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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:03 PM
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Ralph Nader sues Democratic Party

Ralph Nader sues Democratic Party

WASHINGTON - Consumer advocate and 2004 independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader sued the Democratic Party on Tuesday, contending officials conspired to keep him from taking votes away from nominee John Kerry.

Nader's lawsuit, filed in District of Columbia Superior Court, also named as co-defendants Kerry's campaign, the Service Employees International Union and several so-called 527 organizations such as America Coming Together, which were created to promote voter turnout on behalf of the Democratic ticket.

The lawsuit also alleges that the Democratic National Committee conspired to force Nader off the ballot in several states.

"The Democratic Party is going after anyone who presents a credible challenge to their monopoly over their perceived voters," Nader said in a statement. "This lawsuit was filed to help advance a free and open electoral process for all candidates and voters. Candidate rights and voter rights nourish each other for more voices, choices, and a more open and competitive democracy."

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Can the Democratic Party sue Nader? Can Gore?

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:04 PM
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1. Quick...someone get LoZo on the horn!
There's polls to be posted!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:05 PM
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2. Yeah, nader is an
asshole.
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:08 PM
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5. exactly n/t
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Buzz cook Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:05 PM
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3. Thanks again Ralph
Your 2000 gift keeps on giving
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:05 PM
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4. Somebody should sue Nader for taking away votes from Gore in 2000 and giving us Bush
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:09 PM
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6. Gotta love that framing:
Consumer advocate and 2004 independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader sued the Democratic Party on Tuesday, contending officials conspired to keep him from taking votes away from nominee John Kerry.

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:13 PM
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7. Which Democratic Party would that be?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:14 PM
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8. fuck off ralph, i was once a big fan. sue the fucking republicans
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:24 PM
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9. Isn't that what you're supposed to do in elections?
Win? Interesting that this asshole chooses now, just before the start of the 08 election cycle to do this shit. This asshole has just got to be in the headlines. He can't help his self.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:25 PM
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10. Ralphs off his thorazine again...lets hope his supporters aren't. n/t
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:19 PM
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38. Happens every fucking three and a half to four years, it seems
Delusions of being a king maker or just infantile attention junkie? The man has a SERIOUS problem. Cannot stand that it isn't about ralph come the election cycle.

One would hope bush takes ralph (that's right, little r from now on) with him to the Paraguay retirement home for the personality-disorder endowed.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:26 PM
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11. If there was ever an "Attention Whore" it's Nader.
What a loser.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:26 PM
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12. LOL, that's priceless.
Even more priceless is the fact that he just might have a case.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:48 PM
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16. His case is that he should be entitled to as many fraudulent signatures
as he can get. Doesn't seem like a case to me.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:58 PM
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19. Wow, mischaracterizing just a wee bit there?
Frankly both the Republicans and Democrats have conspired together for a long time to keep elections and our political system a two party affair for entirely too long. The entire game has been rigged for one of the two majors to win, yet it amazes me how much people whine and moan when even a couple of percentage points goes somewhere else.

Given the incredible shrinking political gap between the Dems and the 'Pugs, don't be surprised if a third party steps in and plays havoc this election cycle. After all, the anti-war left has essentially been told to fuck off by both parties, why should we stick around?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:27 PM
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13. "a credible challenge to their monopoly over their perceived voters"
What a silly little man.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:28 PM
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14. How in the World can that fuckface sleep knowing he cost America Gore? Instead we got the LOSERMAN
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:53 PM
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18. He WANTED Gore to lose. He made that abundantly clear.
He gloated after Bush's victory. He only loses sleep at the idea that the Dems will come back into power. Then the donations at his foundation may go down.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 06:19 PM
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35. History will NOT have kind words for him....dats fer sure
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:30 PM
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15. Ralph, why the f*ck are you doing this now?


