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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:50 PM
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Webb response transcript.
From CNN http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/23/sotu.webb.transcript/index.html

Good evening.

I'm Senator Jim Webb, from Virginia, where this year we will celebrate the 400th anniversary of the settlement of Jamestown an event that marked the first step in the long journey that has made us the greatest and most prosperous nation on earth.

It would not be possible in this short amount of time to actually rebut the president's message, nor would it be useful. Let me simply say that we in the Democratic Party hope that this administration is serious about improving education and health care for all Americans, and addressing such domestic priorities as restoring the vitality of New Orleans.

Further, this is the seventh time the President has mentioned energy independence in his State of the Union message, but for the first time this exchange is taking place in a Congress led by the Democratic Party. We are looking for affirmative solutions that will strengthen our nation by freeing us from our dependence on foreign oil, and spurring a wave of entrepreneurial growth in the form of alternate energy programs. We look forward to working with the president and his party to bring about these changes.

There are two areas where our respective parties have largely stood in contradiction, and I want to take a few minutes to address them tonight. The first relates to how we see the health of our economy how we measure it, and how we ensure that its benefits are properly shared among all Americans. The second regards our foreign policy, how we might bring the war in Iraq to a proper conclusion that will also allow us to continue to fight the war against international terrorism, and to address other strategic concerns that our country faces around the world.

Economy

When one looks at the health of our economy, it's almost as if we are living in two different countries. Some say that things have never been better. The stock market is at an all-time high, and so are corporate profits. But these benefits are not being fairly shared. When I graduated from college, the average corporate CEO made 20 times what the average worker did; today, it's nearly 400 times. In other words, it takes the average worker more than a year to make the money that his or her boss makes in one day.

Wages and salaries for our workers are at all-time lows as a percentage of national wealth, even though the productivity of American workers is the highest in the world. Medical costs have skyrocketed. College tuition rates are off the charts. Our manufacturing base is being dismantled and sent overseas. Good American jobs are being sent along with them.

In short, the middle class of this country, our historic backbone and our best hope for a strong society in the future, is losing its place at the table. Our workers know this, through painful experience. Our white-collar professionals are beginning to understand it, as their jobs start disappearing also. And they expect, rightly, that in this age of globalization, their government has a duty to insist that their concerns be dealt with fairly in the international marketplace.

In the early days of our republic, President Andrew Jackson established an important principle of American-style democracy that we should measure the health of our society not at its apex, but at its base. Not with the numbers that come out of Wall Street, but with the living conditions that exist on Main Street. We must recapture that spirit today.

And under the leadership of the new Democratic Congress, we are on our way to doing so. The House just passed a minimum wage increase, the first in 10 years, and the Senate will soon follow. We've introduced a broad legislative package designed to regain the trust of the American people. We've established a tone of cooperation and consensus that extends beyond party lines. We're working to get the right things done, for the right people and for the right reasons.

International affairs

With respect to foreign policy, this country has patiently endured a mismanaged war for nearly four years. Many, including myself, warned even before the war began that it was unnecessary, that it would take our energy and attention away from the larger war against terrorism, and that invading and occupying Iraq would leave us strategically vulnerable in the most violent and turbulent corner of the world.

I want to share with all of you a picture that I have carried with me for more than 50 years. This is my father, when he was a young Air Force captain, flying cargo planes during the Berlin Airlift. He sent us the picture from Germany, as we waited for him, back here at home. When I was a small boy, I used to take the picture to bed with me every night, because for more than three years my father was deployed, unable to live with us full-time, serving overseas or in bases where there was no family housing. I still keep it, to remind me of the sacrifices that my mother and others had to make, over and over again, as my father gladly served our country. I was proud to follow in his footsteps, serving as a Marine in Vietnam. My brother did as well, serving as a Marine helicopter pilot. My son has joined the tradition, now serving as an infantry Marine in Iraq.

Like so many other Americans, today and throughout our history, we serve and have served, not for political reasons, but because we love our country. On the political issues, those matters of war and peace, and in some cases of life and death, we trusted the judgment of our national leaders. We hoped that they would be right, that they would measure with accuracy the value of our lives against the enormity of the national interest that might call upon us to go into harm's way.

We owed them our loyalty, as Americans, and we gave it. But they owed us sound judgment, clear thinking, concern for our welfare, a guarantee that the threat to our country was equal to the price we might be called upon to pay in defending it.

