Whatcha gonna do, Mr. Gore?

[Caro]

Zogby Poll: Al Gore Leads Top Tier Dems in 'Blind Bio' Poll
When Democratic likely voters were given brief biographical descriptions of the top three Democratic candidates … along with the biography of Gore, the former Vice President won 35% support, while Clinton won 24%, Obama won 22% and Edwards trailed with 10% support… A separate Zogby Interactive survey also conducted last week shows Gore’s overwhelming favorability among Democrats – 92% gave Gore a positive rating

'Draft Gore' takes its campaign to TV: Ad to run on CNN and in N.H.
Saying there's still time for him to get into the presidential race, the Draft Gore campaign tomorrow starts airing its first television ad urging former vice president Al Gore to make another run at the White House. Called "Imagine," the 30-second spot is due on CNN and New Hampshire's WMUR-TV.
Click here to watch the ad.

So tell us, Al. What are you going to do?

OK, Al Gore, Don’t Run; But for God’s Sake, Do Speak Out (by Andrew Bard Schmookler at NoneSoBlind.org)
NOW IS THE TIME, GOOD MAN, TO COME TO THE AID OF YOUR COUNTRY… (I)f you are not going to run for the presidency, the alternative is for you to provide America –now, before that election– with the kind of moral leadership that transcends partisan politics. The first step toward doing that is to make that Shermanesque statement you’ve thus far refrained from doing: Go beyond “I have no plans to run” to “I will not run for president in 2008; if elected I will not serve.”

Posted by:
Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

[orleans]

1. it's time he tells us without being vague, it's time he says yes or no

without leaving any doubt as to what he means or is implying.

it's time, al.

what's it gonna be?

[shadowknows69]

5. "I have no plans to run for office"

Notice the usage of the word NO. He's not running.

[JackORoses]

8. You can shove your Semantics in a Sack, mister.

If you cannot see the difference between:

"I have no plans to run for office."

and

"I will not run for office."

Then you need to go back to 6th grade English class.

[shadowknows69]

9. I'm sorry I cannot

I wonder if my middle school will take me back?

[Atman]

13. Why do you single out the word "NO" ? The object is PLANS, not NO.

He's not saying "I have NO teeth." He's saying he has no PLANS. Plans are easily changeable, that's what makes them PLANS.

.

[shadowknows69]

25. Yes plans are changeable

and according to that sentence Mr. Gore has NONE. No plans, nothing to change.

[Atman]

28. Uh...okay.

:eyes:

Sheesh.

.

[shadowknows69]

31. This intervention is as much for my benefit as for yours

I want to believe really I do.

[JackORoses]

40. Then why do you make the same post on every Gore thread that appears

It seems like you want not to believe and you are actively trying to dissuade people from Gore.

[shadowknows69]

46. because at this point to continue to support someone who isn't running

Could be hurting other candidates that are

[Alexander]

51. What a crock of shit...

Not a single vote has even been cast.

[SlowDownFast]

47. Given the choices so far

I'll keep believing.

So should you - until he gives the resounding "NO" that he did in '04.

I had no plans to make this post, until now.

[Name removed]

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[Virginia Dare]

22. If he was about to make an announcement..

then he would have to be making plans wouldn't he?

[Uncle Joe]

23. Only since the last time he said that, whenever that was. n/t

[Virginia Dare]

24. October 17th...n/t

[Uncle Joe]

26. Ok, that's history now. n/t

[Virginia Dare]

27. The eternal optimist...

that's a blessing and a curse.

[Uncle Joe]

32. Just as any crisis is.

Or as Al Gore explained regarding the Chinese symbol for crisis being two symbols representing danger and opportunity. I believe we're definitely in a time of danger, so I'm focusing on the opportunity until I see a better course of action, than having Al Gore as President.

[SlowDownFast]

49. Right on, Unc. n/t

[Bassic]

30. I agree that he should be clear about it. nt

[FourScore]

2. Please run, Mr. Gore! n/t

[AspenRose]

3. Run, Al, Run!

PLEASE!!!!

[Pacifist Patriot]

4. It's time Al. Batter up!

[il_lilac]

6. As long as the answer is YES

I will wait and work. If he says no tho...not sure what to do?

[earth mom]

7. I'm looking for good news this morning because it's a deadline of sorts. C'mon Al!

We need you! The planet needs you! Please!

[Javaman]

10. ...

:popcorn:

[weeve]

11. Not really a deadline.

He could definitely miss being on these early, smaller state ballots. If he announces late, he'd probably STILL win on them even as a write-in. Monday's Illinois filing deadline could be a bit more troublesome, even though many feel that state will go for Obama anyway.

