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Sun Nov-11-07 10:47 AM
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ON This Week, a persistant fly kept buzzing her sweating face. It seemed to have more sense than Condi, though. Her "Let me just say" and "I want to be clear" while she gave a stream of talking points and nonanswers were par for the course.
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Sun Nov-11-07 10:52 AM
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1. You do realize if a conservative had written this about a black person |
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Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 10:54 AM by midlife_mo_Jo
how much the left would be screaming, and rightly so?
"Obama needs a bath. He's sweaty and a fly was buzzing around his face."
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Sun Nov-11-07 10:53 AM
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3. Do you realize how many lies Condi has told to America? |
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Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 10:55 AM by SpiralHawk
Condi's trail of lies http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/blumenthal/2005/12/08/condi/Condoleezza Rice's contradictory, misleading and outright false statements about the U.S. and torture have taken America's moral standing -- and her own -- to new depths.
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Sun Nov-11-07 10:55 AM
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6. As someone ADAMANTLY opposed to the war - yes. |
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Sun Nov-11-07 10:54 AM
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4. good thing that didn't happen |
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:19 AM
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12. truth is truth and what the the op say is true. she needs a bath |
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wallowing in a pigsty like she finds herself doing guarantees that she does. oh yes what you say is true too;-)
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:21 AM
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Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 11:22 AM by midlife_mo_Jo
For a moment, I was wondering if I landed in an alternate universe. :hide:
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:27 AM
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21. It's revealing that you took this as racist... |
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:46 AM
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31. I didn't take it as racist. |
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But your comment is also quite revealing.
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:38 AM
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26. It's not meant literally isn't it? |
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I say judge the person by the content of the character and not the color of their skin, ergo, Condi is as dirty as her husband, Darth and all of the rest of them.
Though I would protest going after her clothing, as is done with Hillary too often.
Oh well, I guess we all have our issues.
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:45 AM
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30. How did you get anything racial out of the post? |
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There wasn't anything in the post of race, so why bring it up?
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:49 AM
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33. Maybe because this is a LIBERAL website |
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where I thought the OP might not have realized what he said, but would be more sensitive to it once I pointed it out.
Instead, it feels like I landed in freeperland.
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:06 PM
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It's only racist if you use it as a general descriptive. "Those black people sure are sweaty, and fulla flies" <-------- Thats racist and wrong. A description of a single person does not denigrate a whole race, just the single person.
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:08 PM
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40. Man, are you reaching. |
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"Obama needs a bath."
Imagine waking up to that headline somewhere.
Probably in freeperland, in fact.
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:26 PM
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If Obama needs a bath someone should be able to say "Obama needs a bath". It's really reaching to try and say such things are broad brush smears of our brothers, and sisters of another color.
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Sun Nov-11-07 10:53 AM
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2. flopsweat is nectar to flies n/t |
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Sun Nov-11-07 10:58 AM
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7. That's what I was thinking -- has nothing to do with color/race/nationality, has to do with |
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the stress of lying your butt off in front of millions of people who know perfectly well you are lying your butt off.
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:04 AM
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but growing up in the deep south, I know that comments like can be demeaning and racist.
Although the demeaning part is just fine with me. :evilgrin:
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:11 AM
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9. WTF is everyone going on about racism? |
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There was NO mention of race in the OP's or my comment!
If it had been ANY Bush admin person sweating, the same comments would be applied. AND NOT ****ONE**** word would have been said about the posts.
So who exactly here is spinning posts for their own personal agendas?
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:16 AM
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Just surprised at the OP's comment, that's all.
You're right. If a comment had been made about most people in the Bush administration, we would have laughed.
If the comment had been made about Obama, would we have laughed?
Sometimes, a little sensitivity is nice considering the past and present racism. I grew up in the deep south, where racists made comments about blacks needing a bath. Get it?
I am NOT accusing you or anyone else of racism. Just asking for a little sensitivity, and I apologize if I appeared to be accusing the OP of racism.
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:25 AM
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17. if it were RIchard armitage lying through his teeth |
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wallowing in the Texas pig farm, on air, sweating, I would have chosen the same words. Hey, He IS on, but CNNNNN.
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:26 AM
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20. oh, and richard armitage needs a bath |
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:40 AM
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27. Interesting to think of what we all have in common |
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The media wants us to focus on the differences.
Yet we all sweat, get hungry, get fat or thin, turn grey in old age, all age. Race is a very superficial difference that we need not base any social difference on.
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:12 AM
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10. Bingo -- glad you got the point. |
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Some people want to add elements that aren't there. :eyes:
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Sun Nov-11-07 10:55 AM
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5. she is go'n to last much longer, she'll use the 'want to spend more time with my girl' friend excuse |
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:21 AM
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14. If you look real close, you can see the fly dressed in a CODE PINK shirt! |
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and if you listen hard you can hear it screaming "Blood on your hands! Blood on your hands!"
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:27 AM
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22. Thanks! i have an email out to Swamp Rat to do his magic with it. |
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:25 AM
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Could it be the BS she is full of?
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:26 AM
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18. Condi needs a conscience |
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and a l-o-n-g prison term.
