So, can any of you give me one reason why I should give a shit about the future?

[Greyhound]

I am an over-educated, under-employed, post boomer that has been, for my entire life, relegated to following the largest generation in history, cleaning up their crap, all the while hoping that they would drop a few crumbs so that I could survive another year.

I never bought into the "God will reward you after you're dead" bullshit (they should have invented a better lie to sucker in those of us that can actually think), and I have never felt the need to create a bunch of ankle-biters to "look after me when I'm old".

Because of the fact that my head is full of largely useless knowledge, I have no worries about the earth surviving our hyper-wasteful plundering and unprecedented spew of toxic flotsam. I has been around for well over 4 billion years and our brief episode of filth production will not make any significant difference whatsoever in the long term, although it will be too bad about the horrible suffering and extinction of some truly remarkable species that had the bad luck to rise during our toxic garbage-fest.

I've grown and witnessed the utter indifference of what we cynically name humanity, all the while seeing that this is nothing more than a lie we tell ourselves to justify how we fucked over somebody else so that we could gather some meaningless, short-term benefit, even when it makes no difference in our immediate circumstance, all the while telling ourselves that we are really "good people".

We revere the worst thieves for how cleverly they steal from others and blame the unfortunate for some undefined lack, and truly believe that somehow, someday, we will be the beneficiaries of this perverted system of corruption. We honestly believe, despite all evidence to the contrary, that if we "Build a better mouse trap, the world will beat a path to your door", and never consider the fact that if we were to build a better mouse trap, the Acme Mouse Trap Company, Inc. would either simply steal the design with the blessings of the court, or sue us out of existence.

We pretend that what our nation is, is some kind of superior model upon which the utopia we envision can be constructed, while actively resisting and preventing any measure that might make it possible. After all, if Paris Hilton were to have to pay taxes on the unearned fortune she got, how could I pass my imagined empire on to my broodlings?

So tell me, why should I make any effort, whatsoever, to help you? You, who will literally step on another human being, or pretend that they don't exist, to avoid dealing with their inconvenient existence. How many closets do you have in your house right now, that are full of clothes that you are too fat to fit into anymore, that you are "saving" because someday you will get off your ass and work yourself back into them? It is cold tonight and somebody will die because you live a life of delusion.

How much willyou spend on lunch Monday? $10, $12, more? Are you even conscious that the people you ignored getting into that restaurant could eat for 2 or 3 days on half of that?

To the fortunate few that slum here to assuage their guilt and pretend they are in touch with the "little people", are you honestly unaware that you can literally turn somebody's life around with virtually no effort or sacrifice on your part by simply talking to them and making a few phone calls or, god forbid, writing a check for less that your pay to go out to dinner? Do you think that by saving a few hundred bucks today, you will become tomorrows Bill Gates, or are you simply reveling in the fact that you can punish these meaningless proles by pretending that it is more than one person can change?

Will you vote for a corporate whore because you are afraid that the demise of the insurance industry, or the multitude of "defense contractors" you've invested in, will cause your portfolio to drop a few points, even though you know that they are enriching you and themselves by murdering, stealing, and bringing misery to thousands or millions of others? Do you really think that the Wackenhut rent-a-cop at the gate will stop a desperate person from coming into your house and killing you for the baubles he can get to live another day? I don't believe it, I think you are smarter than that, and therefore are simply partaking, and perpetuating, in a barbaric system of the stronger preying on the weaker.

This being the case, I ask again, why should I care about you? Why not just take what I want from you? Why should I suffer your existence at all?

[fenriswolf]

1. thats the differance

are you a person to increase the suffering of another for your own personal comfort? or are you a person who will decrease your own personal comfort to help another? it all depends on who you are. so i guess im saying your question is rehtorical and cannot be answered.

[Naturyl]

2. Because you are no different.

What you describe is human nature. We can't perfectly examplify our ideals. Do you never ignore others who are lest fortunate?

What you say is basically correct. But it is incomplete. It fails to recognize that our limitations are no excuse not to do the best we can.

[Greyhound]

33. No, it isn't our nature. If it were, we would have become extinct long ago.

It is counter to our very survival, yet a majority(?) of us have been so well conditioned to accept it, that it rarely occurs to us to be any other way. It is how the tiny minority exerts control over the overwhelming majority.

As for the second point of your reply I apparently failed in writing effectively this. The entire rant is intended to make that point. We not only fail to do our best, we don't even try.

