MSNBC on Senator Obama

[H2O Man]

The talking heads on MSNBC must have been tasked with saying negative things about Senator Obama. They are using words like "frustrated" and "angry" to describe his response to a person questioning him this weekend, and saying the questioner was "unsatisfied" with his answer.

It seems like odd timing to me, considering the Robert Novak bit.

I do not post this to endorse or attack any democratic candidate. My purpose is merely to focus on the shit the media pretends is "reporting."

[Mabus]

1. and the sad part is,

most people will accept their slant without question. After they're repeated for the rest of the day, it will become ingrained in most people's minds. You're right to bring the distortions to light. Subtly and subliminal messages are dangerous and helped get us Bush.

K&R

[jojo54]

3. Agreed wholeheartedly!!

It's the Dean Scream all over again and like that, no one will refute the evidence. A criminal gets a better defense.

[H2O Man]

6. Now they are

saying he was "rattled." He said that Iraq and Saddam did not attack the US on 9/11.

They are "asking" if he let people "see him sweat"? And that the video shows he "looked a little stressed."

He was answering the nonsense being served up by a woman who admits she is a republican. She was a "plant," not a concerned citizen. Senator Obama gave a correct answer, and was firm.

This is the type of "perception management" that we will be dealing with for the next year.

[hlthe2b]

2. I would love to know why the print media frequently employees

an Ombudsman to try to monitor this kind of thing (however uneven the system may prove to be in practice), yet I'm not aware of any broadcast media doing so. Perhaps they went the way of the Fairness Doctrine....:shrug:

[durrrty libby]

4. I saw that. They also had Chris Matthews on and he basically

said he has to drag Hillary down( not a quote)

because he wants a bit of a race, and if it looks like Hillary

has it in the bag, then he has nothing to do. He is a braying drooling jackass

[Ravy]

13. I heard Matthews on Morning Joe

and I didn't catch any of that kind of drift from him.

What I caught out of the piece was that Iowa voters who don't want to see the race over soon will probably pour into the Obama caucus. He said that if Hillary wins there (Iowa) it will be considered "All over".

[H2O Man]

14. I agree.

I've noticed other threads where people are repeating misinformation about Chris Matthews, and what he "said" about Senator Clinton. It is true that he has expressed some concerns about her campaign. But there is nonsense about him saying he "hates" her. Those who are invested in spreading lies and creating divisions within the party know that by correcting the record, it tends to give life to the lie. But it is important for us to confront the lying.

[Imagevision]

20. I hope Obama accuses the American media for being manipulative

[KharmaTrain]

5. The linguistics Is Interesting

I've also noticed a lot of "baiting" going on via both CNN and MSNBC in recent weeks. My thoughts are they are doing this to stir things up...make yet another debate "relevant" by creating some confrontation or storyline that they control and/or manipulate.

The Novak bit makes no sense being planted by one of Hillary's people since it's so loaded with downside...and is something the corporate media would pounce on. She's being too careful to allow something like that to slip out...especially through Novakula, of all people. He's not out to do any Democrat a favor.

I'm also non-aligned...blissfully so...and find it interesting watching the silly season here on DU and on the corporate media.

Remember, these networks need a "spicy" election...it's their equivelent of a reality show. A boring race means they'd have to find real news to report and that requires real work.

Cheers...

[Ammonium]

7. I think the atmosphere around the whole thing is wrong

Obama was clearly confronted by a "voter" that was fearing the boogey man and brought up Saddam and 9/11(it's not on the video thanks to some sneaky MSNBC editing but she had to, why else would Obama mention it?). I don't think he was yelling at her more than he was simply trying to correct her on what is clearly disinformation.

I don't understand how MSNBC can have a video from beginning to end and only edit the video to show Obama getting "angry". Why not show what the woman asked? I'm sure she asked some ridiculous non-sense about Saddam and his ties to 9/11. Hell, I'd get a little perturbed too if someone spouted out information like that today only because it's so obvious that it was a lie by the administration to get us into war.

[Me.]

8. But You Do Know Don't That There's A Scandal Out There

waiting to snatch him up in its jaws? He must be quivering and shaking with fear, flop sweat and all that. He must be finished as a candidate.

[Catherine Vincent]

9. I agree.

Are they attempting to take Obama down?

Don't give up Obama!

[eleny]

10. Sounds like MSNBC is bucking for a "Worst Person" award

[deminks]

11. I thought the sound was cranked to the hilt on that video-made Sen. Obama sound like he was yelling.

It IS the Dean Scream all over again, and I so agree that the media has their marching orders from Rove again.

BTW, I could hear a distinct "hum" in the background when MSNBC played the tape over and over and over again, like the sound was jacked up. It may have been jacked up to try to hear the woman's question, or on purpose, but the clowns on MSNBC ran with the yelling bit.
I am sick of it, as are most I talk to this morning. Novacula and all are so transparent anymore.

[spanone]

12. well, there was an article in my local paper sat. that said gas prices were falling.

it appears that our media has been compromised....truth is not sellling these days

[pdxmom]

15. The media wants an ugly fight, and if they can't get one, they will manufacture one. n/t

[TacticalPeek]

16. The familiar overtones of The Mighty Wurlitzer.

OSS veteran Frank Wisner ran most of the early peacetime covert operations as head of the Office of Policy Coordination. Although funded by the CIA, OPC wasn't integrated into the CIA's Directorate of Plans until 1952, under OSS veteran Allen Dulles. Both Wisner and Dulles were enthusiastic about covert operations. By mid-1953 the department was operating with 7,200 personnel and 74 percent of the CIA's total budget.

Wisner created the first "information superhighway." But this was the age of vacuum tubes, not computers, so he called it his "Mighty Wurlitzer." The CIA's global network funded the Italian elections in 1948, sent paramilitary teams into Albania, trained Nationalist Chinese on Taiwan, and pumped money into the Congress for Cultural Freedom, the National Student Association, and the Center for International Studies at MIT. Key leaders and labor unions in western Europe received subsidies, and Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty were launched. The Wurlitzer, an organ designed for film productions, could imitate sounds such as rain, thunder, or an auto horn. Wisner and Dulles were at the keyboard, directing history.

The ethos of the fight against fascism carried over into the fight against godless communism; for these warriors, the Cold War was still a war. OSS highbrows had already embraced psychological warfare as a new social science: propaganda, for example, was divided into "black" propaganda (stories that are unattributed, or attributed to nonexistent sources, or false stories attributed to a real source), "gray" propaganda (stories from the government where the source is attributed to others), and "white" propaganda (stories from the government where the source is acknowledged as such).

http://www.namebase.org/news17.html

Nowdays, anyone with the keys to The Mighty Wurlitzer can tickle the ivories.

[Poiuyt]

17. I saw the clip and didn't think he sounded angry

He was responding in a forceful manor, but I don't equate that as angry

[H2O Man]

18. Exactly.

If he hadn't responded in a firm manner, MSNBC would be calling him "weak."

[Imagevision]

19. This is BS! - the video clearly had two edits/splices, enter Batman & Robin next!?!

I hope Obama accuses the American media for being manipulative because this is a classic case of it!

[mzmolly]

21. Your intuitions were correct.

Here is the actual video in case you haven't seen it.

http://cameron.blogs.foxnews.com/2007/11/19/obama-takes-the-tough-questions/

Even Fox was more "fair and balanced" than MSNBC apparently?

After the event, Svoboda told a gaggle of press that the candidate didn’t answer all of her questions and that he didn’t have the experience to be president. No Democrat running, in Svoboda’s opinion, has strong national security credentials. But, she applauded him at the event’s conclusion and said he did “a good job.”