Can we please stop this? (Bush-Clinton regime) picture heavy

[NightWatcher]

Flame me if you must, but this is primary season and the time for in-fighting. We need to be strong as we come through the primaries with the best bet to beat the republicans and take back our country. This post infers nothing, but simply shows a handful of pictures.

[PassingFair]

1. Why can't we all just get along?

Bygones being bygones and all that.

LOOK how HAPPY they are!

[SoCalDem]

4. Imagine me and you I do......so happy togetherrrrr

Clickie





Imagine me and you I do

I think about you day and night

It's only right

To think about the girl you love

And hold her tight


So happy together


If I should call you up invest a dime

And you say you belong to me

And ease my mind

Imagine how the world could be

So very fine


So happy together


I can see me lovin' nobody but you

For all my life

When you're with me baby the skies'll be blue

For all my life

Me and you and you and me

No matter how they toss the dice

It had to be

The only one for me is you

And you for me


So happy together


I can see me lovin' nobody but you

For all my life

[PassingFair]

7. Dynasty!

[Cha]

18. Bygones but

Gross is Gross..it's all a big game to them with The People getting short-sheeted and they're suppose to work for us.

[gaiilonfong]

2. No flame from me but some PRAISE for you!

Thank you for the reminder. I hope everyone looks at these and realizes we need REAL change from all this corruption!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

3. its almost a Kingdom and not a Democracy

kind of makes voting obsolete, doesn't it?

[montanacowboy]

5. These pics are worth a million words

The Clintons have had their noses up the asses of the Bushes for a long time now and there is a reason. The Bush Crime Family have chosen the next President a.k.a. Hillary because they know their fat ass other son could never be elected this time. But next, it will be Jebbie's turn an so on and so forth. Let's keep the corporatists ruling, those who love free trade and endless wars and health care by HMOs. The Bushes don't care who is President as long as their policies are carried out and the Clintons are willing subjects.

Hillary was born and bred a Repuke and will always be one. Nothing will change if she is elected, the war will continue and the corporations will rule.

Look at them in these pictures - could any one of you act this way?

[clarence swinney]

84. Clinton does not hate

Bill Clinton does not have a mean bone in his body said David Maraniss the historian after extensive study of his life.

His entire life has been one of wanting to do good for all people.

He loved being president. He had spent his entire adult life studying governance and was expert at it.

His only weakness was zipper control.

[EVDebs]

110. "Hey Bill, let's sell that blue dress on eBay " nt

[AntiFascist]

114. Too bad Clinton did not have the foresight to realize...

the dire consquences of denying people the truth about Bush Senior. Check out this sub-thread posted elsewhere:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3710601#3710900

[sam sarrha]

6. you could have stopped it before it began... maybe if you tried harder next time..?

[asdjrocky]

8. Just do the math if HRC is elected.

[Fire Walk With Me]

9. If she won't force impeachment and a withdrawal from Iraq, I won't vote for her.

The pictures suggest a comfort level with those who are killing our country for their own short-term profit. That makes me very uncomfortable.

[MonkeyFunk]

10. No

your post infers nothing, but it implies a political connection that simply isn't there.

It's not unusual that you could find pictures of two former presidents together, or a former president and a former first-lady, or a former president and/or first lady with with the current president, or a current US Senator with the current President.

I can find pics of just about every member of congress with Bush - does it mean their all on the same side?

Just more lame bullshit in the absence of substantive argument.

[Yael]

14. I just went through 20 pages of google images

for "edwards bush" and found nada. No hugs, no tender moments -- only a fre shots of the Dark Lord and the Senator during the 2004 debates:

[Harper_is_Bush]

17. So what? That means nothing...

..other than you have lots of time on your hands.

[Yael]

22. Yeah, and that is 5 minutes I will never get back

WOE IS MEEEEEEE!

[Cha]

24. And they're doin' right

in front of us..like, "whatcha gonna do about it..this is what it is and hillary's going to win and cover up some more, suckers."

[NightWatcher]

23. they are not just "together". they are golfing together

aka friends

[Yael]

25. Indeedy

[Bicoastal]

47. Charity For Tsunami relief

Indeedy...

[truedelphi]

92. And what is surprising about this? Hillary is bought and paid for

By the same crowd that wooed the former Bush President.

