WE are WINNING!!! ....(The Nutroots, the Bloggers, the INet Fringe)

[bvar22]

"First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win."
-- Mahatma Gandhi


First they ignore you
In 2000, we were ignored by both political parties.


then they ridicule you,
In 2003, the ridiculing began. Phrases like "nut roots, left wing fringe, loony left" were unleashed by the Entrenched Authoritarian Establishment of both Parties, but primarily by elements of the DLC within the Democratic Party.


then they fight you,
We are currently being openly attacked by the Republican Party and conservative/corporate elements in the Democratic Party.
Move On (a private web based activist group) was censured(!) in the Senate. The Net Roots (Move On, Code Pink, "Bloggers") are openly attacked by the President of the United States, and conservative (Corporate) talking heads.
Most of the presidential candidates have funded and staffed Spin Teams to try and control the message on "The Internets"! Several campaigns are paying operatives to haunt & disrupt websites that are critical.

then you win!
I believe Ghandi.
We are winning.


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[Odin2005]

1. We Shall Overcome!!!

FUCK THE DLC!!!

Edit: just sent the thread off to the Greatest page!

[bvar22]

2. Thanks.

I wanted to post something positive in the spirit of Thanksgiving.

I give thanks for the Internet.
It may be what saves us from an Authoritarian Corporate State.

There is a strong similarity between today's blogs, and the pamphlets of the American Revolution.
http://www.bricklin.com/pamphleteers.htm

[femrap]

3. Yep, the Traditional Media is scared!

And I like that.

[Dr Fate]

4. Remember when DU's own DLCers attacked the "nut-roots" for supporting Ned Lamont- the DEMOCRAT??

Not only did they attack the "nut roots"- but they made themselves traitors to the party and the nomination process in doing so.

Of course, now they all lie and pretend they always agreed with us in boosting Lamont- yeah-uh huh.

Same with the war- DLCers bloggers like "Bullmoose" and DU's own DLCers used to attack the "far left nut roots" for opposing the war as well- again, they all lie & pretend like they never supported Bush on that one.

I'm glad that in your post you did not fail to mention how the DLCers and "centrists" attacked us as much as or even more than the GOP.

Then again, those 2 conservative groups tend to agree on a lot of things...

[BornagainDUer]

5. Excellent synopsis. I believe you are onto something!

:toast:

[Laelth]

6. k&r

love the sig, btw.

:dem:

-Laelth

[eridani]

7. Only if we remember to meld the new methods with traditional wardheeler people skills n/t

[calimary]

8. Excellent reminder! Howard Dean said the only way we lose is if we give up.

Don't EVER forget that.

NGU

[Quantess]

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[cascadiance]

10. I think we are getting power in numbers... And they are growing each day...

The people are starting to "get it", and saying FU to those trying to tell them otherwise.

What is still left is to get the power in the control over our society back to a democratic system that the "numbers" can trust and support again.

Some advocate that we need a "left wing" spin network of media to counteract the current corporatist "right wing" spin network... Ultimately even that isn't the solution. What we need to do ultimately is to build up the trust again that those in a free press can be trusted again to provide us a balanced and objective overall assessment of what is going on. That is sorely missing now. Now you can have editorial comment to accompany that news, but having editorial comment masquerade as news is what has created a lot of the mess we are in now, whether it is progressive or right wing in its nature. Ultimately the American public then feels like they don't trust at least half of what they hear, and what they do latch onto for many who don't try to look below the surface is what appeals to them emotionally, not what is what someone tried to provide them in good faith as what they felt was an objective interpretation of events. If we can build even one single entity that tries to go back to being truthful and not biased in how it presents us news and does so in a way that is well funded and thorough, perhaps people will gravitate to that source and the others will get pushed aside unless they "shape up" and do the same. What is that entity? Too early to tell yet. I think government ultimately needs to empower some entity, whether it be Public Television or some other entity by updating corporate charters or things like enforcing the Fairness Doctrine and "broadcast licenses", how we define the "commons" and how they are provided for private use for newer technologies like cable, satellite, etc.

I'm hoping that I see that day again and we have a country that has some degree of sanity again and isn't so divided and is without corrupt crooks running it.

[natrat]

11. i turn on msnbc and they have some segment on a missing person

yes this might be important but in the scheme of a nation on the edge of financial and environmental disaster it is incredibly trivial

[Sick_of_Rethuggery]

12. It is Gandhi.

NOT Ghandi.

[mogster]

13. That is very true

And think what this will have to say for the next decade of politics.

The next Democrat presidency will not be like the ones back before. The president will have to take into account an unruly blogosphere, which, while being a companion and guide to which way is the best to go if the president is a bottom-up type, also will be a hostile and influential factor if the president turns out to be the top-down type. I don't think a Dem president can maintain any of the draconian policies of the Bush govt. in such an environment.

This is evolution and we're all part of it.