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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:09 AM
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Well this is about the saddest story I've read all week
Two years after US soldier's death, widow has his son

<http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071019/sc_afp/usiraqwomenscienceivf>

Obviously it's a great thing that this child was able to be born but it should have been done the old fashioned way. Damn you George Bush. A pox on your house.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:25 AM
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1. Who I gotta fuck to get a rec on this board anymore?
this is the price of the war people on an individual basis. Ain't pretty to consider, but this is why we fight.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:41 AM
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3. You don't even have to fuck me. n/t
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:50 AM
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6. Try this
Title your post "Gore will/will not run and Hillary sucks/doesn't suck and Dem leaders are/are not worthless".
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:40 AM
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2. i wonder how the repukes feel about this kind of thing...?
after all- aren't they always saying how children are supposed to be raised by TWO parents in a loving married relationship?

and personally- i do think that it's kind of a selfish act for the woman to have done this.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:09 AM
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9. I don't think it's selfish
I can completely understand it. I see where you're coming from though.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:42 AM
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4. Interesting tid-bit by the professional... What an asshole.
Little bit of rounding for the story...


A medical professor at the Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences in Washington, who asked not to be named, agreed women who seek to have their late husband's baby are a rarity, and expressed doubt as to whether it was a good idea.

"It's very uncommon. And I don't think it's a good thing, or that it will become more common," he said.

"The problem is regret -- regret is high for those women," he said. "What happens when she meets someone else?"

"The other question is ethical: the guy hadn't planned to die so he didn't say you could use his sperm," the doctor said.

Smith has no regrets, and Benton has also managed to bring round his grandparents, who were initially against their slain son's widow having his baby after his death.

"His mom was against it. But she's wonderful now. She loves her little boy, her grandson," said Smith.

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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:54 AM
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7. I don't think the medical professor is being an asshole.
He or she is doing a good and necessary job providing his or her experience and expertise on the matter. And he or she is being nothing but professional about this.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:07 AM
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8. If it was the right decision for this woman, then it is not up to me t decide
whether or not she should do it... and to have to consider another man's feeling over her having a child alone... FUCK that. If I choose to do that, its my body, my money, and my decisions...

What is it about personal choices and private matters that gives everyone the reason to comment and hold their moral authority over someone else... Get over it. I think it is a touching, loving thing to do. And if she wanted to have a child and hadn't found the right person to re-marry, why not use the man's that she loved... Now, a little joy has come from a painful experience. The family seems to be happy.. So, leave it alone.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:27 AM
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10. Your extreme reaction seems to be to something else entirely.
The medical professor wasn't telling her she can't do it. The medical professor was not telling her to have an abortion, which would more fit your response regarding "my body, my money, and my decision." These are not at issue at all.

In fact, the medical professor never spoke to the fucking woman at all, so far as I can tell. The medical professor was providing expertise and experience to the reporter doing the story regarding when this was done in the past. This isn't being an "asshole," this is him or her doing his or her job.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:45 AM
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11. I have a problem with "experts" providing anything at all. They have
no right to decide what is right or wrong for an individual... which is why I hate the label "expert". The thing I object to is the insinuation that she is somehow tainted for all other men because she is now a single mother. 1/2 the marriages in this world don't work. How many women are raising their children virtually with no help? And how many mother's (or father's for that matter) are raising children by themselves because this war has killed thier spouses. Soap Box experts piss me off. And this is right in line with choice and privacy.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 11:18 AM
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12. Gotcha.
Hey, I like the quote in your signature line. Good words by which to live.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:48 AM
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5. K&R
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