[John Q. Citizen]

73. You know, I specifically recall Al Gore speaking out against the war and

against the bush administrations actions but for whatever reason I don't recall Bill Clinton speaking out forcefully against the war or against specific actions of the bush administration.

I remember Carter speaking fairly plainly about bush, but not Bill Clinton.

Am i wrong here?

I'm googling but not finding anything of any substance.

So while Bill may not be on the same side, he sure isn't making it clear. It leaves a person wondering what side he's on.

[blm]

82. Then explain how all investigations of Poppy Bush were deep-sixed since 1993.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

And, in fact, in Bill's book he never mentions even one word about BCCI. gee - imagine that.

[Neecy]

11. ugh....stomach turning

When do the crimes become too much for the Clintons? Gee, I though the line was crossed years ago.

Disgusting.

[Yael]

12. Pictures to tell a story, don't they?

Thanks. Kicking and recommending.

END THE DYNASTY NOW.

[Harper_is_Bush]

13. "Bush/Clinton regime". That's a despicable tactic

and to top it off you utilize a picture of a dead soldier for your little political hackery.

Shame.

[Yael]

16. I agree. It isn't a regime, it is a Dynasty in the making

[Harper_is_Bush]

19. The more ignorant and ridiculous the swift-boating of Clinton becomes here...

...the more I'd like to see her get the nomination, just to watch all the swifties heads explode.

[Yael]

21. Why do you hate America?

:P

[clarence swinney]

81. Two for one A Bargain

Two For one—Bill and Hillary—can they repeat this fantastic record?
GDP--rose from 6300 to11,600
NATIONAL INCOME-5,000 to 8,000 Billion--
JOBS CREATED—237,00 per month to replace Jimmy Carter record of 218,000.
AVERAGE WEEKLY EARNINGS--$360 to $478
AVERAGE WEEKLY HOURS WORKED--never hit 35.0--hit that mark 4 times in 80's
UNEMPLOYMENT--from 7.2% down down down to as low as 3.9%
MINIMUM WAGE--$4.25 to $5.15
MINORITIES--did exceedingly well
HOME OWNERSHIP--hit all time high (no big deal most can say this-except Reagan)
DEFICIT--290 Billion to whoopee a SURPLUS
DEBT----+28%---300% increase over prior 12 years by Conservatives.
FEDERAL SPENDING--+28%---+80% under Reagan- who is da true conservative?
DOW JONES AVERAGE—3,500 to 11,720 top in 2000. All it's history to get to 3500 and Clinton zooms it
NASDAQ--700 to 5,000 top in 2000.---All of it's history to get to 700 and Clinton zooms it
VALUES INDEXES-- almost all bad went down--good went up in zoom zoom zoom
FOREIGN AFFAIRS--Peace on Earth good will toward each other---Mark of a true Christian--what has Bush done to Peace on Earth?
POPULARITY---highest poll ratings in history during peacetime in AFRICA, ASIA AND EUROPE . Even 98.5% in Moscow--left office with Highest Gallup rating since it was started in 1920's.
STAND UP FOR JUSTICE--evil conservatives spent $110,000,000 on hearings and investigations and caught one very evil man who took a few plane rides to events.
BOW YOUR HEADS—“Thank you God for sending us a man of Bill Clinton's character, intelligence, knowledge of governance, ability to face up to crises without whimpering and a great leader of the world. Amen”.
THANK YOU GOD FOR THE GOOD TIMES THE CLINTON TEAM YEARS.
clarence swinney-political historian-Lifeaholics of America- burlington nc
[e-mail]
6-28-03

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

100. Now those

....are some SHWEET stats right there, son!!!!!

[Yael]

121. My history must be off. I thought it was Bill and Al?

[blm]

83. You think Clintons bear no responsibility for their actions protecting Poppy?

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[leftist_not_liberal]

30. i.e. telling the truth is despicable

[Harper_is_Bush]

32. I guess you threw your support behind the swiftboaters in 2004 also?

Did you consider that to be "the truth" as well?

[Yael]

33. This isn't Swiftboating

This is a collage.

Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions.

[Bicoastal]

39. Bullshit!

These aren't facts--they're just images without labels, thus depriving us, the onlooker, of any context.

Wanna see a great picture of Kucinich posing for pictures with Bush? Look at my other post below. And this was right before they had tea and scones together, and went on a two-seated bike ride through the park!

