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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:50 PM
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Gates warns of layoffs without war funding
Gates warns of layoffs without war funding

By Julian E. Barnes and Noam N. Levey, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
November 16, 2007


WASHINGTON -- Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said Thursday that he will have to lay off 200,000 civilian employees and contractors, terminate military contracts and partially shut down U.S. military bases unless Congress acts quickly to approve additional funding for the Iraq war.

Echoing similar warnings from past funding battles, Gates said the Army and Marine Corps will develop plans for sharp spending cuts unless Congress moves to provide $196 billion President Bush has requested.

On Tuesday, Bush signed a separate $471-billion Defense appropriations bill. But that spending measure includes little of the money needed to keep the wars going in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The House has offered the president $50 billion as a bridge fund for the wars, but it would require most combat troops to leave Iraq by December 2008.

The White House has vowed to veto the bill if it passes the Senate in a vote planned for today.

Gates said he has little ability to move money within the Defense budget to pay for war expenses, despite new authority contained in the Defense appropriations bill signed by Bush this week.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-warvote16nov16,1,3387566.story?coll=la-news-politics-national
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:51 PM
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1. Poor pentagon will have to eek out a living on 460 BILLION FUCKING DOLLARS
to hell with gates
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:43 PM
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9. This is what I told my husabnd last night. Cut the $$ and make them take it from contractors.
When their contractor friends don't get paid, they'll say "uncle".

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:52 PM
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2. maybe if they could find the missing billions
they could fund them properly?:shrug:
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:53 PM
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3. I hope the Dems stand-up to this horseshit. - n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:53 PM
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4. Start with the Catering Contract...
... and let Gates and the JCS brown bag it.

- Dave
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:56 PM
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5. Now isn't that sad. I had a poster way back in the late 60's that read:
"It will be a great day in America, when the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy fighters and the schools have all the money they need" or something like that. The Pentagon's lack of funds ($471 billion) just breaks my heart.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:57 PM
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6. Blackmail... why am I not surprised.
Using the troops and employees as hostages in a blackmail scam, how um.. Bush-like.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:02 PM
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7. I don't suppose any of these contractors he'll have to lay off include Blackwater?
n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:17 PM
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8. I suspect not. Too bad, that. nt
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:58 PM
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12. DoD doesn't have many Blackwater contracts
Most of Blackwater's Iraq contracts are through State and I think Energy
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:45 PM
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10. Got an idea Gates, send about 50,000 troops home
And start working with the Iraqi Govt. to get them to bring security to their own country. Wasn't that the plan 4 years ago?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:51 PM
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11. Sounds like the excuses they make when trying to pass funding for schools
locally (Ohio has an effed-up system, which the Repukes made sure was unconstitutional, and have yet done anything to fix since they took charge in 1995) ...

"Oh, oh, oh! If you don't pass the funding, we'll have to cut things ... like the football program, etc." Of course, the last thing they'd cut is the football program ... the band would go really quick ...
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:07 PM
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13. So did he tell that to the republicans who refused to pass it
Wasn't the democrats fault...that should be told all over the MSM, but it won't.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:30 PM
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15. He isn't complaining that this bill didn't pass
Gates wasn't for this bill. And if it had passed, Bush would have vetoed it anyway. It wasn't going to become law.

Gates is complaining that the Dems need to hurry up and pass a bill that has no restrictions. I am with Reid: take what we give you or you get nothing.

This is what Reid and Pelosi should have done back in the spring. Better late than never.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:12 PM
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14. BS. Gates, go ask Chalabi if you're so strapped for cash. Sure he's got some of that
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 05:12 PM by pinto
CIA money tucked away somewhere.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:46 PM
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16. Poor DoD needs 200 billion more to keep the gravy train going
how long until the normal people start calling bullshit about all this money flying out the window? Salary in the armed forces is so pitiful that even for 2 million of them it's probably only about 50 billion all told.
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 06:27 PM
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17. SOOOO what`s bad about that
They could cut the military budget by 90 percent and be able to do what they really need to do,maybe the military wouldn`t need more wars to keep busy?
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