[JeffR]

3. Tell you what, I don't eat $12 of food a day

usually not even close. I'm in my fifties. Stop tilting at generational windmills. The problem is the system. A lot of us knew that and started fighting against it four decades ago.

"Never attribute more intelligence to your enemy than to yourself and your brothers." - Abbie Hoffman

[Greyhound]

36. Funny how the generational thing is what you focused on.

That was a relatively minor aspect included just to give the reader an idea of my individual reality. Obviously it does not speak to every single boomer, not even a majority, yet many of you are so sensitive to the utter failure of your generation to live up to its potential that it grabs the focus of your attention each time it is mentioned. (and yes I know that your's is certainly not the only one)

The rant was about the fact that the problem is the very system, just as it has been since shortly after its creation, and the fact that once the system fails a critical mass of its captives, it collapses suddenly and usually violently. IOW, when we replace the 'law of the jungle' with a variant based on wealth instead of brawn, and that system fails to meet the necessities of that critical mass, the natural 'law of the jungle' reasserts itself and the majority destroys the minority.

[JeffR]

46. We agree completely about the system

which merely underscores to me that the generational reference was gratuitous. It detracted from the point you were making.

[Truthiness Inspector]

4. You matter.

I only read the first part of your OP, but I am concerned about you.

God will reward you in this lifetime. I know it sounds like pablum, but it's true. You sound like you are looking for a reason to give up, instead you need to LOOK UP. If you don't believe in God, then think about what you DO have, even if it's just a little, and thank whoever you believe in even if it is just yourself and say THANK YOU. Being grateful for the little things brings about positive changes.

[Greyhound]

37. Yes I do, and thanks, but "God" has nothing to do with anything as it

is simply a tool to delude the majority into accepting the tyranny of the minority.

I understand that you believe in this myth and you have every right to do so, but please leave me out of it.

Again, thanks for your concern, and please throw some clothes and blankets in the trunk of your car and give them to some of the invisible people you drive by every day.

[Blue-Jay]

5. Who needs a hug?

[SoCalDem]

26. or a nap?

:rofl:

[BeHereNow]

6. yes, I can!

Dennis Kucinich!

It aint over till the fat lady sings, ya know?

I think America has had enough, and I have faith
that we WILL take the country back come hell or high water.
And WE need you.
How's that for a reason?
:pals: :hug: :loveya:

BHN

[Truthiness Inspector]

7. What a stupid answer

And I am trying to restrain myself. Dennis is a great guy, but how is this answer helpful to this DUer? Like Dennis would personally solve his/her problems.

[NC_Nurse]

10. Hey dude! Chill!

Why call the post a "stupid answer"? That's just mean. Weren't you just talking about God'n stuff?
I thought it was a sweet post. Geez.
:wtf:

[Truthiness Inspector]

12. Fair enough

My choice of words was poor. But I hope you got my drift as well. I'm sure we both agree that no one should ever give up or encourage others to think all is hopeless and that s/he has no control.

Edit: Not a dude. I'm a dudette.

[NC_Nurse]

16. My kids use "dude" without regard to gender so I didn't

even think about it...oops.
I agree that we shouldn't encourage hopelessness. I don't think that was the intent of the post you
were referring to...
I just don't like it when people smack down other people's posts unless they were truly being a jerk.
Thanks for hearing me.
:-)

[fenriswolf]

21. hehe i call the wifey dude

and she keeps telling me she isn't a guy, i say so????

[BeHereNow]

15. You're sweet- I chose to ignore the snark from that one though.

All too predictable from what I have observed from her posts.

And you are right, helping others is the surest way out of the
feelings the OP is having.
That's why I brough up DK, who I know the Grey supports-
DK is all about THE people and the injustices Grey mentions
in the OP.

As for Ms. Snarkiness Inspector?
BAH, just take another look at her avitar of choice.
I thinks that pretty much sums her Christianity up.
Bwahaha.

I repeat, (((((((((HUGS)))))))))) to Grey!

BHN
:loveya: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :loveya:

[Truthiness Inspector]

17. Good one.

I have never claimed to be a Christian. I just look at life and how it works. Be grateful for the good things in your life and good things happen, or choose to suck on a lemon and you get a lemon.

[BeHereNow]

18. "God will reward you in this lifetime?"

What, do tell, religion is that phrase from?

I am assuming that if you felt compelled to offer such a
statement up to Grey, that you have personal beliefs and
reasons to back it?

BHN

[Truthiness Inspector]

20. Just personal beliefs

Do you disagree?