Al has spoken out before of his disdain for the long, drawn out election process. It's still (just barely) over a YEAR away. On Thursday are his "30 Rock" and "Tonight Show" appearances, so I suspect the picture will be a lot clearer after that. Personally I believe we will hear the GOOD NEWS a few days before then, but like everyone else here, that is just my opinion.

I was contemplating last night the NBC connection. Both of next Thursdays shows are on NBC. This last debate (MSNBC, with NBC anchors) seemed to be testing the waters to see if Hillary's armor was vulnerable. By all accounts the answer was a resounding YES. Perhaps this was the last test before making the final decision. While the vast majority of the big corporate Media has generally been against Gore from the start, it's interesting to see that he may have at least ONE ally in NBC. Stay tuned friends of eternal faith ... I suspect this is going to be one helluva week !

Please Mr. Gore ... we NEED your leadership.

[Milo_Bloom]

17. 12/4 seems to be the date of no return.

I don't see any way he runs as an independent agiainst a dem, so I looked at the filing schedules http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2008pdates.pdf and it would seem to me that 12/4 could be the absolutely LAST day he could possibily announce to have any chance.. that is the filing deadline for California and Tenn.

I really thought he would announce before New Hampshire, BUT I also still believe what I have written several times on this.

I am left with 3 possibilities.

#1) Al Gore is stupid and doesn't realize the expectation he is creating and that people are spending so much effort and money on his behalf.

#2) Al Gore is heartless, doesn't really care about these people, their time, effort or money and just enjoys having his ego stroked knowing that people want him to be a leader.

#3) Al Gore actually WANTS to run and plans on doing so, but is doing so in a different an innovative way, by putting his ideas out there and allowing a grass roots organization to form around ideas, rather than retail politicking.

[weeve]

29. #3 it is !!

Thanks for the link Milo ! I think you're spot on with that Dec. date. The only two that I think it'd be a shame to miss out on are the Illinois on Monday, and Missouri later this month - but even those aren't insurmountable.

You're completely correct in believing that when Al throws his hat in ( ha - I'm sticking with the WHEN crowd ) it'll be in a unique and completely new manner. Same with how he'll run his campaign. After seeing what the Media did to him in the past, you can well believe that he'll do an end-run around the business-as-usual methods. We most certainly don't know the when or how, but Al hasn't let me down in the past, so I'm not overly worried. Still, it does seem as if we're rapidly reaching a make-or-break point , where even some of his staunchest supporters are becoming overly impatient, or even throwing in the towel. ( Not that they wouldn't come right back on Announcement Day. ) Since we're just trying to read tea leaves ( or grasping at straws, in some less optimistic people's minds ) ... I like the idea of next Thursday - or better yet even Wednesday Nov. 7 - the seven year anniversary of his 2000 Presidential win , announcing his candidacy on-line, likely on his current.com site, following that up with the 30 Rock and Leno appearances. Why not ?!?

Cheers ye of great faith !!

[Virginia Dare]

34. If it's #3,

then he's a liar. He's said he has no plans.

[Milo_Bloom]

37. Not in reality.

In reality, one can have no plans, yet be planning for something.

For example:

I currently have no plans for Thanksgiving. However, I am pretty sure my fiance is going to suggest something that will be cool to do OR she may not. At this moment, I have no plans and can honestly say, "I have no plans for Thanksgiving".

[Virginia Dare]

38. And they say Hillary is a triangulator!...n/t

[Milo_Bloom]

39. She is. (nt)

[MonkeyFunk]

42. He'd win nothing as a write-in candidate

don't be silly.

[Alexander]

52. Yeah, that's why there's a 220,000 strong petition...

and why Gore constantly does well in the polls and has a considerably large draft movement, despite not even being a candidate.

He'd win nothing. Sure. :eyes:

[MonkeyFunk]

54. He wouldn't win a single state

probably not even a single precinct as a write-in candidate.

The idea is ridiculous.

[SlowDownFast]

50. Bottom line, 'till the conventions.

Every naysayer who says he can't make the money - he can: furthermore, with his notoriety, he might not even have to.

He's not even running YET, fer chrissakes, and he's already taking/competing in many polls.

He's got an absolute better chance - (even more)- of him getting the presidency - should he run- than any candidate out there, excepting HRC.

That says alot, and you bet he's looking at the these polls.

And anyone who interprets his non-denial denial as a supreme denial doesn't know political-speak.

Why can't he just say "I Will Not Run."?

He knows about the DraftGore movements.

