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Sat Nov-03-07 09:00 PM
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Poll question: Where do you get your learned goodness from? |
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Overall, was there one person in your life that coddled the goodness affecting who you are today?
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:00 PM
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1. From chocolate. It makes me happy and I can be nice to people. |
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:04 PM
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perhaps it will be an option in the next poll :)
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:08 PM
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:12 PM
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14. Beer does it for me in eves |
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:16 PM
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20. Well, get that beer over here and we'll have some pizza. |
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:02 PM
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2. You need a "hell if I know" option and an "what goodness" option. |
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:03 PM
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3. Or maybe a "what is goodness" option. |
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I mean is it a good thing to tell a friend she looks good in that dress when she doesn't?
Moral dilemmas are a bitch.
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:05 PM
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5. I'm trying to force response |
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I learned it on TV :D
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:17 PM
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22. Oops! You're a much better watcher of teevee than I am! |
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:07 PM
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6. Kindness is hardwired into our systems for a number of reasons |
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It's nice to be nice.
When we cooperate with others, they cooperate with us.
Deep down, human beings who are healthy despise conflict with other human beings because it is not in their best interest.
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:09 PM
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:07 PM
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What might be good for me might be bad for someone else.
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:11 PM
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13. Thanks for that tidbit |
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but regardless, where did your relative goodness come from?
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:07 PM
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8. My late mother---a wonderful,tolerant,religious woman. |
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:13 PM
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15. Sounds like a wonderful lady |
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:09 PM
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10. Other: Personal quest |
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:14 PM
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I figured other "people" option would cover the personal quest.
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:11 PM
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Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:15 PM
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19. One songs are made of |
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:14 PM
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17. Your poll seems to suggest that spiritual can ONLY be related to religion????? |
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Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 09:15 PM by defendandprotect
religious/spiritual parent/guardian (2 votes, 29%) Vote nonreligious/nonspiritual parent/guardian (2 votes, 29%) Vote religious individual other than parent/guardian (0 votes, 0%) Vote nonreligious individual other than parent/guardian (1 votes, 14%) Vote mostly from religious/spiritual people (2 votes, 29%) Vote mostly from nonreligious/nonspiritual people
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RATHER there is a universe of spiritual connectedness that has nothing to do with religion --- you should understand that --
Organized patriarchal religions could be considered anti-spiritual in their long list of enemies . . . beginning with females.
For "goodness" sake -- rethink this ---
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:17 PM
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I am well aware of the difference. I was trying to be as rounded as possible and also chose words carefully to achieve the question proper.
Open up for goodness sake :)
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Sat Nov-03-07 10:47 PM
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46. This is open for misunderstanding . . .. |
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Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 10:55 PM by defendandprotect
religious/spiritual parent/guardian nonreligious/nonspiritual parent/guardian religious individual other than parent/guardian nonreligious individual other than parent/guardian mostly from religious/spiritual people mostly from nonreligious/nonspiritual people -----------------
so you're supposedly saying . . . religious OR spiritual parent OR guardian nonreligious OR nonspiritual parent OR guardian religious individual other than parent OR guardian nonreligious individual other than parent OR guardian mostly from religious OR spiritual people mostly from nonreligous OR nonspiritual people
and what I'm saying is you need to separate out spiritual rather than connecting it in any way with religion ---
but I think your question is very interesting . . . . and reflecting back I think I've had a lot of people in my life who were taught religions and religious beliefs but also understood them to be mythical -- so there's a lot in this realm that I think still has to be worked thru.
There are people I remember because of their spirits --- they are important to me and have had the most effect on me --- even people I've never known, but where I've been inspired thru biographies, etal ---
Eleanor Roosevelt, I guess is one of those people -- she would have been the first -- except for my family.
Being loved within a family is a spiritual experience -- IMO.
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Sun Nov-04-07 05:53 PM
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56. Good observation - now observe yourself |
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Of course a person can be spiritual without being religious, or religious without being spiritual. A person can also be spiritual and religious, and an organized religion can be very spiritual and even pro-female.
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:15 PM
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Agnostic paraplegic... I adore my Dad, best man ever. :)
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:24 PM
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27. would you say agnostic is |
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spiritual-religious- neither?
curious :)
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Sun Nov-04-07 01:08 AM
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49. He's spiritual, but not religious.. |
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He believes in *something*, but not in "God". My pops is a wise, wise, funny man. :)
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:17 PM
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:20 PM
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26. There was a thread around heah about altruism genes. |
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They've never done me a bit of good. :)
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Sat Nov-03-07 10:15 PM
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40. waite a while.. you probably wont burn in hell like the rethugs.. or better rebirth |
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Sat Nov-03-07 10:30 PM
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42. Nobody gets that joke. I better just toss it. |
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:25 PM
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are you saying a kabillion years from now humans will be all good, or all bad? (evolve)
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Sat Nov-03-07 10:13 PM
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39. research shows reich wingers inter marry, likewise liberals |
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:19 PM
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:D
She is religious/spiritual. I am not religious but I believe in our connectedness to all living beings. Not sure if that would be considered spiritual.