Meanwhile, FDR shares a private joke with best pal Josef Stalin:

?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=BEDFE2929D4DA765BB409D4FE9C79797A55A1E4F32AD3138

Yeesh. This IS calumny, no doubt about it.

[leftist_not_liberal]

41. Four Words

Free Trade

Welfare Reform

[Bicoastal]

43. Is there any more to that?

Or are you so unskilled with words that you can only respond to my argument with visual aids?

[leftist_not_liberal]

45. Skills are unecessary when things speak for themselves.

Shine on.

[daninthemoon]

53. They were allies fighting Hitler. Who is bushler fighting? Who are

his allies, and who are they fighting?

[Bicoastal]

55. I had no idea our country was at war with George Bush.

Last time I checked, we're all Americans here. Aren't we all allies?

And before you start, I bet you I hate Bush just as much as FDR hated Stalin.

[daninthemoon]

57. I just asked the question. You correctly answered our country.

bushler has immeasurably harmed our country, it's people, and people in far flung parts of the world. No, I am not his ally.

[JackRiddler]

64. "George Bush" (the agenda and the regime) is at war with the people, yes.

Unconvincing is your vague nationalist terminology (ooh, we're all Americans, whatever the hell that means).

[EVDebs]

111. You haven't heard of Jules Archer's book Plot To Seize The White House ?

Fascism IS something our country should be fighting against. In case you disagree :

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13906.htm

and now

Bush’s Martial Law Act of 2007
http://www.altpr.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=665&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

If I were Patton and you were a soldier I might have smacked you.

[JTFrog]

89. The swiftboating happened during the General

so I don't think you're going to find any supporters on DU. However, that's not so true with Mrs. Clinton. She had her knife readily handy for Mr. Kerry when she joined the criticism of Kerry over a f****** botched joke. DURING A GENERAL ELECTION no less.

Who do you support again?

[Skip Intro]

68. I agree. Despicable.

That pretty much says it.

[Yael]

15. Meet the old boss, same as the new boss

Maybe she'll pick Joe as her running buddy. That would balance the ticket seeing as how he is no friend of the administration.







?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193121F0CA6523343482686F4E86600B855284831B75F48EF45

Oh wait...

[daninthemoon]

20. Those are pictures of people who obviously greatly enjoy each

other's company. These aren't just pictures of adversaries who happened to be same place same time. They like each other. They share things in common. The bushes are murderous thugs. I don't like this cozy little bunch one bit. These pictures mean alot.

[rucognizant]

106. I used to have a great sense of humor..............

I haven't done much laughing for the last 7 years!
It's not too funny when you are trying to finish 3 paintings to complete a calendar people want to buy, before the dollar devalues further and I lose my buyers.
It has been dreadfully interrupted by having to make a 30 mile round trip to fill a 2 gallon can of diesel fuel to keep my heater running during 15-20 degree temps, until the LIHEAP funds are FINALLY released and I can get a fill up.
NO, on $28.00 a day, I can't buy it for myself. 78 BILLION JUST this year has been stolen from the SS amount collected this year. and passed on to the Treasury Dept. Did that fund those helicopters that plumet out of the sky in hot weather? Has it been going to Pakistan, Turkey, Israel, Venezuela to unseat Chavbez ( who generously GAVE me and 16,000 others in NE last winter.) That was YOUR retirement money. There IS a problem with Social Security! It's called blatent theft!
If there is ANY person in this USA who is capable of spinning income out of the thin air, it's me! I have been doing it for 40 years. ( And with penache!) I started my first business at age 12! ANd earned $25.00. That was good money in 1951! IT DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE!!!
Hillary FAILED to forsee the invasion, OR CHOSE NOT to stop it! I DID see it coming! What is wrong with her vision, when a 61 year old in a rural area could see this all coming, and she missed it.
I know....who the hell am I? Why should you listen to me? I've lived with me for 68 years, and I TRUST my instincts.
A picture is worth a thousand words..............believe the ones you see at the top!
:bounce:
:puke: this is how I feel about the huge campaign funds to Hillary while I suffer from the cold.
We elders all over the country are being Katrina'd!

[lumpy]

107. I appreciate, concur and understand your post completely.

We have a very strong poltical aristocrasy in this country. It can be likened to a prestigious country club and money is power. It remains we are the lower class.

[aquart]

26. This is beyond calumny.

And yet, still the tired meme trying desperately to link Hillary (the only one of the four running) with BushCo.

