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God23 Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 09:47 PM
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I AM A MYTH!!! KKKarl Rove says "this administration was against the Iraq war...
Edited on Thu Nov-22-07 09:48 PM by God23
See him say it at 6:30 minutes here: http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=115

These people are fucking delusional.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 09:54 PM
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1. Unfuckingbelievable, isn't it?
Edited on Thu Nov-22-07 10:41 PM by Breeze54


He's fucking insane!!

Thanks for the link to the video on that!

to DU! :hi:

:kick: & Recommended!
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God23 Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:05 PM
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5. I got the original link from here at DU and just found this statement
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:00 PM
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2. Tomorrow the truth will come out
Clinton made them go to war. :eyes:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:44 PM
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13. And curiously, that's going to be their explanation for going
into Iran, too.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:00 PM
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3. .
:spray:
Sorry. That is so fucking
ridiculous that I just had to laugh.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:04 PM
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4. Did you see Rove on Charlie Rose last night?
I was almost asleep and then I heard 'him' talking megawads
of bullshit and it made me sit up and watch in astonishment! :crazy:
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:28 PM
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11. No.
All we have is country-
vision (rabbit ears). We get
a whopping 3 channels! :woohoo:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:40 PM
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12. I only do 'rabbit ears' too!
:P

But I get PBS on 2 channels.

Maybe there is a transcrpit of the show on PBS. You HAVE to see what he said!!

A video would be better! Go to PBS and I think you can watch it online. ;)
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 11:01 PM
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19. I will check it out!
Edited on Thu Nov-22-07 11:09 PM by citizen_jane
I only have dial-up on an old
rotary phone line so I will have
to read the transcript if I can
find. My computer is made of
wood by the way. Others worry
about viruses and adware, termites
are my biggest problem. :D
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 04:16 AM
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23. Wood?
Mine is made of old newspaper, pipe cleaners and bubble gum. I'm thinking I might finally upgrade to wood despite the termite problem. Nothing outrageous like the burnished teak wood or black walnut as I can't see the point of such a drastic change until the bugs are worked out... rough pine or even particle board is really all anyone really needs these days.
;)

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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 09:19 AM
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30. Go with particle board.
Rough pine gives you splinters and is
prone to weeping sap when used
in a very hot environment.
;)
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:09 PM
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6. I knew it would happen
I knew they'd start trying to deny support for the war. I wouldn't be surprised if other Republicans start popping up saying they were against the war.
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:17 PM
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7. That must explain why they screwed it up so bad!
Edited on Thu Nov-22-07 10:21 PM by NI4NI
They didn't wanna do it, but did so anyway, instead of listening to the millions of marchers around the world who also agreed with them in not wanting war.
The war would have been a cake walk if they were all for it and tried a lot harder, instead! (sarcasm)

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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:26 PM
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8. No lie too Big, too Egregious
He is a master of nothing with the exception of mastery of deep doo doo peddling.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:27 PM
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9. Only pseudo-anonymity because Bush began illegally wiretapping the American People from the start.
Edited on Thu Nov-22-07 10:29 PM by Uncle Joe
I suppose Valerie Plame, and her company overseas keeping tabs on nuclear weapons had pseudo anonymity, If I remember correctly the authors of the Federalist Papers had pseudo anonymity. This is Rove's way of blaming his own corruption coming to light on to the Internet, with their one way megaphones and vast wealth on their side, I'm sure it's much easier for them to attack the messengers than actually attacking the messages.

"At the end of a byzantine question on Wednesday night’s program, PBS’ Charlie Rose asks Karl Rove, “what makes you so evil?”

“Well I can’t answer that completely,” Rove replies. “I do have a theory though about the Internet. I think the Internet grants people a pseudo-anonymity that allows them to say things that they would never say to somebody in person and never put in a letter but would feel comfortable saying as accepted political discourse on the Internet, and after awhile it becomes ingrained in accepted practice.”

“It seems to go deeper,” Rose says.

“Beyond me,” Rove replies."

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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:28 PM
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10. Get thee to the Greatest Page.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:45 PM
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14. but saddam MADE them do it...
:rofl:

(we DESPERATELY need a smilie with an exploding head)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:47 PM
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16. Like this? ( lol )
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:46 PM
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15. I don't think Rove is evil. I think he's a sociopathic asshole.
Edited on Thu Nov-22-07 10:46 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
I like that description better. :-)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 06:53 AM
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26. "Some say" he's an alien lizard.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 10:36 AM
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34. hahahahaha! Hey, I'm not one that believes in making fun of the way people look....
...but this creature is such a freak of nature that I don't mind saying he looks like a satanic pedophile version of the Pillsbury doughboy. He looks sick, and is sick!
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4nic8em Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 10:55 PM
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17. I think that
Carl is trying to set the record straight by admitting that Bush really didn't want to invade Iraq but Jimmy Carter wanted to invade Niger because they supplied yellow cake uranium to the terrorists in Alaska and the South Pole. What a lame-assed liar.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 11:01 PM
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18. He should be incarcerated for treason
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 11:13 PM
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20. they lie for the fucking fun of it. it's astounding what they get away with.
they lie just to fuck with us. if we spend all our time scratching our heads and refuting their lies, then our energies are directed away from actually stopping them....
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 11:16 PM
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21. I can't believe he has no idea that they are the problem.
He can sit there and talk about how American's are afraid of not being able to afford to live all with a straight face. I watched a little of his interview with Charlie Rose and I wanted to pound his fat head in with a sledge hammer. What a fucking asshole.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 12:37 AM
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22. these fucken repug liars
they've committed mass murder. let's not forget. their lies cannot change that.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 06:42 AM
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24. “Fuck Saddam,” Bush said. “We’re taking him out.”