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:37 AM
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25. The entire Bush cabal needs imprisonment |
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But I see most people are silent on the fact that if the comment had been made about Obama we'd be singing a different tune around here.
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:43 AM
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28. I don't see racism in every insult |
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I think she's a piece of shit. Therefore, I'm not surprised that she'd attract flies. I don't give a lukewarm squirt what color her skin is.
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:44 AM
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Read my original response. I didn't say the OP was racist.
And I stand by my original comment, but only one person has had the guts to say it's true. How sad.
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:54 AM
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34. I've read your post three times now |
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you unambiguously raise the "black person" issue--I don't think anything in the OP suggest that the fly or the comments about the fly had anything to do with Rice's race.
If a wingnut made some comment about Obama that was clearly racist, I'd find it offensive, but if the comment was similar to this OP (flop sweat and lies) or even if it drew the immediate connection I did (shit and flies), I would not assume it was racist.
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:05 PM
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37. "Obama needs a bath." |
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Clear your head for a moment.
Now, imagine the response here.
Why?
We can find a million insults for her, that's just fine with me. I hate the war. I hate this administration. I hate the lies. I hate the corporatists. I hate the shit that comes out of their mouths every day when I turn on my tv.
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:07 PM
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39. I read the whole thread and |
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even though your original response did not say the OP was racist, it reflected on your own ideas about racist remarks. Smell bad, draw flies = racist remarks???!!? Evidently you have heard racist remarks relating to that and assume all remarks made about smell relate to race.
A mind is like a parachute, it does not work unless it is open.
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:49 AM
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32. You're probably right about that |
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I guess being a neocon puts your beyond the pale of such protection.
It boosts one's self esteem to look for other reasons, though. If a clerk in a store scowls at me, I can think it's me or I can realize I don't know and maybe the clerk is having a bad day. Her teenager is in trouble or her husband is cheating on her or she's having financial woes. I don't have to assume she didn't like the looks of me or found something wrong with me. That's a good thing to remember for those of us who've had low self esteem.
This kind of comment is getting there. For this one, it would be easy to presume this is being said because Condiliar is a neocon in with * and Darth. Look for an alternate intention and it is often there. Obama would be better off, too, because he needs votes from all races if he is the candidate and the mainstream culture is pitiless toward victims, especially of this sort of thing. Look at the bully problem - everyone thinks it is part of life and if you complain about it, it is presumed the complainer has the problem and has to learn to stand up to the bully. If you want to be the leader of this nation, you just can't be a victim of words - you have to stand up to whoever it is somehow. I'm not saying I think that's ideal, but it is the way of this culture. And I way a shy, nerdy kid, so I feel your pain.
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:02 PM
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35. Maybe it puts her beyond the pale of any kind of protection |
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But should those commentsw be here on "this" board?
Flies are attracted to shit coming out of her mouth. Fine. It's even funny. There's a million things that we can say about her without saying something that we would regard as possibly racist if said about one of our own.
It's amazing how many people just totally ignored my original statement that we would object if the same thing were said about Obama. We would object to it as a racist or insensitive comment, not as a lie or the truth or whatever else anyone wants to come up with.
By the way, I"m white, so I don't feel the pain of racism. I'm just attune to such comments because - sadly - I grew up hearing them. Not very much from my immediate family, thankfully.
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:26 AM
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19. It was all the sh*t pouring out of Condi's mouth. It attracts flies. |
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:31 AM
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23. what we have seen here is a microcosm of humanity |
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(and DU) at large.
Is there any question of whether Condi and horrible performances at the NSC and State, not to mention the two times she was put in charge of Iraq reconstruction (I wonder how that worked out) have been ignored or covered up by the media? Hell, there still are several websites that are pushing her for president or the VP.
When will the MSM look at her performance rationally, without blinders to her many blunders?
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Sun Nov-11-07 11:35 AM
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found this definition for the phrase "no flies on..."
"There are no flies on someone..."
something that you say which means that someone is intelligent and able to think quickly. The minute she heard the business was for sale she was on the phone making an offer. There are no flies on her.
Condi must be neither intelligent nor able to think quickly!
:shrug:
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:04 PM
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36. Smart fly. Knows where the shit is. |
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:09 PM
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41. How about washing her mouth out with soap for lying.... nt |
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Sun Nov-11-07 12:10 PM
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42. How about soapy water while waterboarding? |
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Sun Nov-11-07 01:23 PM
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43. I don't believe in torture...even for the likes of those criminals. Jail would suffice. nt |
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Sun Nov-11-07 01:47 PM
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45. That's why I use smilies. |
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Sun Nov-11-07 01:51 PM
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:-)
I'm waving back, but couldn't find the little guy in the lookup table. :)
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Sun Nov-11-07 02:06 PM
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47. The whole country will need a bath.... |
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Once and IF the * admin leaves office. We are all stuck in a quagmire of deep sh*t until then. And probably because of Ch*n*y more than the rest the bunch. I'm sure Condi is not calling the shots any more so than Dana Perino is.
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Sun Nov-11-07 05:53 PM
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49. Not fair.. I have it on good authority that she bathes regularly |
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& her husbboss is a good back scrubber
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