A dear friend and video editor once told me: Pictures ALWAYS lie.

And so, apparently, do DUers who can't speak well of their own candidates so must speak ill of others.

But Hillary is NOT being swiftboated. I guess the pictures do speak for themselves.

[Bicoastal]

27. WAIT JUST ONE GODDAMN MINUTE!!!

I'm no Clinton apologist, but it's not hard to find pictures of decent people stading next to not-so-decent people, especially in the world of politics--if you want, I can show you a swell picture of FDR getting chummy with his best buddy Josef Stalin, right %3Fv%3D1%26c%3DViewImages%26k%3D2%26d%3DBEDFE2929D4DA765BB409D4FE9C79797A55A1E4F32AD3138&imgrefurl=http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx%3Fmid%3D3137280%26epmid%3D1%26partner%3DGoogle&h=420&w=594&sz=36&hl=en&start=3&sig2=PgGqES1lUyopQYsKYXIurQ&um=1&tbnid=Qsalet-eeclA-M:&tbnh=95&tbnw=135&ei=-7o3R7D4HZnQgQLpxujaDA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfdr%2Bhandshake%2Bstalin%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DN">here.

Besides, one reason why there are several pictures of Bush I and Clinton together is because of the work they did to raise money for the victims of the 2004 tsunami and Hurricane Katrina, which is one of the only decent things 41 ever did in his life. But nooooo, let's get a lot pictures with the two of them (+son and wife) together to make some idiotic, grand-standing point about nothing.

Yeesh, some of you people are knee-jerky.

[daninthemoon]

28. Those are golfing pictures, not tsunami related. It's a happy time.

[Bicoastal]

36. So what?

Is there a point here?

[daninthemoon]

37. You said: "there are several pictures of Bush I and Clinton together

is because of the work they did to raise money for the victims of the 2004 tsunami"
These pictures have nothing to do with that. They have plainly stated they are friends. Any friend of a bush is highly suspect. Would you want to be their friend?

[Bicoastal]

40. Has it ever ocurred to you that the golf game was for charity?

And someone goes--hey, Clinton! Bush! Let's get a picture!

What's Clinton going to do? Act childish and ruin the entire event?

On Edit: Maybe this is the one the pictures came from? They raised $1.8 million dollars off that event alone.

[leveymg]

63. Guess that Jimmy Carter doesn't play golf. You also won't find photos of him being chummy with Bush

I also did a Google image search, and there's nothing there except official "ex-president" photo op type shots of Carter with either Bush.

No, the Bushs and Clintons are close. They've kept each other out of jail close.

[clarence swinney]

86. Kept clinton- bush out of jail

Sir, would you care to list more than ONE
person who was CONVICTED of a FELONY which was committed while WORKING FOR President Clinton!

List me some names and crimes. Come on.

[e-mail]

The GAO listed $110,000,000 spent by Newt's Congress on Hearings and Investigations in an effort to destroy the administration.

Newt said this in 1994--"If we take Congress we will investigate every decision made by this administration".

The Conservanuts were heart broken to lose the presidency for it had enriched them.

They attacked everything done by the administration with falsehoods and much deception.

They became EVIL.

Lee Atwater admitted his part in it.

Rove took his place as Goering.

They used silly Whitewater as the platform from which to launch attacks.

Whitewater was a simple purchse of 210 acres of land for $200,000 to sell lots.
Jim McDougal had made much money doing it until Reagan Depressive Recession hit in 1981-1982.

In case you do not recall real estate tanked during that time.

OH! I hate to mention that Reagan had 245 investigated by Justice and OIC(not congress) and 137 were charged with crimes.

Reagan 137 was more than grand total for all presidents preceding him in 20th century. Quite a group.

[leveymg]

95. No question about the Mena Airport and the crimes of President G.H.W. Bush's CIA.

Convictions are beside the point when the crimes occur as a result of CIA covert operations. In addition to the late Gary Webb's outstanding work into Iran-Contra, and activities in Arkansas that touched the Clintons, also, see, Secrecy & Privilege: The Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, by Robert Parry. 390 pages

Tracing investigative leads back through three decades, Secrecy & Privilege explores the mystery of how the two George Bushes rose to the pinnacle of American political power - and what the rise of their dynasty has meant to the nation's democratic principles.

Here are a few more sources about what went on at Mena:

"If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched."

