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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:39 AM
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Anthrax


just didn't want this crime/threat to fade from memory
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:43 AM
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1. k&r
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:50 AM
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2. Amen to that bro! K&R! n/t
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:51 AM
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3. When Robert Muller appeared before the House Judiciary Committe
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 11:51 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
a few months ago, Conyers asked Muller for any updates he's had on the investigation. Muller said yes, he'd pass them over to Conyers, but that was the last I heard about it.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:57 AM
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4. My husband was in Egypt at the time of the anthrax letters
and when we talked over the phone he would tell me about what he saw on/in the news there about it...except he ALWAYS knew days before I did who got a letter. That was because in the US the reports were not coming out when the letters were discovered...but days and days later... while in Egypt, they were getting the news in a timely manner.

One day he called and was talking about the TV producer/writer (can't recall which) whose baby came in contact with an anthrax letter..and I said..."Where did you hear that?"...he said "On the news"...and I said...but I hadn't seen anything that said that...and a few days later...it hit the American news.

Go figure...

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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:10 PM
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5. kick
nt
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:42 PM
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16. wow - k&r. nt
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:29 PM
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38. Kinda reminds you of Fletcher Prouty in the movie JFK getting info in NewZealand
prior to being shown in our news...
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:29 PM
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6. k........augggghhh thump
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:31 PM
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7. This crime must not be forgotten
Kick and recommend.
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brazos121200 Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:35 PM
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8. As soon as it became known that the Anthrax
was American in origin, the media quickly let the story go. I guess they figured since it was american it wasn't al qaeda and so lost interest. I'm still winting for the geniuses in our government to tell us who did it, six years later.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:46 PM
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9. Maybe when we get Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney in an orange jump suit and
manacles, we can ask him. Wanta bet he knows quite a bit about it?
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:17 PM
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29. How about waterboarding him?
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 05:13 AM
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42. It's not torture, right?
At least by their definition of the term. So yes, I think Mr. Cheney should be introduced to the wonderful art of waterboarding, to loosen his tongue up a bit. I'll bet he'd tell whoever does it exactly what they want to know, true or not.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 10:00 PM
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54. Sure just like a facial only wetter.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:56 PM
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17. They were warned off the story, I think.. BECAUSE it was American
in origin and weapons grade...AND it went to Democrats and "liberal" news outlets...
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 09:30 PM
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27. the geniuses in our government
did it. ends justify the means, they have no conscience
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:49 PM
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10. Made-in-USA military grade weaponized anthrax, to be precise. recommended
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:53 PM
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11. Kick this one and pin it.
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 12:57 PM by kingofalldems
Can we get this thread pinned to the top of the page?
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:57 PM
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12. .
rec'd
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:11 PM
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13. Kick
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:11 PM
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14. K&R
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dougolat Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 04:15 PM
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15. k&r
another stalled investigation, because it leads to Neo-cons.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:59 PM
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18. kick !
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 06:55 PM
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19. re-kick
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 06:57 PM
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20. Chuck Norris will kick butt and find out who it was!
not

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 07:03 PM
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21. kandr
Too funny! Whenever I see the word, 'anthrax,' I read about it.

* loves his ants with his thax. I just want a pretzel with salt encrusted on it in the shape of a w.

We need some divine intervention.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 07:25 PM
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22. Recommended! n/t
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 08:09 PM
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23. And only Biden or Kucinich will push the investigation if President.
Another reason to support them.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 01:20 AM
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39. I'll Never Forget The Incidents
Although I've grown a little hazy on the name of that scientist from Ft. Detrick, MD who was a "person of interest." Hatfield? Whose career they ruined. Where they unproductively drained the pond in which they expected to find discarded evidence of the alleged crime?

I don't suppose I'll ever believe that the government organized the distribution itself; that was a little too uncontrollable. But the non-investigation and the continuing uncertainty had/has everything to do with conveniently keeping the American public anxious and compliant. The timing was too perfect for the buildup to war plans. How could they risk confirming that they found, for example, the latter-day equivalent of L.H. Oswald and the Unabomber rolled into one?

Buttressing my personal theory, this is also about the same time that old Rummy-Tum-Tugger came out with the harebrained recommendations about plastic and duct tape to protect your home, if I recall. I'm contemptuous about it now, but that seriously got under my (Baby Boomer who grew up with bomb shelters, civil defense sirens, and classroom practice drills of stop, drop, and cover) skin; a U.S. official seriously making such a recommendation.

No, I won't forget, and I think I would demand that a renewed investigation take place under the next administration.
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 08:12 PM
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24. great band!!!
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losthills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 08:30 PM
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25. Have you ever noticed
How the media revisits all these big stories every time an aniversary comes around-- but they never revisit this one?

It was such a huge story at the time, but it suddenly got dropped colder than shit.