[Uncle Joe]

12. Ironically, I believe Al Gore should wait until the last possible moment before he decides.

If he decides to run, that will be less time for the corporate media to slander him. If he decides to endorse someone, as time goes on the pressure will only build on the announced candidates to make their stand known regarding the preeminent issues Al Gore holds dear. It can't be argued that he didn't give them as much time as possible to state where they are on Global Warming, the shredding of the Constitution, wars based on lies, the drift toward fascism, health care, etc. etc.

[Atman]

14. Me too.

And when he announces, he should ride into the room on a white stallion! Okay, maybe that would be over the top, but it would be cool to see.

.

[Uncle Joe]

16. There is a photo of him

riding a white stallion floating around here somewhere.:)

[Atman]

19. Here's a close second...

I've posted it a few times. Probably the most popular 'toon I've drawn since "The Lyin' King" or "TANG Chickenhawks, 1st AWOL Division."

....



.

[Beelzebud]

15. Stop waiting for a hero to save the day. It's not going to happen.

[weeve]

18. Not waiting for a hero ...

( even though he IS one ) . Just waiting for the MOST qualified person who would be the most likely to win, and increase our Congressional majorities. Instead, the pollsters, $$$ men, and Right Wing are trying to jam the LEAST electable, most hawkish, corporate-friendly candidate down our throats. No thanks.

Run Al, RUN !!

[lame54]

21. Here is what he should do...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Nnph3zkHNw

[RestoreGore]

33. Hopefully, he will continue doing what he is now doing which is more than most

So sad so many consider him a failure unless he runs for an office tainted by corruption in a system that is toxic that those pushing him into have no desire to get off their butts to fix. And posting useless polls and soundbite ads to do it which were two of the things he claimed he despised about political campaigns just proves how much people who "support" him didn't understand his book.

[Swamp Rat]

41. "So sad so many consider him a failure unless he runs for an office tainted by corruption"

Straw Man.

:D

[RestoreGore]

43. No, here it is obvious by reading.

[Swamp Rat]

44. You can tune a piano but you can't tuna fish.

[Alexander]

53. If you're totally delusional, I guess it is.

[weeve]

35. This post ...

... from over at dailykos sums it up the best for me :

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We will continue to support Gore to run!!

We can appreciate and thank all the die hards that have spent time, money and sheer belief in Al Gore running for President again. I can also respect where NY Populist has to go now to maintain sanity. There are many more of us fighting hard and moving the ball forward. We will rise and take their places.

I'm part of the California4Gore.org group busily signing up signatures for our CA Presidential primary. We don't need Al to announce, we're putting him on the ballot regardless because we want to vote for him and we believe he will run.

Two main reasons he will run:

Latest evidence is the polar ice cap is melting at an accelerated pace. We now have 8-10 years before we hit the "tipping point" and there's no turning back. If he really believes in saving the planet, he can't do it as Citizen Gore. He can make all the recommendations he wants, and the person in the Oval Office can give him lip service and basically turn their attention back to the energy companies and corporate lobbyists and continue the status quo. As President, he can set climate crisis as the #1 priority, appoint a senior level member to oversee it and continue to keep his eye on the ball. As the world's #1 polluter, we have to show the world that we are aggressively setting federal guidelines and mandates to cut back harmful emissions, create legislation & incentives to create new alternative fuels and create new jobs and industries in the process. Then we can negotiate with China & other super polluters and say "we're doing it" and so can you.

In Assault on Reason, he talks about the whole demise of democracy and what the current administration has done to ignore our constituion and trample on our rights. If he believes in everything he writes about, then he has to become the President to enact everything he says must be done. It's all that he believes in.

He will run, but he will wait and do it in an uncoventional style with massive grassroots support from people like ourselves. Without taking big corporate donations, and enlisting the "power of the people". We're here, we're fighting and we're not giving up! I want to hear Al Gore say: If my country asks me to serve....I will not serve as President of the United States....and then I will give up stop my efforts.

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Call me dense, but I just cannot fathom any really good reason why Mr. Gore would NOT accept, or fight for, the Presidency ?!?

[ronnykmarshall]

36. That zany Al!

Just keeps people guessin!

What a little scamp he is!

All those "I'm not running" statements ..... he so crazy!

[renie408]

45. Not a damn thing, that's what he's going to do.

Didn't he have until today to declare for Iowa and New Hampshire??

[SlowDownFast]

48. K&R.

Run, Al, Run!

I'm doing data entry for Draft Gore Michigan right now, in preparations for caucuses.

Anyone that wants Gore for Prez - get involved in your local DraftGore org!

It ain't over 'till it's over and I ain't heard "ABSOLUTELY NOT", YET.