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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:17 PM
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Saudi Arabia Could Have Helped Prevent 9/11-If US Officials Had Consulted Them In A "Credible Way"
CNN: "Prince Bandar said that Saudi intelligence was 'actively following' most of the 9/11 plotters 'with precision.'"

Saudi Arabia could have helped the United States prevent al Qaeda's 2001 attacks on New York and Washington if American officials had consulted Saudi authorities in a "credible" way, the kingdom's former ambassador said in a documentary aired Thursday.

The comments by Prince Bandar bin Sultan are similar to the remarks this week by Saudi King Abdullah that suggested Britain could have prevented the July 2005 train bombings in London if it had heeded warnings from Riyadh.

Speaking to the Arabic satellite network Al-Arabiya on Thursday, Bandar -- now Abdullah's national security adviser -- said Saudi intelligence was "actively following" most of the September 11, 2001, plotters "with precision." ...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/01/saudiarabia.terrorism/
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:18 PM
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1. oh please georgie wasn't talking with his best bud Bandar ?
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:21 AM
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11. Exactly, common sense seems to be a slow learn these days.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:24 PM
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2. Bandar Bush....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:34 PM
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:36 PM
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4. Yeah, sure. And the bin Ladens meeting with Poppy might have had info on their bro', too.
And the Bushes knew the score from the git-go.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 04:17 PM
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5. Who benefited from 9/11?
Sauds got their #1 secular threat removed. They got the US moved out of Saudi bases. They've gotten the Iraqi oil pretty much off the market, making their oil stocks more valuable. They have the radical Sunni's focused on US troops and away from the House of Saud.

I see no reason why they'd have prevented 9/11 from happening. I believe the House of Saud as much as I believe the Bush administration when it comes to the truth about 9/11.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 09:29 PM
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6. Well they are but one of many suspects nt
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 11:49 PM
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7. Too interesting not to recommend
and :kick:
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 11:58 PM
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8. The whole thing stinks
Yet anyone who realizes this is labeled a conspiracy nut. And while citizens are told to give their supposed protectors every benefit of the doubt, the supposed protectors exploit that trust to attain more and more power over the citizens.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:18 AM
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10. Nice to hear your noise.
:toast:
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:17 AM
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9. Is Bandar attemping to distance himself from B*sh....
In the same way he is attempting to distance himself from the Dollar?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 04:31 AM
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14. That is the connection. Yes.
KSA is no longer propping up either the Administration or the greenback.

They will fall together.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:04 AM
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12. "Let's call the whole thing off."
That's about all Cheney needed to say.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 04:29 AM
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13. What he's saying is that after Bush-Cheney took power, US Counter-terror ceased to be "credible"
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 04:32 AM by leveymg
The White House essentially shut down most of the programs with cooperating foreign intelligence services that were jointly surveilling AQ operatives inside the U.S. This was done to make way for the new Administration's own brand spanking new program that was scheduled to be unfurled on 9/11 - that involved a US attack on Afghanistan, which the Saudis and Pakistanis strongly opposed.

9/11 was the result of the White House's refusal to maintain reasonable safeguards in the face of known threats inside the U.S. in order to advance its own military-political agenda in Central Asia. See, http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00257.htm

Bandar is signalling here that Saudis are cutting Bush-Cheney loose, the truth is going to go public, and they expect this Administration is about to crash.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:29 AM
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17. I find it very hard to believe that all foreign intelligence services...

would be completely reliable in assisting the U.S. in cracking down on AQ operatives within the U.S. There is way too much room, and corrupting cash flow, for double and triple agents to have been active. There are credible reports that Al Qaeda had penetrated Saudi and Pakistani intelligence, where certain individuals were cooperating with Osama bin Ladin.

http://www.aijac.org.au/updates/Aug-03/040803.html#Article%20%201

Radical right-wing Likudniks allied with American neocons were no doubt salivating over the possibility of a new Pearl Harbor event in order to activate the preemptive war plans for the Islamic Middle East.

We already know, from the Sibel Edmonds case, that cash flow from the heroin drug rings associated with terrorism were corrupting some of our own Congresspeople, so there is little doubt that much of this foreign corrupting influence was already seeping into our political system. The nexus of cocaine drug running, mafia, and Bush crony connections also overlapped with 9-11 pilots training in Florida.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:31 AM
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21. I agree that double and triple agents played a key role in the 9/11 Planes Operation
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 11:40 AM by leveymg
I made that clear in my "Crimes of 9/11" series, the first installment of which in September 2002 predated the TNR nd Israeli articles you linked, which are valuable, and which I read some time ago. See, www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00257.htm - 144k - Similar pages

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00257.htm


Nonetheless, there's no question that Bush-Cheney ordered a number of domestic surveillance operations shut down in the months preceeding 9/11 and that information knowne to compartmentalized CIA-DIA programs were kept from FBI field investigators, and that this effectively enabled the 9/11 conspirators sufficiently to complete their operation. See,

Daily Kos: Why 9/11 happened: Bush curtailed Operation CATCH...
by leveymg. Mon Sep 11, 2006 at 07:51:17 AM PDT. The Bush Administration cancelled or cut back Operation CATCHERS MITT, the highly classified ongoing CIA ...

www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/11/105117/571 - 296k - Similar pages

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/11/105117/571
Daily Kos: THEY KNEW: Tenet's Book Reveals 9-11 Pe...
... ABLE DANGER and Operation Catchers Mitt (GOOGLE them). ...... LeveyMG is arguing that Tenet also visited a second time on August 24th, and that he has ...

www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/7/124813/48... - 775k - Similar pages

There's also no question that the Saudis have been deeply involved in funding the worst abuses of the Bush wing of the CIA since the mid-1970s. See, The Saudi Prince's Secret: Bush, Sr. Sold-Out CIA to Build ....
In early 2001, the FBI terminated Operation Monarch Crossing, which linked ... The Bureau was also forced to shutter Operation Catchers Mitt ...

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... - 310k - Similar pages

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1281780

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Beerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 04:35 AM
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15. That's pretty funny.
This is the "government" that's supposed to be 'protecting' us? What a fucking joke.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:23 AM
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16. Someone send this to Bill Maher!
He'll NEVER come around since those protesters freaked him out a couple of weeks ago.

:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 07:16 AM
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 07:35 AM
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19. He specifically says they contacted Britain about the '05 attacks,
but doesn't say if they contacted the US about the 2001 attacks - he just says the US should have "engaged their Saudi counterparts in a serious and credible manner". Interesting.

There is a lot more to the 9/11 story than we've been told. I hope one day we will know the full truth.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 09:36 AM
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20. KRNT!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:39 AM
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22. Meanwhile...embattled Citigroup Bank's biggest shareholder is Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 11:42 AM by TheGoldenRule
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:46 AM
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23. This also means the Saudis and Gulf Arabs are pulling out of US real estate
and on the verge of abandoning the dollar.

We're all going down, when that is realized.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:50 AM
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24. I see it coming, but what can we do about our dollars?
I'm just average American, worked hard, put my savings in a money market account. House is paid for, kids are grown, watch my pennies. But what is going to happen to my dollars? I don't have enough to buy gold, it's $800 oz! I can't easily exchange my dollars for Euros; besides, I need dollars to buy groceries. And it's costing more dollars every week to buy those groceries. But when the dollar becomes worthless, then what happens? What is going to happen to all of us average Americans?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:55 AM
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25. Don't know what they mean by approaching in a credible manner
They let all those people die over a point of protocol?

Not buying his story.

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