_paine]

21. Yep. I share your concern and foresight

And I simply do not think the American People have it in us to resist the Rise of the New Totalitarianism, for many of the same reasons the Germans could not resist Hitler's rise.

But there is always hope...until it gets as bad as all that (the details of the murderous Bushie Final Solutions will be different than the Nazis, because it would be bad PR and marketing strategy to try to rebrand something using the old, discredited brand).

[JerseygirlCT]

13. I was wondering if that explains the need for knee surgery

Were they broken after his comments?

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. "Redd, 63, needed to have both of his knees replaced" New excuse! Here's the article:

After Comments, US Terror Chief Resigns

Three days after Americans saw the Bush administration’s counterterrorism chief say the Iraq war has likely not made the United States safer from terrorism, the official announced his resignation, citing health reasons.1018 04

In an e-mail sent to his staff Wednesday afternoon, Adm. Scott Redd, head of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC), said he was stepping down to “take care of some long-delayed surgery that I can no longer neglect.”

The center serves as an all-source intelligence operation, synthesizing information from the CIA, the Pentagon, the FBI and elsewhere and analyzing the threat of terrorism to the United States.

A spokesman said that Redd, 63, needed to have both of his knees replaced, which would require a long period of rehabilitation during which he could not work.

On Monday, NBC News broadcast an interview with Redd in which he said that the U.S. was “probably” not safer from terrorism today than it was before the 2003 invasion of Iraq. In the longer term, he said, “We’ll wait and see.”

Redd’s comment apparently contradicted an assertion made by President Bush’s top counterterrorism adviser, Fran Townsend, that the terrorist threat “would have been worse” if the United States had not invaded Iraq.

NCTC spokesman Carl Kropf said Redd’s decision to leave was “absolutely not” related to his comments, and that he had not been pressured in any way to step down.

No replacement has been named. When Redd leaves on Nov. 10, he will be temporarily replaced by his deputy until a new director is confirmed, Kropf said.

In a statement released this afternoon, Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell thanked Redd for his service. “I know his decision to step down was difficult,” McConnell said. A spokesman for his office said there was “no pressure whatsoever” on Redd to resign.

[BrklynLib at work]

4. Guess they were both broken in the last few days.

[CJCRANE]

6. In Northern Ireland they used to have a punishment called

"knee-capping".

Sounds like he's been metaphorically knee-capped by Bush-Cheney.

[BrklynLib at work]

12. You betcha.

[Beausoleil]

5. That would be a legitimate concern for any member of the administration

"A spokesman said that Redd, 63, needed to have both of his knees replaced, which would require a long period of rehabilitation during which he could not work."

Obviously he can't work if he can't use his knees.

[monktonman]

7. Perhaps his way of saying he was tired of taking it in the ass? n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. Well, of course...if it's true.

:hi:

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. Telling the truth is verbotten in the Bush Admininstration

[Bonhomme Richard]

10. Surgery for a weak spine that was beginning to heal itself.