[Skittles]

24. don't feed 'em, NC

it just encourages them

[NC_Nurse]

8. And now for the "glass half-full" perspective...

Lots of us pack our lunch, help other people everyday, and try to keep the faith.

I often think about how lucky I am to have been born here rather than in the middle of some warzone
or some third world poverty stricken place, even though here is not utopia...there is no perfect place
and so what? Why not think about what you have to offer in terms of people, animals, cleaning up the planet
instead of despairing over what's not going well? You'd be doing it for yourself - not to become part of the denial.

Caring doesn't have to suck.

[Fresh_Start]

9. There's been many times in my life when I've felt desperate

for myself, for others, for humanity, for the future.

I used to imagine that having those beliefs and feelings was proof of some type of goodness. I no longer find much value in those feelings. It doesn't help me and doesn't help anyone else.

I've taken an activist view to helping. I volunteer. I volunteer a lot. Its how I can affect people who need help and how I can affect the future.

Maybe my volunteering doesn't make much difference overall. It doesn't change the world. Maybe it merely postpones the inevitable. But I can't change the world. All I can do is make it a tiny immeasurable bit better.

If you don't volunteer already, maybe you want to try it. It really does help with the despair.

[NC_Nurse]

11. I agree. Nothing like working with people who

need it to make me realize how grateful I am for what I have and what I have to offer.

[Fresh_Start]

14. You don't even have to work with the people

you can work for the people. You can get food, clothing, medicine, may certain they get a hot meal or a visit so they aren't alone. Just doing something (instead of brooding) helps break the despair.

I remember reading about Mother Teresa's private writings. She doubted her faith but she labored on. Her labor was its own redemption.

[Rosemary2205]

13. What difference does it make?

If there is no God, no afterlife, then there is only survival of the fittest. Stomping all over the little people isn't barbaric, it's human nature to get all we can for "me and mine". If survival of the community means controlling certain behaviors then humans will do that, but in the end, it's just survival. Value judgements on behavior have no place in that scenario. It's all about what works for survival and what doesn't.

[blues90]

19. It's an honest OP and there is alot of truth in it

I question this sort of thing most days and have for many years . I don't feel I need a god to possess morals .

i have never had much and I never really did well in the working world out there because for the most part in order to succeed it seems people have to be stepped on so I chose to remain honest and fair .

As long as man has existed there has been the strong survive and there have been wars and killing and all the corruption we see today but now it's on a larger scale and can be done much more effectively thanks to mans insistence on creating weapons that can create mass death at the push of a button .

People praise all of the scientific advancements to keep people alive longer and provide ways to produce more but in a very real sense the same advancements are to the demise of others so there is no real honest gain done by humanity for all humanity . One person may live to one hundred but how many die before they reach 2 .

It's all for the well to do and to be honest man has willfully created his own nightmare as far as destroying the planet with his inventions and greed with the never ending search for a better and easier life for the few .

Man has reached this point in time and now suddenly all the ill's man has brought upon himself and so many others are important .

I don't think man will ever change and will continue to destroy all mankind along with many other creatures that were here long before man screwed things up with his insistence on altering the face of the planet and nature to suit his own delusional desires .

Certainly one person can and many do help one or two people through a day and no one can help everyone or change everything but the day will never come where most people in this world will suffer the effects brought on by mans foolish dreams of what the world should be .

Personally I want no part of this high tech illusion where the machine runs man instead of man running the machine and this is what it has become and it's on sick joke people consistently defend as some sort of normal activity .

Look what we have done by paving the earth with our roads and buildings and pipes and pumps , cement and crap , cars and boats and planes and we set back and call this progress .

People sit back on their fat rear ends in front of a box and here they learn and are told and sold what they need and what they should be and what defines success or failure , it is really a joke . Models and idols and how you should look and who you should hold as a god who are nothing more than a man , heros and the top ten , who is number one and who makes fortune magazine .

If anyone thinks they are going to change this by protest or some call to a politician forget it , the only way is for everyone is just to stop and let the monster die and bring things into perspective .

We have been warned so many times in so many ways and still we ignore all of it as if there is a forever .

[otherlander]

22. Because

if all the humans die, who will make loltapirs?

[NuttyFluffers]

23. because it matters to this starfish.

:evilgrin:

it's fun to wallow in one's factionalism and selfishness at times. but in the end it really does not reward meaningful things. well, unless you only think the meaningful things are physical objects.

sharing is fun and pleasure is good. sharing pleasure with others is even better. sounds like you're not sharing enough pleasure with others to recharge your emotional batteries. in the end we're all dust anyway, so go out and have fun and share.