-- George Bush, cited in the June, 1992 Sarah McClendon Newsletter



George Bush with legendary CIA agent Felix Rodriguez a.k.a. "Mr. Gomez" who ran the Mexican portion of the Iran-Contra guns and drug running operation.


"I have put thousands of Americans away for tens of thousands of years for less evidence for conspiracy with less evidence than is available against Ollie North and CIA people. . . . I personally was involved in a deep-cover case that went to the top of the drug world in three countries. The CIA killed it."
Former DEA Agent Michael Levine
CNBC-TV, October 8, 1996



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"The connections piled up quickly. Contra planes flew north to the U.S., loaded with cocaine, then returned laden with cash. All under the protective umbrella of the United States Government. My informants were perfectly placed: one worked with the Contra pilots at their base, while another moved easily among the Salvadoran military officials who protected the resupply operation. They fed me the names of Contra pilots. Again and again, those names showed up in the DEA database as documented drug traffickers.

"When I pursued the case, my superiors quietly and firmly advised me to move on to other investigations."

Former DEA Agent Celerino Castillo
Powder Burns, 1992



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"The Subcommittee found that the Contra drug links included:


Involvement in narcotics trafficking by individuals associated with the Contra movement.

Participation of narcotics traffickers in Contra supply operations through business relationships with Contra organizations.

Provision of assistance to the Contras by narcotics traffickers, including cash, weapons, planes, pilots, air supply services and other materials, on a voluntary basis by the traffickers.

Payments to drug traffickers by the US State Department of funds authorized by the Congress for humanitarian assistance to the Contras, in some cases after the traffickers had been indicted by federal law enforcement agencies on drug charges, in others while traffickers were under active investigation by these same agencies."
Senate Committee Report on Drugs,
Law Enforcement and Foreign Policy
chaired by Senator John F. Kerry



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"I really take great exception to the fact that 1,000 kilos came in, funded by US taxpayer money."

DEA official Anabelle Grimm, during a 1993 interview on a CBS-TV "60 Minutes" segment entitled "The CIA's Cocaine." The 1991 CIA drug-smuggling event Ms. Grimm described was later found to be much larger. A Florida grand jury and the Wall Street Journal reported it to involve as much as 22 tons.

[blm]

113. Poppy Bush and his cronies SHOULD'VE been put in jail after Dec1992 BCCI report

but Bill Clinton deep-sixed that investigation's outstanding matters and then INSULTED every one of us following that case by not mentioning BCCI once in his entire book.

Gee - how does one pull that off considering that Jackson Stephens, Marc Rich and Bin Ladens were all named figures in that report?

[Droopy]

29. It goes beyond pics and into policy

By your logic, Rummy shaking hands with Hussein would become meaningless. But that has been one powerful damn picture and a true representation of the right wing's complicity into skulduggery. Think about the worst enemy of your life. Would you pose for a picture with him/her with a big, glowing smile on your face? I'd sooner eat shit.

[leftist_not_liberal]

31. Precisely. n/t

[Yael]

35. Sign me up for a sandwich

:hi:

[Bicoastal]

38. Like Kucinich! He would never be got shaking hands with Bush, right?

Boom!



Don't get me going on GORE, either.



There's no "logic" here--I'm just saying, when in comes to political photographs, context is everything--especially when someone conveniently forgets to leave off the labels. I would find a less juvenile way of attacking your least favorite candidate, if I were you.

[JackRiddler]

44. Yes context - and nuance - is everything.

And the context of Bush/Clinton is them having a great time together, touring the country, golfing and at consecutive Superbowls.



Tsunami, Katrina: there's always a good cause to serve as an excuse. They have the power to aid good causes without these displays, which have their own significance. The fans and the victims of royalty around the world both understand these pictures perfectly.

The reality of Clinton I was how his administration let the Iran/Contra/Bush criminals off without investigation in 1993, paving the first step for the eventual rise of Bush Jr.

The reality of Sen. Clinton so far has been the atrocious way in which she has enabled the Bush Jr. agenda at the key moments.

The shoe fits, the pictures only confirm what is already obvious to everyone except: a) Democratic center-seekers in denial and b) right-wingers incapable of getting past their rigid black-and-white thinking.

In the Gore picture, both men look very uncomfortable and Gore appears to be consciously keeping his hand off Bush (true, we can't tell how the motion continued).

