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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:42 PM
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No Secret Service for President McCain
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 04:43 PM by lame54
Sounds ideal for a McCain/Kucinich ticket

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/11/18/mccain_entry.html
McCain on Secret Service: Why Do I Need It?

John McCain often says on the campaign trail that he wants to take on the system in Washington. Usually, he's talking about congressional spending and pork-barrel projects. But he also wants to challenge the system of protection that forces presidents to live life in a bubble.

"It's my intention, if we win this nomination, to reject Secret Service," he said during one of his many conversations with reporters on his Straight Talk Express this weekend. "Why do I need it?"

He adds: "The day that the Secret Service can assure me that if we're driving in the motorcade and there's a guy in a rooftop with a rifle, that they can stop that guy, then I'll say fine. But the day they tell me, 'well, we can't guarantee it,' then fine, I'll take my chances."

McCain rejected Secret Service protection in 2000,
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:43 PM
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1. As president I don't believe he has, or should have, that option.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:47 PM
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3. you are correct- and not to worry, McCain will not NEED Secret Service as President.
He will never BE President.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:50 PM
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8. .
:toast:
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:32 PM
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12. I totally agree with you. Secret Service protection protects the country more than the man.
The point is to reduce the likelihood of instability in changes in our government via assassination (we of course, we rule out Mental Instability - this isn't in the equation).

He has no right to rule out such protection. There are never any guarantees, but let's get real. Deterrent keeps the "easy hitters" at bay. We deserve that even if he thinks it unnecessary.

Of course, I hope it's unnecessary for us to think about "President" McCain. :puke:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:37 PM
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22. He doesn't have the option. Nice stunt though. nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:47 PM
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2. McCain/Kucinich is an insult to Kucinich.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:48 PM
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4. Spoken like someone who wants to be remembered as an assassinated president
There are far too many kooks and weirdos out there. It doesn't even have to be someone ideologically motivated - could be someone merely wanting to secure a mention in history books, or someone who has voices telling them what to do.

Of course, it's pretty easy for McCain to say this when he knows he doesn't have a chance of winning next year.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:59 PM
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17. Exactly right. There's a history of attempts having nothing to do with ideology.
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 06:03 PM by mcscajun
Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme - former Manson family member (target: Gerald Ford. Ford lived.)
Richard Lawrence - insane house painter (target: Andrew Jackson. Jackson lived.)
Charles J. Guiteau - unsuccessful political appointment-seeker (target: James Garfield. Garfield died of his wounds after lingering for eighty days.)
John Schrank - said the "ghost of William McKinley" told him to do it (target: Theodore Roosevelt, post-Presidency. Roosevelt lived.)
Richard Paul Pavlick - the first postal worker to "go postal" (target: President-elect JFK, in December 1960. JFK would survive this first attack, to be cut down three years later.)
Samuel Byck - bipolar disorder (target: Richard Nixon. Nixon lived.)
John Hinckley, Jr. - wanted to impress Jodie Foster (target: Ronald Reagan. Reagan lived.)
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:55 PM
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23. Not to mention we don't hear about all the assassination attempts
Most people get arrested well before they actually put their plans into motion, thanks to the Secret Service. Without them, there could very well have been a lot more assassinations.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:48 PM
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5. He'll have protection...

If I...can just...keep..this guy...in front...of me...(whew)!!!
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:48 PM
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6. Why do I suddenly see Jeb Bush as interested in the VP ticket now?
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:56 PM
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24. Really? Where have you heard this?
I live in Florida, and haven't heard this. Last I heard, he really didn't have any interest in the presidency.

I wouldn't be surprised to see current Gov. Charlie Crist as a VP nominee, however. He portrays himself as a "moderate", and seems to be pretty popular in the state.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 12:08 AM
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27. No, I'm thinking Jeb sees his chance to knock off McCain--literally.
And I haven't seen it in print anywhere, it's just what I'd expect an aspiring fascist gangster to do.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:49 PM
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7. What a moran
That alone disqualifies him.
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slowry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:51 PM
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9. I'm against seatbelts and parachutes for the same reason. n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:53 PM
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10. Shit, even the long-standing mayor of our less-than-one-million city has an entourage of protection
around him twenty-four/seven.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:54 PM
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11. No Secret Service
Only the 100 grunts and the Blackhawks that guarded him in Iraq while walking freely through a market.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:33 PM
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13. he's lost his mind
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:04 PM
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20. Dorothy said it best...
...to the Scarecrow: "What would you do with a brain if you had one?" :crazy:

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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:37 PM
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14. Then he'd better get some insurance a la Poppy
What's Danny Quayle up to nowadays?

Freakin' idiot's grandstanding. He knows he doesn't have a choice in the matter.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:50 PM
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15. No worries. I'm sure Blackwater would be more than happy to put in a bid.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 05:52 PM
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16. Maybe he's right
Who would bother to want to do harm to a guy so far gone
that nature has a 50-50 chance of getting him first? Let
nature take its course, and send the Secret Service back to
chasing counterfeiters........
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:00 PM
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18. Why is McLame even bringing this up?
Is he trying to say that he is too macho to have Security to protect him?
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:02 PM
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19. It sounds more like he is saying....
"Hey, dammit, I haven't been in the headlines all week!!"
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:25 PM
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21. Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
:applause:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:57 PM
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25. why would kucinich pick mccain? kucinich has principles. mccain doesnt.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 04:00 PM
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31. it's a thinker
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:58 PM
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26. pure bunk, the day after the election (if he's elected) he'll say
"The Secret Service and others have said that I must, as president of the free world, have protection. I must bow to their decision."
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:15 AM
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28. He'll never have to worry about it , which certainly simplifies the issue.
It's like me talking about what I'd do if I won the lottery.
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:24 AM
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29. It's fine if McCain wants to gamble with his own life, but the life of the President
is more than just the life of the man who was elected. If elected, his survival is in the national interest.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 01:39 AM
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30. His right
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