[SoCalDem]

25. Darwinists still have to rub shoulders with the rest of humanity

and some day you will need someone to help you too.. What goes around , comes around..

People you never met HAVE helped you, even if you don't know it..


Life is just a generational bargain we make with each other.. babies would never survive if grown ups didn't help them..and you wouldn't know anything, if others had not taught you..

Things your youth and strength allow you to do NOW, with ease,, will become harder to do as you age, and people younger than yourself, will have to eventually help you :)

You make a little mark on everyone you meet, and you never know which one of them may end up helping you someday..

be nice to everyone and your chances are better :)

[Greyhound]

39. Tell that to the 62 year old woman looking for someplace to hide tonight

where she can grab a couple hours sleep without freezing, being raped, robbed, or killed for one more night. This is not a plea for myself, I am fully willing and capable of taking matters into my own hands, should things get bad enough.

It is more of a warning that if we continue down this road, the consequences will most likely be borne by people that bear little responsibility for this mess, other than their willful ignorance.

[SoCalDem]

45. Newsflash..

The "little people" have ALWAYS borne the brunt of bad policy by rich powerful people..and it always will be so,:cry:

[Perry Logan]

27. "Cleaning up our crap"? We gave your generation the longest economic expansion in U.S. history...

...and the biggest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill, highest home ownership in U.S. history, lowest infant mortality rate in U.S. history, lowest poverty rate for African Americans in U.S. history, etc.

A simple thank-you will suffice.

[Greyhound]

40. Go sell that crap to someone that is interested. Lies, damn lies, and statistics. n/t

[NotGivingUp]

60. "We?" "Gave?" "thank-you?" you're a little too far gone to work with. n/t

[riverdeep]

28. Someone said,

'A pessimist is just someone with really high expectations.'

[eallen]

29. Move.

No one can tell you why to give a shit. Your attitude isn't so much political as it is personal. You have been in one place too long. That may be but isn't necessarily a matter of geography. So move. Move far. That isn't a command or a wish. Which I guess makes it advice. The alternative is to stew. And the sad thing about stewed people is that they dislike themselves most of all.

:hippie:

[Fly by night]

30. Because it's all any of us has to look forward to.

So quit your belly-aching, get off your ass and do something good for someone or for the earth.

I guarantee it will make you feel better.

Or just keep sitting there, feeling sorry for yourself.

Either way, the future is all we have to move forward to.

If we're of a mind to move (or breathe or be) in the first place.

Most of us here are progressives, not retrogressives.

Progress is moving forward.

[lonestarnot]

31. Greyhound, do you need a racetrack?

A nice run might do you good, but what would you chase?

[struggle4progress]

32. Time is short. You don't give a shit? Then I'll talk to some of the other 6 billion.

[pinto]

34. Because, hopefully, you're going to live in it. As will many of us.

Hang in there.

:thumbsup:

[applegrove]

35. Cause as the boomers retire it will become an employees market

for the first time in a generation.

[SammyWinstonJack]

42. I wonder how many boomers won't be able to retire? I'll bet more than one imagines there

are. Too poor to retire and too old to work. Social Security/Medicare benefits greatly reduced, so many will be screwn. Ah well, a lot of Americans think we deserve to be. :shrug:

[earth mom]

38. You are forgetting that we ALL live in this world & it makes NO difference if you're a boomer or not

We've ALL been screwed over by the union busting, the outsourcing, the exploitation by businesses of workers-legal and illegal.

We are ALL in this together.

The self absorbed, SUV driving, McMansion owning, designer wearing creatures are soon going to find out what the REAL nitty gritty is. It's just a matter of time.

But don't hate me because I'm a boomer-a late one, but a boomer nonetheless. I've paid my dues and am still paying them.

[blues90]

41. As a early boomer I don't feel like we are all it this together

There is a long span of age between the first war babies and the last .

The early ones like me had our parents generation dropped on us to deal with , the stories of the depression and stories of WWII . There is a gap in the war baby generation much like the gap between the next generation .

It seems to me the first boomers are being tossed to the side not being up on the tech stuff and having much experience in old fashioned tech stuff like a type writer even if it was electric . Many were blue collar workers who find their jobs gone forever and visually erased , this is quite a culture shock , at least for me it is .