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:27 PM
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29. That's sort of what I hope to gather |
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I got into this discussion today, and I'm bouncingthe idea off DU :)
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And.. OMG! :loveya:
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:19 PM
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25. I still can't vote because, whatever that g thing is, I learned it |
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from my extended family. It was like a tent they all agreed to hold up and when I was big enough, I had to hold it up, too. Left only to my parent, I don't think the lesson would have been learned so viscerally. :shrug:
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:30 PM
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31. so would you say that your learned G |
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was from religious/spiritual people or nonreligious/nonspiritual people. From what I gather, would you say your extended family fits into one catagory moreso than the other?
:)
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:35 PM
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33. Got it. Wow, sorry to be so dense. |
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:42 PM
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I'm being very "structured" lol.
Trying to avoid the fire.
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:28 PM
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The best, most unselfish person I've ever known...and I got to marry him!
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:33 PM
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32. Designated Hitter? I kid |
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Assuming you mean Dear Husband.
That's wonderful. He probably saw your goodness as well.
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:40 PM
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34. Interesting 80% so far comes from parents |
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20% from others
Just sayin...
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:45 PM
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36. I'm not convinced that I'm really all that good. |
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Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 09:47 PM by Marr
I don't hurt people intentionally, but I haven't devoted my life to actively helping others, either. I don't count my (relatively small) donations to charity to be all that virtuous.
I was raised without religion and would describe myself as an atheist. I expect my morality is a combination of what I was born with and what my parents instilled in me.
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Sat Nov-03-07 09:49 PM
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what got you your desire to help others..etc?
Was there someone, or some community/society that got you that way?
Were they nonreligious/nonspiritual on the whole, or religious/spiritual?
Good is relative (so I hear). Relative to how you feel, how would you vote?
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Sat Nov-03-07 10:03 PM
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38. Hmm... well, in the broader sort of "social justice" sense, I suppose |
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I picked it up from the writings of people who are concerned with such things, as well as from my dad's union activism. He was a devoted union man and went out of his way to explain to me why people with less have to stick together.
Though I'm not religious myself, I've had a number of friends who were devout members of various faiths (Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, and Sikhs) and I've always enjoyed talking with them about their religions. They all seem to share a similar principle at their core that I like, which is basically just "help people who need it and don't be a dick".
That recognition of the greater good and duty to community is as close as I come to spirituality, so I'll call it that. :P
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Sat Nov-03-07 10:15 PM
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41. Other, I was born good |
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Sat Nov-03-07 10:41 PM
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My learned goodness mostly came from my husband!
He was instrumental in getting me to believe in myself...
I owe him a great debt...
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Sat Nov-03-07 10:44 PM
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I'm on bathroom break but was curious.
So a religious/spiritual non guardian, or other?
I wonder silly things :)
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Sat Nov-03-07 11:31 PM
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From the last category....non-religious, non-spiritual people!
My husband's an atheist!
I don't mind your wondering, sweetie...:hug:
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Sat Nov-03-07 11:46 PM
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48. My Grandmother, Beatrice |
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Otherwise known as "Ummy," who loved me unconditionally, even when I did little or nothing to deserve it. She, more than the many years of rote Roman Catholic indoctrination I received, made me aspire to be a more worthwhile human being.
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Sun Nov-04-07 01:49 AM
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I'm fairly buzzed by now but this warms me.
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Sun Nov-04-07 01:09 AM
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50. from the doctor that prescribes my meds |
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Sun Nov-04-07 01:15 AM
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51. Honestly I think it is hardwired to a great extent |
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I remember, as a very very young child, hearing things that were mean spirited, unfair, bigoted, etc. and knowing that it was "wrong". There may have been influences further back than my memory goes, but I have always had the basic values I do now.
I have gained strength and peace at times from the examples of others, but the "knowing' was always there...
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Sun Nov-04-07 01:51 AM
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53. born and bred a lutheran, i've since converted to atheism... |
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but my moral compass was pretty much issued by the missouri synod.
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Sun Nov-04-07 04:52 AM
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54. What about we who have no goodness? |
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what do we vote?:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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57. from 10,000 lifetimes |
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