Bush's Alderaan

“F--- Saddam,” Bush said. “We’re taking him out.” March 2002


By Robert Parry


In the latest sign of a troubled American democracy, a large majority of U.S. citizens now say they wouldn’t mind if no weapons of mass destruction are found in Iraq, though it was George W. Bush’s chief rationale for war. Americans also don’t seem to mind that Bush appears to have deceived them for months when he claimed he hadn’t made up his mind about invading Iraq.

As he marched the nation to war, Bush presented himself as a Christian man of peace who saw war only as a last resort. But in a remarkable though little noted disclosure, Time magazine reported that in March 2002 – a full year before the invasion – Bush outlined his real thinking to three U.S. senators, “Fuck Saddam,” Bush said. “We’re taking him out.”

Time actually didn’t report the quote exactly that way. Apparently not to offend readers who admire Bush’s moral clarity, Time printed the quote as “F--- Saddam. We’re taking him out.”

Bush offered his pithy judgment after sticking his head in the door of a White House meeting between National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and three senators who had been discussing strategies for dealing with Iraq through the United Nations. The senators laughed uncomfortably at Bush’s remark, Time reported. (Time story posted March 23, 2003)

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2835.htm


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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 08:49 AM
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29. and here's the CNN link to that quote
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/24/timep.saddam.tm/

First Stop, Iraq

By Michael Elliott and James Carney
Monday, March 24, 2003 Posted: 5:49 PM EST (2249 GMT)

How did the U.S. end up taking on Saddam? The inside story of how Iraq jumped to the top of Bush's agenda -- and why the outcome there may foreshadow a different world order

"F___ Saddam. we're taking him out." Those were the words of President George W. Bush, who had poked his head into the office of National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice.

It was March 2002, and Rice was meeting with three U.S. Senators, discussing how to deal with Iraq through the United Nations, or perhaps in a coalition with America's Middle East allies. Bush wasn't interested. He waved his hand dismissively, recalls a participant, and neatly summed up his Iraq policy in that short phrase.

The Senators laughed uncomfortably; Rice flashed a knowing smile. The President left the room. A year later, Bush's outburst has been translated into action, as cruise missiles and smart bombs slam into Baghdad.

But the apparent simplicity of his message belies the gravity at hand. Sure, the outcome is certain: America will win the war, and Saddam will be taken out. But what is unfolding in Iraq is far bigger than regime change or even the elimination of dangerous weapons.

The U.S. has launched a war unlike any it has fought in the past. This one is being waged not to defend against an enemy that has attacked the U.S. or its interests but to pre-empt the possibility that one day it might do so. The war has turned much of the world against America. Even in countries that have joined the "coalition of the willing," big majorities view it as the impetuous action of a superpower led by a bully. This divide threatens to emasculate a United Nations that failed to channel a diplomatic settlement or brand the war as legitimate.

...more...
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 06:45 AM
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25. FUCK YOU ROVE!! YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT!! nt
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 06:55 AM
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27. Don't waste time even listening to what wingers say. They're all degenerate traitors.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 07:30 AM
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28. He never said they were against the Iraq War.

Watch it again - he said they were against Congress voting for the IW resolution at the time it was done.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 09:21 AM
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31. Hillary drug the Administration kicking and screaming into attacking Iraq
It is all the Democrat's fault and especially Hillary...She is after all the "all-powerful" one..
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 09:27 AM
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32. They were against it before they were for it?
This is just plain :silly:
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 10:21 AM
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33. If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.
Unless there's an independent media around to set things straight.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 11:29 AM
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35. Here is one polished conman
at work, a confidence man. He wears the mask of credibility, trustworthiness and sophistication, which perhaps fools some people all of the time. Yet, he answers pointed questions with anecdotes, evasions and jokes. He cannot mask his pride in being able to outmaneuver investigations, and sees Charlie Rose as a debate opponent to be defeated. He sells a part of himself without revealing his true agenda, and I sense that there are layers beneath the surface each containing a game plan for multiple scenarios at any given moment. He has a complex personality, not quite as sociopathic as * but rather one with grandiose delusions and an addiction to power.
He is the most difficult personality to investigate, unless someone is patient and tenacious enough to recognize all of his methods of distraction and penetrate through to the truth.
(My unprofessional analysis-- 'Rove on the couch')
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 11:56 AM
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36. He's not a myth...
he's a liar. I remember 2002 well. The Democrats were SCREAMING not to have a vote before the election. The REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED Congress was INSISTING on that vote.

Karl Rove is an evil, vile, piece of horseshit.

And, what makes me even more angry is that we had * by the balls with the Mukasey nomination to FORCE Rove to testify before Congress, and the leadership let him off the hook.

Hey, Conyers and Leahy, WHERE ARE THE FUCKING CONTEMPT CHARGES?????
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ryanus Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 02:14 PM
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37. You got me all worked up, but that's not what he said
He said that the administration was against voting on a resolution at that time because they felt it made the election more political. He didn't say they were against the war as if they didn't want to attack. They didn't want to have the vote then.

Man, I was already to fire this off to people I know, but no dice.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 08:51 PM
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38. Yeah, he was talking about the resolution.
However, it would be in character for Rove to try such a massive revisionist leap. I suppose that's why it had me going for a minute.
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