I recall the sadness walking into an old time hardware store where workers spent their last 30 years working in the same place while the store had their selling out phase and these people were lost and had no idea where they were to go or what was to become of them . This was their life and community for 30 years gone in weeks . You can't replace that or re-adjust in this new high tech world .

The later boomers had an edge and a jump on the high tech world and it's all a matter of advancements in a short period of time .

Things did not change all that much until the end of the 70's , we still used the same old equipment and familar surroundings were a comfort zone . From that point is was a slow start to change to a full force rapid fire process .

They talk all about job retraining and for what is what I ask myself and where do I fit in to this global economy , I have yet to figure that out , perhaps i never will .

[earth mom]

47. Both my parents & my husbands parents grew up in the depression.

My husbands father fought in WW 2. Both my husband and I are late boomers and grew up in households that remembered the depression and WW 2 like they were yesterday. My husbands parents were a bit older than my parents were and they tended to be frugal to the extreme, whereas my parents, though not extravagant, were more live in the moment types because they realized that it is all any of us really have.

As a late boomer I don't feel like I had a jump on technology at all; I didn't get my first computer until 1999 which was a Mac in a PC world. Talk about a tough learning curve-lol! I went to college and so did my husband, but neither of us found work in the fields we studied. Mainly, I worked for myself for years in a creative capacity while my husband has had more blue collar type jobs. We have certainly not been the lucky ones and instead spent years as the working poor until about 3 years ago when my husband got one of the few remaining decent paying union jobs out there.


Not everyone has been handed golden opportunities and that's why I don't think that it's fair to generalize about the baby boomer generation; early boomer or late boomer.

[leftofthedial]

43. why should you care?

because if you don't, we'll kick your ass.

[Greyhound]

51. LOL!

:rofl:

[elias7]

44. I don't know how you're going to do it, but

you need to start thinking outside of that box you're in.

[0rganism]

48. the sun also rises -- somewhat later these days, but it does rise

You may be getting hit with some SAD (seasonal affect disorder).

I know where you're coming from. I see our current situation much the same way. It's really hard to keep going sometimes, precisely because you want to care about the future. If you didn't at least want to care, you wouldn't have asked the question -- or at least not the way you did.

So, how to care. Ask yourself what kind of place the world, or humanity's condition within it, would have to be for you to care about the future again. Then do whatever you can to bring those circumstances into existence. Sometimes, you get lucky and they're already in existence but you just didn't notice them before.

Which brings me back to the SAD. You're something of a newcomer to the PNW, from Nevada IIRC. Even though we've had a pretty dry fall so far, there are still a lot of dreary days to get through, and the shorter daylight makes a lot of people grumpy even without the perpetual rain. Even if it doesn't rise to the level of full-blown SAD, you have to have a way to handle the doldrums around here or eventually you'll go stir-crazy. I recommend getting a light box and using it every day for half an hour as you get up, it really helps with the dark times. This isn't meant to trivialize your original post, which I find largely accurate if a bit one-sided. When I can only see that side, I get nihilistic too.

Anyway, do what you can for the future of your loved ones, and start by finding more to appreciate in the present. Say what you like about what others have done and will be doing elsewhere, you still have the here & now to deal with, and that's the basis from which all future moments will be derived, one way or another. Just make sure that whatever you think about the future generally isn't cheating you in the present, and what you think about the global situation isn't degrading your ability to enjoy the people and places in your immediate vicinity. Enjoy your existence, be grateful to those who show you kindness and affection and respect, and you'll find yourself caring again, one way or another.

Free advice from a former sunlight-dweller. :)

[Greyhound]

50. Thanks dude, but that isn't what's going on, this is strictly a DU phenomenon.

I am personally fine, except for a few financial woes, which don't really bother me. It's come about from reading idiot after idiot going on about how wonderful things are and belittling other posters for their concerns, mostly pointing out that there is no opposition party.

As you know, I am fully capable of going over to the dark side. They love me and actively recruit me, the way I look, my complexion, the way I speak, the way I can talk to anybody and convince them of nearly anything, yet for all these years I have refused, at great personal expense, to do the kinds of things that would make me personally wealthy by taking advantage of others gullibility and ignorance. I am always trying to make others see what is really happening, how the game is being played, and helping them to avoid being taken in.

Then I come in here and read thread after thread of pure horse shit extolling the non-existent virtues of a system that preys on the weak to benefit the least deserving, and I just begin to wonder what is the use? Why shouldn't I just go about shearing the flock that actively resists seeing how they only exist to benefit the strong. each one foolishly believing whatever myth they have chosen, practically begging for someone like me, sans conscience, to take them for all they have and most of all they ever will have.

