"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed

[hedgehog]

certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"



Where in there does it say that waterboarding is Ok, sometimes? note that ALL MEN have these rights, not just US Citizens!

[slowry]

1. Heh-heh-heh does that mean it's alright that if we torture women and children? Heh-heh-heh. n/t

[flvegan]

2. *Unless said men happen to be gay

or foreign, or black, or female, or...

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. well endowed?

sorry.

[chaplainM]

3. Contrast

Compare the current administration with the Founding Fathers. They faced an enemy army on US soil, and didn't find the need to torture or suspend habeus corpus.

[hedgehog]

5. Don't be so quick to confine your judgment to the present administration.

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/extraordinaryrendition/22203res20051206.html


My fear is that we have too many "realists" or people willing to make "tough decisions to protect the American people" within the Democratic Party, and that at least one is running for president.