But we'll be hearing about Jon Benet for the rest of our lives...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 08:41 PM
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26. You're so right to keep this in our consciousness --- closed Congress for months right after 9/11-!!
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 08:42 PM by defendandprotect
THIS is the period of time when Americans were rousing Congress to act on the 2000 steal and the 9/11 farce ---

STILL, they are not getting their mail promptly -- three week delays -- !!!

Mail is still being irradiated ---

And we have paid and paid and paid for all of this criminal activity ---

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stimbox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 09:40 PM
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28. Dude!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:20 PM
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30. Tommy Thompson and Jerome Hauer know a bit about the anthrax attacks. k&r
IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:35 PM
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31. I wonder if any House or Senate investigations
are forthcoming. A special prosecutor should be appointed.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:38 PM
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32. MSM: Hands over ears, eyes shut, shaking head "..Na..na.. na..na..na..na
:shrug:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:46 PM
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33. I like it on toast. nt
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:48 PM
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34. What happen to Congress?
Years later and...
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:57 PM
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35. 51ST Rec & Kick
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 10:57 PM by sce56
Got Fascism Yet?

Fascism Accomplished!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:10 PM
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36. k&r
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:23 PM
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37. Whenever I hear some talking head pontificating how
the US hasn't been hit since 9/11, I think, that's a big lie. Anthrax happened shortly after 9/11, and that was some fear-inducing shit. It may have been intended for prominent Democrats and the "liberal" media, but it found its way onto the mail of ordinary citizens and killed a few of them along with some postal workers. I think it was a Bush/Cheney plan gone wrong.

Amazing how the investigation went nowhere and the attacks were pretty much forgotten by the media. I haven't forgotten though, and am convinced that was the government attempting to silence its critics. I often think Pelosi and Reid must have been shown photos of anthrax letters addressed to their homes. It would explain a lot.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 02:37 AM
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40. They already know who it was and why and where it came from.
The FBI agent who destroyed all the evidence and burned the lab where it was produced and the videos of who took it from the lab...was promoted and decorated. The administration thought it went well...it got the Patriot Act passed (the only ones who were going to prevent it from coming to the floor for a vote were the only two in congress to receive the anthrax.). Yet we are to believe our government on 9/11. Is that rain or has someone been pissing down my neck?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:51 AM
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46. And?
Where? Who?
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sss1977 Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 03:22 AM
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41. yep
Just another example of our government being the worst terrorist organization of all.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 05:57 AM
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43. k+r
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Rottenmac Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 06:58 AM
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44. Yeah...
What ever happened to those guys? Its a crime they aren't making more albums, and we are stuck with Britney et.al.

:headbang:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:51 AM
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45. PLUM ISLAND .... Read the book Lab 257.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 08:09 AM
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47. NO it came from Ft. Detrick in Maryland
Plum island does not have that kind of containment, Detrick does. Plum island does research on some lower level pathogens like West Nile Virus. That level of pathogen would be deadly there.
In fact they did DNA analysis on the Anthrax and pretty much PROOVED that it came from Detrick, whom it is well known has down biodefense research for years.
FYI, as someone who has actually been to Detrick and is familiar with the anthrax vaccine program, I believe that the person(s) responsible are holding leadership positions in the government doing vaccine research. In 2000 the anthrax vaccine research program was in big trouble because of safety issues and questions of actual need for the vaccine...Its pretty coincidental that not long after that the attacks began..one could almost think someone wanted to illustrate how dangerous Anthrax is and how much a vaccine is needed. Since 2001 the biodefense money has flowed. I think this person is probably buddy buddy with the government and therefore will never be investigated.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 08:11 AM
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48. READ THE DAMN BOOK, YOU MAY BE IN FOR A SURPRISE.
Ft. Detrick in the book.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:59 PM
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53. kick
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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:46 AM
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49. I still think of it every day usually when I'm opening my mail.
K&R
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 10:40 AM
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50. Indeed not, remember the anthrax letters after 9/11
<snip>
The Anthrax letters came from inside the United States

The letters contained a specific type of weaponized Anthrax made by a United States military lab which had been claiming for a lot of years that it wasn't doing that sort of thing any more. "What? Oh, you mean THAT Anthrax over there! Sheesh, we thought you said 'Pamflax' and shuckies but we quit making that stuff a long time ago. Honest. Really. If we're lying may God strike us... a glancing blow."

(Ahem)

The pattern of the mailings of the Anthrax letters was also suspicious. Congress got their Anthrax letters just in time for the vote on the disingenuously named USA Patriot Act (aka the anti-terror bill) which the terrorized Senators voted into law without bothering to read. The bill was signed on Oct. 26, 2001, and it opened the door for a wide array of civil rights and liberties violations. How convenient for the bill's sponsors that there was a terror attack on the Congress just when Congress was about to vote on the anti-terror bill. Eerie timing, isn't it?

So now, knowing that the Anthrax letters came from an American source, take another look at the actual letters.

<MORE>

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/framingarabs.html
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 10:41 AM
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51. kick
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 11:00 AM
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52. Kick & Nominated
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