When I wrote the OP, Ms Greyhound had just freaked out because of the circumstances we, and millions of other Americans, are in. Our combined incomes this year represent a 50% cut in her individual income, or a 75% cut in mine, over the last 4 or 5 years, and she's fucking sick of it. The only thing that pays any more is to promote and promulgate the misery of the rest.

Thus the plea, tell me why I shouldn't. It's so easy and it pays so well, and then I and those I care about could get the hell out and leave the rest to their fates. "You want it? You got it, fool."
ETA: That last line is not directed at you, but at the apologists, sorry. Are you coming to another meeting? Ever? Call me.

[Le Taz Hot]

54. To quote you:

"It's come about from reading idiot after idiot going on about how wonderful things are and belittling other posters for their concerns, mostly pointing out that there is no opposition party."

Or how about belittling other posters for their optimism of perspectives other than your own? Or is that somehow different?

To quote you a second time:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2251539#2252647

The point some of us are trying to make to you (as I was trying to make to you the other day) is perception is reality, not the other way around. No one is being Miss Mary Sunshine here, but completely ignoring the good and positive around you is also a distortion of reality. Go to the local food banks and tell me no one cares. Talk with the homeless and they will tell you about people just dropping off food to them. Or clothes. Or blankets. You have to look closely. These silent (and frankly, mostly boomers) warriors don't get publicity. They don't get awards or millions of dollars. They just do it. THAT is what gives me hope for this country.

It's all about perspective, my friend.

Peace.

LTH

[Greyhound]

61. Two things; one was a typo, left out the word for, as in

belittling other posters for their concerns, mostly for pointing out that there is no opposition party.

And I have no idea how the other post was relevant at all.

As Aristotle said, perception is irrelevant, "what is,is"

[Le Taz Hot]

62. Yeah, well Aristotle also said

that women were nothing but deformed men, so what the hell did he know?

:evilgrin:

[malaise]

49. One reason

the children.

[OneBlueSky]

52. gee, you've captured my state of mind almost exactly . . .

I too have been around for awhile and witnessed "the utter indifference of what we cynically name humanity" . . . I've been working for change for about almost five decades, and all I have to show for it is encroaching corporate fascism, impending totalitarianism, dominionist religious pap, and a bunch of stupid t-shirts . . .

I long ago resigned myself to the fact that what I do makes no difference whatsoever, so these days I prefer to spend my time in my shop and in my garden, exercising what's left of my creative powers for personal gratification . . . it won't change the world -- nothing will -- but it comforts me in my latter years . . .

as for the politicians and the corporate powers who make all the decisions that negatively impact my life and the future of the planet? . . . fuck 'em all . . .

[NotGivingUp]

53. That is one excellent post, greyhound. It IS the heart of the matter.

Too many people scrambling for the almighty dollar and not caring who they trample on to get it. This is what this system has created. It's a system of classes, and it is drilled into everybody's heads that the class below you is filled with stupid, lazy people that deserve to be there and deserve to work for the lowest wages doing the shittiest work. And the class above you? That's something to strive for...the dangling carrot. Keep running after it...keep being a corporate slave...working for the elite ruling class so they can sit on their fat asses and crack the whip and say WORK HARDER! It's time to stop idolizing the biggest whores among us. Time to stand up for what is right...and if we have any heart left after struggling in this elitist system that is truly slavery, we can still tell the difference between what's right and what's wrong.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

55. Because, it's obvious from your observations that, you are NOT a barbarian.

Moreover, it appears from the perception you share,...you would have great difficulty behaving as a selfish, arrogant asshole.

[Breeze54]

56. I felt the same way about the "greatest generation".

:eyes:

"....relegated to following the largest generation in history, cleaning up their crap..."

You are just echoing past out cries of frustration.

"and our brief episode of filth production will not make any significant difference..."

Are you referring to the Industrial Revolution? :shrug:

You poor poor dear...... "I am an over-educated..."

"Because of the fact that my head is full of largely useless knowledge..."

And it shows. Instead of complaining, what are you doing to make a difference?

Just wondering. :nopity:

[AngryAmish]

57. You should care about it because the future doesn't care about you

[JVS]

58. Fuck the future!

[Dorian Gray]

59. Yes

If you care about future generations and the earth that they will inhereit, then you should give a shit.

If you don't? I can't help you.