The Kucinich pic looks like a run-in at some school or basement.

Nobody says Clinton should spit on Bush when he sees him, or that they shouldn't both help relief efforts, even jointly if they can - just don't go out of your way to schedule jaunts and buddy-buddy photo ops.

[Bicoastal]

46. I refuse to base my judgement of Bill and Hillary off of photo ops.

If you're in politics, you can't avoid them without making yourself look more uncomfortable than you already do.

And anyone with an agenda can interpret an unlabeled press photo any way they choose.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not huge fans of either Clinton (well, not Hillary, anyway) but I need a better argument than playground tactics--"Ooooh, they're wearing matching colors! That means they're in loooooooove!" Yeesh.

[JackRiddler]

48. I don't. I base it on their actions. The photos provide illustration. n/t

[Bicoastal]

50. Well, whichever candidate you're backing...

...you've certainly giving ME ample reason not to trust them, if their supporters have to respond like this.

Those others above are right--you ARE as bad as the Swifties. This is political hackery at its worst.

[Yael]

61. You base your voting decisions on the actions of other anonymous people and not the candidates

and their platforms?

That is about the saddest thing I have ever heard.

[Bicoastal]

62. You and me both.

We're having knock-down, drag-out arguments with people we don't know...ALL the time on this goddamn site.

I think I need a break.

[leveymg]

66. Consider this photo. Then, GOOGLE: Bush, Clinton, Mena

Then, read Gary Webb's, The Dark Alliance.

[Name removed]

69. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Yael]

116. It gets frustrating

You are trying to size up a candidate and the most prolific information you are getting is from people who (for whatever reason) have already ruled them out of the favorites list.

I hear ya. :hug:

[JackRiddler]

65. My candidate is Hillary, of course.

[clarence swinney]

87. Hillary

MY reply to Kathleen Parker on Hillary and Religion--

Hillary was a Lay Minister in her Methodist Church.
Hillary has always been a regular attendee at church. Unlike you know who.
Hillary loves her Bible.
Hillary has always prayed to God for Guidance. With her family.
In private as directed by Jesus not on street corners as the hypocrites.
Hillary cares for the less fortunate as Jesus.
Hillary loves Peace On Earth not Wars
Hillary is against killing via executions.
I disagree with her on Gay marriage and permissive abortions..
Her husband had it correct and shut out opponents with his--
Safe-Legal-Rare--Rape-Incest-mom's life
Opponents are "mommies killers" let mom die to save itsy bitsy sperm and egg.
They will eventually want to outlaw Masturbation--Menstrual Period--Wet Dreams.
They destroy eggs and sperm which prevents life.
Hillary loves her family. She suffered to keep her marriage intact.
She stuck by Bill's adultery due to her strong love for him as a total person not just one bad virtue amongst many good ones.
She knew her husband was 99% pure .
Hillary earned $23,000 one year as First Lady of Arkansas when her fellow lawyers made hundreds of thousands.
She spent a year and visited every school district working to improve schools.
Hillary is no Smearer.
Hillary does not Lie(intent to deceive)
Hillary respects others even when they disagree.
Hillary invited to the White House one of most evil smearers. Richard Melon Scaife.
Hillary has a brilliant mind. Not alcohol scorched one.
Hillary will hire experts in each area to manage our government. Bill did same.
One of major reason for Clinton's success was the experts he hired in the government.


The Moogumboo and Frog Manure will be unreal for the next
31 months.

The American Conservative has an article with her pic on front as a witch.

Republicans are desperate to retain power. Many will go to jail with a Democratic Congress or Justice Department.
clarence swinney-political historian-lifeaholics of america-
[e-mail]

[Droopy]

49. Christ, read Chomsky and Zinn

If you're into politics you can't avoid them.

[Bicoastal]

52. Can't avoid what? Photo Ops? Or Bush n' Clinton? Or Chomsky and Zinn?

Seriously, I'm not sure which "them" you're referring to. No offense.

[Droopy]

56. Read Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn

Interventions and Failed States by Noam Chomsky and A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn. To quote the blurb on the back of one of Chomsky's books, "Noam Chomsky is a major scholorly resourse. Not to have read him is to court genuine ignorance."

Check it out and get back to me. You know where I am.

[Bicoastal]

59. 'K. n/t

[daninthemoon]

54. Those pics are nothing like the uberfriendly bush/clinton gang

grouphug happy to be together pics.