The phrase that begins with an "A" and ends with "whore" comes to mind.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:49 PM
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17. Tra La La....Whoopsie Doopsie.
Could this man just go away.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:58 PM
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20. This Nader who took right wing money with a big smile?
Nader, you need to look in the mirror. Pure is as pure accepts funding.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/33
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:58 PM
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21. It's a lot worse than we thought
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:00 PM
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22. Hey Ralph .... fuck you, you reptile
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:00 PM
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23. Maybe the American people can sue Nader .
does anybody know. Check it out.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:01 PM
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24. For what, exercising his Constitutional right to run for elected office?
Geez, and people think that freepers go overboard sometimes:eyes:
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:02 PM
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25. Nader, please go choke on a lead-painted toy.
You are not useful.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:03 PM
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26. John Dillinger Sues Banks.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:33 PM
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27. Can the country sue Nader for enabling Bush to take office?
And even if we could, there isn't enough wealth on the
planet to repay the damage Bush has done to it. Nader
is looking to keep his name in the headlines.

Too late : it's Ralph Nowhere now.
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:44 PM
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28. Mr. Nader...
You said that the two parties were the same, but you have been proven wrong on that count.
Yes, they share some of the same faults, but you cannot possibly say with a straight face that this country would be in the same place it is now if Mr. Gore had been allowed to enter the White House.

Yes, this country is held in the grip of a two party system.
Yes, it needs to be fixed.

NOW IS NOT THE TIME.

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:51 PM
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30. If not now, when?
When the Democrats have kicked the war on down the road for another five years? When the Dems have approved of another illegal, immoral war on Iran? When the Dems have let the economy be run into the ground?

We are at a pivotal point in our history right now, and the reasons that we got where we are are very much bipartisan reasons, the lovely two party/same corporate master system of government. Continuing down this path, continuing to do the same ol' same ol' will only insure disaster. What is needed in this country right now is real change, not larger doses of what got us into this mess. Face it, if we don't make these changes soon, then we're all in deep shit. So frankly, the time is indeed now.
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 06:00 PM
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33. I completely disagree.
I honestly think that the only people who would vote for a third party candidate right now would not be Republicans.

And we'd have the same mess we had in 2000, because there just wouldn't be enough votes.
A third party candidate would split the vote of all non-Republicans.
A Republican gets into the White House.
The powers that have been voted in to the executive branch for the past 7 years continue and expand.

We won't ever have to worry about third parties again, because there will only be one left - and it ain't us.

Yes, we need a real change.
But its not going to happen in a year.
And its NOT going to happen on Bush's watch.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 06:09 PM
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34. Frankly a lot of people on both sides of the spectrum are pissed
Conservatives and liberals and even centerists. Religious right is threatening a third party run if Guliani gets the nod, the left is threatening to break off if Hillary gets the nod, and the centerists are trying to stitch it all together with their own third party, the Unity party.

Sorry, but putting off change simply means that more people die, our situation gets worse, our economy crashes, etc. etc. I fully realize that our governmental system was designed to be incrementalist, things happen slowly. However we have slowly, and surely painted our country into a corner we might not get out of, and frankly the only answer does not lie in the politics of the incremental, but in real politics of change. I'm sure that the Whigs were saying the same thing about the Republicans when they first came on the scene. However the Republicans capitalized on the large levels of discontent, swept aside the Whigs and put a man into the White House all within four years. Thus, as you see, serious change doesn't mean that the 'Pugs would retain power, it means just what I said, serious, radical change and with a quickness.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:48 PM
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29. Okay, it's official.
Nader sucks. I was in Oregon in '04, which is one of those states he failed to get on the ballot. He didn't get enough signatures - by a lot. You don't get much more Left than Portland, so there's proof positive that Nader was a nonstarter that election.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:52 PM
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31. Interesting timing. This must make Repubs pretty happy. nt
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:56 PM
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32. Go......Away........
Oh, it must be one year out from a presidential election....and of course it is Halloween...so Ralph comes out again to say BOO

Ralph....listen carefully...

No One Gives a rat's ass about you anymore

Deal with it dickhead. It sucks when you make every effort to prove your own irrelevance.

Oh BTW - did ya forget he all inclusive part of the Republicans? You think they did NOTHING as far as suppressing votes for candidates? Ralph...did you just crawl out from under a rock? Yeah, I think you did.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 06:26 PM
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36. Is he suing the Rethugs, too? After all, there's NO DIFFERENCE!1 n/t
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 06:44 PM
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37. So true...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:44 PM
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39. Ralph just needs to step away from the EGO-MATIC! Go away, Ralph!
Yes, his ass should be sued for the hell we are living through now. The nerve of that ass.
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