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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:44 AM
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Judge may order White House to recover 'lost' e-mails
Judge may order White House to recover 'lost' e-mails
Nick Juliano
Published: Thursday October 18, 2007


The White House may soon be forced to prove it is not trying to cheat history by destroying archives of untold numbers of internal e-mails, as a federal magistrate has indicated he may enforce a private watchdog's restraining order request.

An ongoing lawsuit is seeking to confirm that White House e-mails that were lost from internal servers can and will be recovered from computer backup tapes. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington says the administration has failed to prove that it is protecting the backups; although officials deny that any tapes were lost, the White House has refused to hand over records backing up that assertion.

U.S. Magistrate John M. Facciola has asked CREW and the Justice Department for suggestions on how to word a court order that would mandate White House compliance, the Associated Press reports.

CREW filed a temporary restraining order earlier this month requesting the White House demonstrate it is preserving e-mails in compliance with the Federal Records Act and the Presidential Records Act. CREW says the White House has only been able to prove it used backup tapes once, although a Justice Department attorney argued such a court order is unnecessary.

The White House Office of Administration, which oversees recordkeeping and archival, has refused to comply with a Freedom of Information Act request for information relating to potentially millions of e-mails that were deleted.

The restraining order stems from a lawsuit demanding the White House hand over records detailing what records were detleted from White House servers.


Rest of article at: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Judge_may_order_White_House_to_1018.html
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:47 AM
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1. K & R for truth
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:10 AM
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2. all your hard drives belong to us
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:11 AM
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3. 'may'?????
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:51 AM
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4. And if the Bushies ever obeyed the words of judges, I would be hopeful.
If the Democrats just wnet after one, just ONE of the Bushie Felons, such as Gonzales, who has already convicted himself of perjury a dozen times over on video tape...THEN I might be more hopeful.

But in Bush-Occupied Amerika, no judge tells Bushler what to do, even if he briefly has to pretend as if they have.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 12:30 PM
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7. Gonzales so carefully parsed his statements that I doubt he committed perjury.
I have not analyzed the text but I'm interested in knowing of any one thinbg he said that could lead to a conviction.

Rarely can perjury be charged for "I do not recall" given such a statement goes to state of mind in a moment. Recalling later is not even evidenciary.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 02:13 AM
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8. You couldn't parse those statements enough to keep from perjuring
I am not a lawyer, and I would love the opinion of one, but I think you know very well that if anyone besides a Inner Circle Bushie had done that, and especially if a Common Amerikan Peasant did that, we would be in jail before the first obvious perjuring had burned onto the videotape.

So let's just say we agree to disagree, and if I see one of my friends who are lawyers I'll try to remember to ask. You, too because I would love to hear the answer form a professional.
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 11:17 AM
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5. "forced to prove" -- ? Who is going to force this criminal administration to do anything?
Hasn't happened yet. Anything goes against them they just steamroll right over it or * has congress change the law to suit them.

I would love to see the rule of law restored.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 12:21 PM
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6. Remind the Secret Service that they serve the Nation, not the President
if the President is doing something illegal ...

There's precedent ... they were forced to testify on record over a blowjob ...
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