[Bicoastal]

58. Well, we can sit around interpreting them any way you want to.

Unless you show me some captions, or some context, or ANY sort of background on these photo ops, you're not going to convert me to your side, and we're at a standstill.

People forget that the Rumsfeld/Saddam handshake was powerful because it had the context of our arming Saddam in the Iran/Iraq war behind it AS WELL as being a pretty heinous image. Ditto Leiberman's kiss.

These, on the other hand, tell me nothing. Not one, except for the bottom.

[go west young man]

96. How about a touch of role reversal.

How about you show the hard leftys on here photos of Kucinich laughing and joking with the Bush's? I seriously doubt you will find any photos of Dennis smiling away with people whose actions have led to the deaths of so many innocent people. Why is the impetus always on the "left" to disprove what the MSM feeds us all?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

76. This post doesn't say anything about policy though.

It's just a bunch of photo-ops.

[arikara]

112. Sure, that's why old Babs

called Bill "son".

[Just-plain-Kathy]

34. They're conning us. They're a bunch of Grifters. I hate the Clintons and the Bushes equally.

K&R

[rucky]

42. They're different.

in the same sort of way.

[Double T]

51. TEAM NAFTA hard at work outsourcing ALL of our jobs while driving........

the nation into bankruptcy. YOU ALL love being screwed SO MUCH that YOU can't wait to elect 'em again. I guess there is such a thing as a masochistic Democrat.

[SammyWinstonJack]

60. Someone tell the "Liberal Media" to stop picking our candidates for us!

:argh:

[Basileus Basileon]

67. OMG HIGH-RANKING POLITICIANS HAVE PHOTO OPS

I AM SHOCKED AND OFFENDED AT OUR MONARCHY!

I AM ALSO SHOCKED AND OFFENDED THAT THE OP CANNOT TELL THE WORDS "IMPLY" AND "INFER" APART.

[Droopy]

70. So, what are your true feelings about an HRC presidency? n/t

[Basileus Basileon]

77. Eh.

Better than any Republican, about the same as any other Democrat in the running.

[JackRiddler]

71. kick

[mod mom]

72. Such demonstrations of respect and admiration make me sick. They have worked

at destroying our democracy through criminal means. I don't get how you can be opposition and "act' like this.

[SidDithers]

74. ZOMG!!! The Kennedy's are in on it too!!! I'm SERIES!!

This is HUGH!!!))!!)))0011!!




What an idiotic post.

Sid

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

75. And the Dalai Lama!

[Nihil]

120. Damn! That'll show all the DUers who were going to vote for him!

Kick for the "interesting" selection of photos in this thread.

[muryan]

78. they do this on freerepublic

you know, show a picture of mccain or warner standing with ted kennedy/kerry/hillary. cant say im surprised to see this kind of bullshit on here, theres not much of a distinction between the two forums anymore

[Blue State Bandit]

79. I like HRC, but these are the images that the world sees.

The simple fact that Bill Clinton, one of my favs, openly embraces Bush 41 as a "close friend" is just too large of a problem for me. And I believe that it is both wrong to just disregard this as political hacker, or to float tenuous evidence of a conspiracy as an excuse for such assertions.

It is quite a shame too. I personally believe that HRC would have done a great service to women, and our country as President. But, that is now of no consequence to me. We need a clean break from the past 20 plus years of "bad press" that covers the Bush/Clinton/Bush/(presumed)Clinton Presidency and the image of an America "run amok" that the world has grown sick and tired of.

It's time for new management, and as the "Evil Capitol Playbook" has shown, when the market is watching this closely, it don't matter what the facts are, it's the image that tells the story. And I'm telling you, this is not an image that helps. In fact, it may do more damage than many are willing to conclude.

Maybe she can take Senate Majority Leader till after the term of a President who would not be encumbered by such image problems.

[clarence swinney]

88. You will never see a free break from Corporate Press

Scandal sells.
CLINTON characteristics I admire

Speaks to people as equals. Not down to them.
Smiles at people
Calls people by names
Friendly and helpful is life history
Cordial to all
Genuinely interested in all people. Life history
Generous with praise. Never for personal benefit
Considerate of feelings of others.
Thoughtful of the opinions of others
Always alert on how to give service to others.

