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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:08 AM
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Obama, Biden did not sign Senate letter warning Bush not to attack Iran (Clinton did)


http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/11/obama-biden-did.html

Obama, Biden did not sign Senate letter warning Bush not to attack Iran

By: Mark Memmott and Jill Lawrence


More campaign news on Iran today out of the Senate. Virginia Sen. Jim Webb and 29 other senators sent President Bush a letter telling him he doesn't have congressional authority to attack Iran and he should stop making "counterproductive" provocative statements on Iran. Sens. Hillary Clinton and Chris Dodd signed the letter; Sens. Barack Obama and Joe Biden did not.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:09 AM
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1. Could it be because Obama and Biden were busy on the campaign trail? n/t
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:10 AM
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3. Yeah - wouldn't want him to take time out from standing with anti gay gospel singers
or anything.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:29 AM
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11. Could it be Biden didn't need to cover his butt? He didn't vote for the Kyl-Lieberman to begin with.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:02 AM
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19. That was my first thought as well. --nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:10 AM
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2. Good for her but the terrorist designation on the Revolutionary Guard
is counterproductive as well.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:11 AM
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4. There's more to the story
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 12:14 PM
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23. Thank you for that information, it sucks that we get spin on this...
board. Its nice to see the whole picture and the reasoning behind it. After reading the OP, I was wondering why they wouldn't have signed it but now I see it was just an ATTEMPT to discredit them.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:13 AM
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5. Obama rationalizes....what good is a letter so he introduces
a resolution. What was his excuse for not voting on the last resolution about not going to war with Iran. Oh I get it. He sat out the letter, which he does in countervail situations. He found out that's what the public wants, so he introduces a non-binding resolution. Go figure--- anyway the wind blows.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:16 AM
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7. I believe it's a binding resolution.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:22 AM
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9. No. it isn't. n/t
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:50 AM
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15. ...
"Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt also said the Illinois Democrat on Thursday introduced a binding resolution that would "nullify the vote the Senate took to give the president the benefit of the doubt on Iran."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3673518&mesg_id=3673518

Maybe this is wrong--this is an early report from last night.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:52 AM
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16. Sorry. I thought you were referring to something else. n/t
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:14 AM
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6. I'm speechless.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:17 AM
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8. Obama didn't need to cover his ass for the Iran vote, that's why.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:29 AM
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10. Neither did Biden. Biden voted "No" on the Kyl-Lieberman.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:41 AM
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12. Senator Biden's statement regarding the letter
Sen. Biden voted against the amendment urging the designation of the Iranian Rev. Guard as a terrorist group. He strongly opposed it because he believed it could be used by this President to justify military action against Iran. He has also made clear many times his view that the President lacks the authority to use force against Iran absent authorization from Congress. He didn't need to clarify that position - he's been clear from the start," said Biden spokesperson Elizabeth Alexander.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:46 AM
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13. That's right. Seems to me, the letter is simply, "Everyone else following Joe".
Too bad they couldn't do that to begin with.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:58 AM
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17. I agree Biden was the "whistle blower"
Joe pointed this issue out to the rest. they are now trying to cover their asses (especially Hillary). Anyone paying attention knows Biden needs not to sign that letter. he is the inspiration for it. :patriot:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:47 AM
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14. Bush doesn't care about ANY resolution from Congress
which is in the way of his ambitions. He's relying on his assumed authority to commit troops and initiate military action in 'defense of national security', much like he did in ignoring the actual provisions of the original Iraq resolution.

The letter is ok politically, but almost worthless as a barrier to military overreaches already demonstrated by this administration. Nothing less than direct legislative confrontation will stop Bush; even then, Congress will have to act to actually strip Bush of his ability to maintain any deployment. This is just ring-around-the-rosy.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:02 AM
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18. Exactly. If they really wanted to make sure there was no agression..
they should have voted NO on the Kyl-Lieberman ammendment like JOE BIDEN DID.
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:12 AM
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20. Looks like the letter is contradictory to their vote.
Round and round we go!
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:26 AM
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21. Yep..Damage control..that's all that letter is. Too bad they didn't listen to Biden.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 11:58 AM
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22. Biden voted AGAINST the Kyl/Lieberman action, Clinton voted FOR it.
Obama didn't vote at all.

Who's playing politics now?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 01:11 PM
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24. Biden voted against this, and issued a statement. But what I really want to know is why Biden was
the only one that bothered to come back to the Senate to cast an 'aye' vote for Schip???

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:07 PM
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25. ..."sent bush a letter"....
:rofl:

Yeah! Thats gonna work!
He'll read it right after he finishes My Pet Goat.

Does ANYONE believe that bush gives a shit about a letter?????
:rofl:
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