Iraq

The President took us into this war recklessly. He disregarded warnings from the national security adviser during the first Gulf War, the chief of staff of the army, two former commanding generals of the Central Command, whose jurisdiction includes Iraq, the director of operations on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many, many others with great integrity and long experience in national security affairs. We are now, as a nation, held hostage to the predictable and predicted disarray that has followed.

The war's costs to our nation have been staggering. Financially. The damage to our reputation around the world. The lost opportunities to defeat the forces of international terrorism. And especially the precious blood of our citizens who have stepped forward to serve.

The majority of the nation no longer supports the way this war is being fought; nor does the majority of our military. We need a new direction. Not one step back from the war against international terrorism. Not a precipitous withdrawal that ignores the possibility of further chaos. But an immediate shift toward strong regionally based diplomacy, a policy that takes our soldiers off the streets of Iraq's cities, and a formula that will in short order allow our combat forces to leave Iraq.

On both of these vital issues, our economy and our national security, it falls upon those of us in elected office to take action.

Regarding the economic imbalance in our country, I am reminded of the situation President Theodore Roosevelt faced in the early days of the 20th century. America was then, as now, drifting apart along class lines. The so-called robber barons were unapologetically raking in a huge percentage of the national wealth. The dispossessed workers at the bottom were threatening revolt.

Roosevelt spoke strongly against these divisions. He told his fellow Republicans that they must set themselves as resolutely against improper corporate influence on the one hand as against demagogy and mob rule on the other. And he did something about it.

As I look at Iraq, I recall the words of former general and soon-to-be President Dwight Eisenhower during the dark days of the Korean War, which had fallen into a bloody stalemate. "When comes the end?" asked the general who had commanded our forces in Europe during World War II. And as soon as he became president, he brought the Korean War to an end.

These presidents took the right kind of action, for the benefit of the American people and for the health of our relations around the world. Tonight we are calling on this president to take similar action, in both areas. If he does, we will join him. If he does not, we will be showing him the way.


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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:52 PM
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1. This is getting exciting. 2nd rec. We need to get behind this guy.....!~
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:54 PM
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2. GRAND SLAM!
There should be no doubt where this congress is going. Thank you Senator Webb.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:55 PM
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3. Perfect pitch perfect
and everyone has a new standard to meet.

EVERYone
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:58 PM
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4. It was such a beautiful speech, well delivered. I loved the
mention of robber barons. That needed to be said.

We need to frame the corporate leaders as robber barons.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:08 PM
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5. And he smiled.
If you saw the debates with Allen, Jim always looked pissed off. Not that he didn't have the right to be.
He just IEDd the shrub and smiled! LOL:D :applause:
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:08 PM
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6. Webb reminded me of Obama delivering the 2004 keynote address to the Dem Convention
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 11:09 PM by Tin Man
Great themes, beautifully constructed, well articulated, with poise and confidence.

How about Obama/Webb 2012?
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Parisle Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:50 PM
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13. Obama/Webb? In 2012?
--- What the hell happened in 2008?
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dos pelos Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 06:21 AM
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21. Deadly good in 2008
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 06:23 AM by dos pelos
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:10 PM
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7. K&R! Webb was great!
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:11 PM
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8. Truly, a star was born . Very powerful - words and delivery. nt.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:42 PM
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12. That's what I was thinking: A star is born.
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:16 PM
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9. It was so wonderful. I listened to him on NPR as I drove home, silently
raising a clenched fist in his honor. The NPR analysts were very impressed. One said he had never heard the opposition party speak so frankly and harshly as when Webb said the president took us into the war "recklessly" and now we are "held hostage." I just read someplace that the Senator wrote his own speech. I suppose bush wrote his own, too??
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Not Sure Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:24 PM
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10. K&R
When is Webb going to run for president? I never cease to be impressed with him, and this is no exception. Well said, Sir!
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:31 PM
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11. Right after
Senator Warner retires and we elect our ex gov. Mark Warner to take his place.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:53 PM
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14. Feingold/Webb...the ‘truth and strength’ ticket
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Allyoop Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:54 PM
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15. Webb for President!!!
Wow! I'm a Clarkie (since 2003), but if Clark chooses not to run I want to draft Webb! What a powerful speaker - and he wrote his own speach instead of reading what the namby-pamby party leaders wanted him to read - so he's a powerful thinker!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:10 AM
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16. He established his
credentials before he set out to dismantle bush and his warmonger, robber baron friends. It was beautiful. No flowery words, no worn out cliches, just powerful words well delivered.