How can anyone dislike these charcteristics

[Blue State Bandit]

97. The Corporate Media has seen it's control chipped away....

and the thinking public, both foreign and domestic have acquired a form of filter that denies the MSM the ability to fully control story lines. They've been slipping lately.

This is not to say that what comes out the other end of the "filters" used by people attempting to see the truth is "the truth". But it would be helpful to keep in mind that "Rosie Glasses" does not, an argument make.

Just being kind and considerate does not make them a good leader. Likewise, good leadership skills does not always make one the right leader for the road ahead.

Even a great boats-man can run aground navigating the Mississippi.

[Baby Snooks]

80. The unholy alliance

Everyone who is tempted to vote for Hillary Clinton should look carefully at these photos. A vote for the Clintons is a vote for the Bushes.

[HughBeaumont]

85. No flames here.

I'm definitely not one of those who have no problem whatsoever with a neo-Banana Republic such as what we have now and are about to continue. That is, unless a large collective of brave individuals does something to put an end to it. A Murdoch-trumpeted, pro-free-trade, pro-Big Insurance Health Care war corporatist vs. another Murdoch-trumpeted, pro-free-trade, pro-Big Insurance Health Care war corporatist is not a choice. THAT is a wasted vote and a wasted Democracy.

[Tarc]

90. "Be strong" by "being mature", perhaps?

As much as I loathe Bush and conservatism in general, they are not the devil incarnate. Adopting the "with us or against us" mentality of the GOP's lunatic fringe is not something I plan on doing anytime soon, so stop getting all uppity over Democrats who get photo opped hanging around Republicans.

[seabeyond]

91. please please, lets stop it. n/t

[La Lioness Priyanka]

93. what crap. this is akin to bad journalism.

its bad argument and bad inferences from bad data.

[ForeignSpectator]

94. Just happened to notice Bush Sr. has a "41" on his jacket... how lame is that?!

edited to remark : maybe we can agree on that... ;)

[Arugula Latte]

98. I feel sick. Seeing all those chummy pictures make me want to hurl.

Time to stop the Bush-Clinton dynasty!

[Deja Q]

99. The odd one out:

Even I can tell, one of them looks embarrassed to be in the picture.

Hey, where's the one where both of them appear at the Pope's funeral?

Condi and especially Laura look sincere in their grief. What's up with the rest of the gang?

[lumpy]

108. The Pope all dressed in red; ..uh..did he click his red slippers?

That is the most bizzare picture I have seen in awhile, like something out of the Dark Ages. The human race has fallen on it's face.

[SoCalDem]

119. Ahh yes. the santa-pope pic

[DutchLiberal]

101. Yeah, who came up with the myth that the Bushes/Republicans hate Clinton so much?

Doesn't look like it.

[whistle]

102. A picture is worth a 1,000 words as long as those pictures are authenic

[onehandle]

103. You think that's bad...Here she is schmoosing with a representative of Israel!

[Dukkha]

104. all I have to say is

ICK! What televangelist's basement did they raid to get those 2 for $99 suits?
:puke:

[nikto]

105. Damn Corporatists!

Corporatists to the right of me, Corporatists to the left of me,
Corporatists in front of me, Corporatists behind me...
Corporatists! Corporatists! Corporatists!!

Isn't there any other kind of politician
any more?
No?
There isn't?

There must be some good use for all these Corporatists.

Dogfood maybe?
Fertilizer?
Organs harvested for implant into the homeless?
Soylent Green?

There must be an answer!

[lumpy]

109. Tweedle Dee and Dweedle Dumb; The Gold Dust Twins

Step and Fetchit; George and Gracie; Hans and Gretel

[liberal hypnotist]

115. It's called diplomacy.

We should talk to our enemy's to find out what they think. Or is this an axis of evil?

[BeatleBoot]

117. The intelligence here knows no bounds...

So disappointing...

[BelgianMadCow]

118. If only you had provided context for each picture...

it could have been great. As it is, the one with HRC laughing all out next to Bush* is the one that can't be explained away at first sight. But I'm not recommending this.

[treestar]

122. I don't mind them being polite when they see each other in public

It could be a good example, they disagree on politics but can still hold a civil conversation.

Big Dog and Pappy hanging out a little is weird until you consider they are both ex-presidents. If you are an ex-president, there aren't many people around who understand totally what that's like. I don't mind them doing good deeds together and I don't think they are plotting to take over the world. That's the Bilderberger's job. :hide: