Wow, according to the History channel Lee Harvey Oswald

[Rex]

and Jack Ruby were twinkies on opposite ends of the wrapper.

Both were natural born losers. Both were mentally unstable. Both strived to be something larger, yet couldn't figure out how. Both were all alone in their assassination attempts. Both were alone and lonely. One was secluded and the other flamboyant. One was deranged and the other disturbed. Oswald loved Castro and Ruby loved JFK.

Peas in a pod.

[Kucinich4America]

1. You mean the Jack Ruby who knew Nixon and Prescott Bush since 1947?

Yes, I'm sure he was a huge fan of JFK. Just like I'm a fan of George Bush. :puke:

[Rex]

2. Hey, this is the History Channel!

And if the TeeVee tells me so, then it must be so. Ernest.

[upi402]

3. Oh! Well then, that seals it. Oswald was a lonely gunman!

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[orleans]

4. and, pray tell, how did lbj fit into all this? n/t

[Rex]

5. Thought it was all a communist plot, first Russia and then Cuba.

Had the military at high alert and wanted proof that Russia or Cuba was involved.

[Rex]

6. Ooohhh...now they are hitting the Oliver Stone

movie 'JFK'. Jim Garrison? Unethical and cruel.

Oh this is good, about Garrison - 'people believe experts when they say something' says the History Channel expert. Imagine that irony.

Another troubled person, wow it sure is amazing how many disturbed people the History Channel can dig up.

[Uben]

7. "Is a government worth saving......."

....if it lies to the people?" This was a line by Kevin Costners character in JFK. It needs to be asked about our current administration. There should be a law that dictates the death sentence for any president who knowingly lies to congress or the American people. That would thin the crowd considerably, I would think. Bush would be a goner!

[Rex]

9. Well the History Channel just said Oliver Stones move is just flat

wrong, so there ya go. Case closed. World policy is ruled by lonely, disturbed loners that are lucky to be at the right place at the right time. Series.

[Islander Expat]

8. They almost pulled it off, if it wasen't for that couple of feet of film....

That shows the Presidents head being shot from the front.

[Rex]

11. They are about to explain that one right now.

Oops, failed on that one. Evidently someones head flying 'back and to the left' doesn't mean a bullet came from the front. It means it came from the rear.

Series. Oh you want them to extrapolate? Sorry, didn't have time to explain. Back to the Oliver Stone bash.

[zeemike]

20. Well there are magic bullets

And there magic proprieties causes the laws of motion to reverse.
Sigh' I am surprised how few know this.
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[RufusTFirefly]

10. Finally! The mystery solved! Time to move on.

Woo hoo!
:woohoo: :woohoo:

The system works! Hallelujah! The system works!

[Rex]

12. I never knew so many, few lonely gun nut losers could change the face of

American history. Good thing I have the History Channel to spoonfeed it to me.

[aquart]

13. Doesn't that channel spend most of its time looking for Jesus?

[Rex]

14. No, now they have branched out into the Universe

and will explain it all to you in about 3 hours, next Tuesday. Series.

[Richard Steele]

15. Jack Ruby- I remember his hat; tilted forward...

His glasses
were folded
in his vest.

And he seemed
like the kind
of man....
who BEATS his horses;
or the dancers,
who work in a bar.

We saw, on the screen, his face- for a moment...

No time
to plead,
or even ask "why"...

Jaaaaaaaaaaack Ruuuu-ooooh-beee...
APPEARS from out of nowhere;
then disappears,
in broad daylight.

'Cause he's a friend
of that cloven-hoofed gangster
"the Devil"...

He's been seen
with the Sheriff
and the Police;

Drinking whiskey
and water
"after hours",
saying,
"Let's do BUSINESS, boys- the drinks are on me."


So draw
the box
along
QUICKLY.

Avert
your eyes
with SHAME.

Let us stand
and speak
of the weather....

And pretend
that nothing ever happened...

on

THAT

day.

[Rex]

16. The 'expert' who explained to the Warren Commission how absurd

it would be that Ruby was involved in a conspiracy to kill Oswald, based his whole case on the fact that someone would have to kill Ruby and then someone else would have to kill that assassin and so on into absurdity.

To bad Ruby died in prison from a very fast acting cancer. Guess he forgot to mention that alternative to his theory. Can't question cancer. Just ask Willam Casey.