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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:27 AM
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17. Webb is a Real Democrat
I have been extremely impressed with Sen. Webb's clear and principled understanding of the way an economy works, and the unconscionable way the lawless capitalists have ours now operating, ever since hearing several comments and parts of speeches just after being elected, and an editoral for the Wall Street Journal, (I think it was), at the same time. Webb sounds like a real New Dealer, populist, who knows that corporations have to be kept in line, and that the people are suffering. I am hopeful, with people like Webb, Louise Slaughter, Sherrod Brown, Ted Kennedy, Tom Harkin, etc., running things. There may be a way out yet. Webb shows a profound understanding of the evil of selfish, unregulated corporate capitalism, and what it means to have a true moral conscience.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:49 AM
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18. I can't wait to talk to my army buddies about his response.
I think the veterans and active duty soldiers will pay attention.
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SquireJons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:53 AM
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19. Log Jam at the Top of the Democratic Ticket
First, let me say that I missed the speech, so I had to read it. And what I read was pure Jim Webb. That's his message in a nut shell, and it's incredibly seductive. The really amazing thing is that I think he means it. Someone said earlier that Webb wrote his own speech and I wouldn't doubt it for a minute. The message is straight from his heart.

So, what about Webb in the future? He took on a RNC darling and brought him down. Made Allen look silly in the process, seriously damaging his national aspirations. Now he gives the "slam dunk" reply to another sales con by bush. A lot of people were watching tonight, and who knows... perhaps a star was born.

But what about the other stars? There are the fading stars of yesteryear. The stars who feel that this is their time to shine and more than a few new stars, to rival Mr. Webb.

The fading stars have the most name recognition. Biden, Gore, Kerry, and Hillary. Unfortunately, a lot of that recognition is not favorable. So they go into the race with a significant head wind to overcome.

That still leaves a heck of a lot of impressive candidates to consider. In addition to Webb, there's Edwards, who has great potential. Obamma is doing everything right so far and looks sharp. Dean's still out there and so is Kucinich and Clark; and all of these folks opposed the war from the get go. That's something that will be very important come November 4th, 2008.

I'm throwing my lot in with the young blood. They really do seem to be a new type of Democrat; ones that are not going to take a bunch of shit from arrogant, know nothing partisan critics like a bunch of sick pigeons. Webb has already stood up to shrub three times and he's only been in office for a few weeks. This is my kind of candidate.

I want them all, but they won't all fit. So some of them have to take cabinet posts. Edwards would make a great Attorney General. Obamma would be great at Secretary of State. Dean's doing a pretty good job where he is, and Kucinich would be great at the head of HUD. Gore as Secretary of the Interior, Clark as Secretary of the Defense. Big Dog gets his wish and is UN Ambassador.

I'm not sure what to do with Biden. He's smart... and dumb at the same time. Kerry and Hillary should just stay put. The can help from their current positions, but are a drag on a larger stage.

Too bad the egos won't let them sit down and work this out like statesmen. Yeah, right. What planet am I talking about?

I never knew log jams could be so much fun!
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:47 AM
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20. Webb was EXCELLENT... RIVITING....
His response summed up exactly how I feel about the Iraq occupation (dumb and unnecessary from the beginning, a disaster) and my deep concerns about the direction America is heading (the economy portion).

GOOSEBUMPS.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 09:20 AM
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24. No matter whom you prefer....
We've got quite a bunch of fine contenders (or possible contenders) for the Democratic nomination.

The Republicans have.... McCain? Giuliani? Jeb Bush?

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SquireJons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 10:30 AM
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25. "The Republicans have.... McCain? Giuliani? Jeb Bush?"
And don't forget Gilmore!

hahahahaha
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 11:11 AM
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26. Cunningham from his prison cell.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 09:05 AM
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22. KR
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E-Z-B Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 09:14 AM
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23. Beautiful.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 11:27 AM
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27. Thank you Senator Webb for expressing the depth of our outrage
with such power and eloquence. It was moving and inspirational, and an antidote to the previous hour of empty speechifying and penguin applause. I made myself watch just so I could listen to Webb in context, and it was worth it.

And thanks alfredo for posting the written transcript.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 11:38 AM
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28. He has stated the issues in the clearest language that can be -
maybe the rest of our Democrats will take their cue from him. He is right we need to remember 2 of the 3 best Republicans ever elected. Abraham Lincoln being the other.
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