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keithjx Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:31 AM
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After four years of President HRC
I rarely post in GD, but my wife and I were watching the debate this week and had a discussion about what the nation will look like after 4 years of HRC. I thought I'd share it here and get some DU perspectives.

First, after about 15 minutes, my wife expressed how refreshing it is to hear someone speak our language with skill and a commanding presence, compared to the present occupant of the White House. HRC’s intelligence was on display, in stark contrast to what we’ve endured for 6 years. The questions were clearly “Hillary what do you think? Now what does everyone else think?”

The divisiveness issue came up – is HRC going to divide our party too much? (See FatDave’s post on the front page stirring up conversation on this issue.) Where we ended up was that HRC would likely get the nod for the primary and go on to win the general. Then we have four years of President HRC. What’s going to happen during this time?

Aside from the obvious MAJOR issue of the war in Iraq, I really believe that health care and the health insurance industry in this country are going to implode. And, regardless of her plan and what she has enunciated to this point, I think that she will still play ball with corporate interests like her husband did before her. Why shouldn’t she? He was the best president we’ve had since FDR. Whether you like the guy or not, our country was remarkably prosperous (economically) under his hand.

But President HRC won’t have the dot com boom, the silicon valley hurrah to prop up the economy like Bill did. And if health care does fall down catastrophically, she’ll be blamed. This opens up an interesting race in 2012, where it will be “republicans can get us back to the old prosperity” (they are always looking to the past for the “good old days) versus “democrats will have true universal health care.”

Oh, and in response to the divisiveness issue, I’ve concluded that right now it’s easy to say “I won’t vote for HRC EVER” because the opposing candidate is not at all solidified. Once it becomes HRC versus a specific repug with a specific ideology, you will see many of those same dems stating, “I’m not voting FOR HRC, I’m voting against .”

Thanks for your thoughts.
KJ

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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:38 AM
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1. IMHO
after 4 years of President HRC we will still be counting the dead in Iraq - both American Servicemen (and women) and Iraqi civilians.

WJC was a great President - but the economy was indeed built on the .com boom and the silicon valley bubble. Now it is the housing industry and banking. I think i heard that something like 500 BILLION in adjustable rate mortgages re-set in the next year or so - the ripple effect will be felt way past the 2008 election.

Oil at almost $100.00 - does anyone really see an end to the gouging by the oil companies? Under ANY president?

I am not optimistic for my country's future
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:49 AM
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2. Bush has set so many traps for the next pres
especially in the economic area that whoever is elected is going to spend a year or two simply dodging bullets and restoring normalcy. If the Repubs can act as a brake on any legislation then next pres may have a very frustrating term. Coupled with that stupid war, Dems may be looking pretty shaky by 2012.
We really need to take congress in a big way next year.
Add to the challenges the next pres will face is a loudly screeching media that will take every opportunity to portray a Dem in a bad light. Especially the radio monopoly of Right wing talkers. The screeching will be almost unbearable. Newspapers will also take the gloves off. Any Dem will be in a media hole to start.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:52 AM
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3. But President HRC won’t have the dot com boom, the silicon valley hurrah to prop up the economy like
But she will have the Green Revolution..It is going to become and in fact already is HUGE........Everyone is going to do at least something to Green our nation and alternative energy will be big business..She will be a part of that as any Democrat will be during the next decade..
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keithjx Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 11:32 AM
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6. You may be right.
If she uses the right carrots and sticks with the corps to promote the so-called "green revolution", it may become a boost that she could ride in 2012.

Good thought.
KJ
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 11:17 AM
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4. I think jealousy rears it's ugly head when those supporters of the other
candidates can't accept the fact, that people DON'T WANT THEIR CANDIDATE.

They want a president that they know can run the country. Not just someone who is trying to charm the pants off.
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keithjx Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 11:30 AM
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5. Bitwit - Not sure where you're going with this.
My post wasn't an endorsement necessarily of HRC. It was more of a "how I see things going." I believe that Edwards, Obama, Biden, Dodd, Richardson, and Kucinich are all easily more eloquent than the Shrub. I'm still an undecided, (which doesn't much matter here in MT) but I'm not in any way annointing HRC queen by my post.

Like I said, I'm not sure who you are taking aim at. Also, I don't want to necessarily ally myself to your reasoning if it is applying to other Dem candidates.
Thanks for the thoughts, though.
KJ
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