[Hippo_Tron]

17. I think one day we'll find out the Warren Commission wasn't entirely accurate...

But that all of the conspiracy theorists were wrong too. The real explanation will be about as exciting and sexy as Oswald acting alone.

[Rex]

31. That was the gist of the History Channels show, we can't cope

with the fact that on one end of the scale we have JFK and on the other we have Oswald. One big one small and too much out of proportion to believe a loser could kill a winner so we need more.

That could be true just as much as anything else we hear, but the difference is the History Channel wants you to believe that NO conspiracy is true, based on the fact that it is a conspiracy!

Talk about the blind leading the blind...

[Hippo_Tron]

32. Well, I think that conspiracy theories are suspect because of that reason

But mostly all of the ones that I have seen are lacking substantial evidence.

For example...

One I've frequently seen on DU is that Poppy Bush was responsible. It goes basically like... Sketchy photo of a guy that looks like Poppy at the Texas book depository + Poppy claiming he didn't know where he was that day + We know Poppy is a criminal from Iran Contra = Poppy killed JFK.

There's no substantial evidence there but people want to believe it and so they do.

I'm not saying that such conspiracy theories validate the Warren Commission or that we are wrong to suggest that perhaps they should have done a more thorough investigation. But almost every theory I've seen so far is lacking substantial evidence.

Again, if we ever find that the Warren Commission was wrong, and that there was some sort of conspiracy, it will likely be a boring conspiracy because people have been digging into all of the sexy ones for decades now and nobody has come up with any good evidence for them.

[regnaD kciN]

18. Not to mention...

Peas in a pod.

...one involved with the C.I.A., the other with organized crime. :eyes:

[Perry Logan]

19. They are also both conveniently dead.

[RC]

21. How convenient.

I wonder how they made that rat poison or whatever it was look like cancer?

[Perry Logan]

22. That was one fast-acting cancer that got to poor Oswald. Dead men tell no tales.

[RC]

23. Oswald ingested some lead served by Ruby, who had the cancer.

[Frank Cannon]

24. It was Ruby who got cancer, not Oswald

And the cancer was real. I know the laboratory pathologist who diagnosed it, and he's no more involved in a government cover-up than you are.

[Perry Logan]

26. Point taken. Ruby was obviously not killed. And on his deathbed he said he acted alone.

It was the opposite of a deathbed confession--a "deathbed denial."

[tulsakatz]

25. I was just talking to someone who was admiring the Bugliosi book.......

...this guy used to seem like a reasonable man, for yrs he's said that Oswald was a patsy but now that Bugliosi believes Oswald acted alone, all of a sudden this guy thinks he's right!

The main reason why I don't believe Oswald acted alone is because if you believe that, you also have to believe in the magic bullet theory. And if that's true, that a bullet can enter one man and then enter another man, what is the purpose of having a bodyguard? A bodyguard is supposed to take the bullet for you. So if a bullet can enter one body and then enter another, why do people still use bodyguards?

[Bright Eyes]

27. Oswald also learned how to teleport

Between to Book Depository and the Grassy Knoll.

[spanone]

28. america will never know the truth

[rainbow4321]

29. Weird little factoid

Buried in an article about the detectives who were with Oswald after his arrest. They were taking phone calls and food delivery from Jack Ruby during their time with Oswald.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/112207dnmetsonnyboyd.1dd2c77.html


Over the next two days, the detectives walked him through the corridors of City Hall to his prison cell, to Capt. Fritz's office, to line-ups and to a meeting with the media. They sat in on interrogations, though others asked the questions.

During one interrogation on Friday – the evening of the assassination – Mr. Sims left Oswald's presence to take a phone call.

The caller was an old acquaintance: a local nightclub owner by the name of Jack Ruby.

"He said he was down at Sol's Turf Bar and he said, 'I got 30 sandwiches made up and some drinks.' He wanted to bring them down in case we didn't have time to get something to eat," Mr. Sims recalled.

[kskiska]

30. He later brought the sandwiches to a radio station

after driving around for a while trying to find someone with their phone number, which he'd forgotten, because the downstairs door to the radio station was locked and he didn't have access.

It's all in Bugliosi's book, which is incredibly detailed.