No American President can ever be impeached again.

[Skidmore]

This is the legacy of this Congress. Articles of impeachment were meant for such acts against the Constitution as those committed by * and his administration. Failing to impeach this man and his VP for their crimes has established a precedent with the bar set so low that any act committed by the executive is acceptable and does not warrant accountability.

[annabanana]

1. Our only restorative has been taken away from us.

The only stick "We the People" carried has been spintered.

[bullimiami]

2. its stunning how much damage these republicans have done to this country.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

13. The democrats are not innocent here...

They are IN CHARGE, and they are still doing nothing!

[bullimiami]

20. nope. you are right. they have to share the blame for their lack of effort against it.

and not just lack of effort but downright complicity at times.

[cali]

3. sadly true.

unless the repukes are in power and there's a dem president they want to smear or take down. Then it will be whipped out quickly enough.

And actually what the repukes did with Clinton, was set the bar so high that bushco is getting away with high crimes and misdemeanors. They couldn't have arranged it more to their advantage if they'd planned it.

[Perry Logan]

4. I've heard this before. Are there any qualified experts who agree with this assessment?

[Skidmore]

5. When war crimes, blatant abuses of power, treason, and outright

breaking statutory law have been commmitted by the executive and are not treated as "high crimes and misdemeanors" by the Congress, then it is permissible for future administrations to do the same things with impunity. A precedent established by omission of duty.

[Rene]

6. Very sadly, you very right. I blame Pelosi/Reid as well as the Rebugs......and us voters for not

putting problem people OUT of their congressional seats. You can tell by recent votes that most of Congress is NOT acting in our best interests or that of our Nation. We MUST work on honest Elections in all of our communities.

[baby_mouse]

7. no REPUBLICAN president can be impeached again.

The republicans will have no problem impeaching the Democrats.

[Marr]

8. Never underestimate a fascist's capacity for doublethink.

If they have the majority in Congress, they'll move to impeach the next Democratic president immediately. They'll do it for something like 'using white stamps for personal letters', too. They don't care about consistency.

This Congress has undermined the Constitution and set a horrible precedent by shirking their duty on impeachment, no doubt about it. But the mechanism will still be in play for the next Republican majority.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

9. On the contrary, it will probably happen to future presidents with sufficiently hostile houses.

Whether or not they're actually guilty of high crimes or misdemeanours.

If there were sufficient Democrats for a conviction, Bush would probably already have been impeached; as there aren't it's not even on the table.

I do not approve of the way America fails to distinguish clearly between its legal and political systems.

[mmonk]

10. I disagree with your premise.

Impeachment is not "off the table" due to the prospects of not getting a conviction. I believe it's off for other reasons. You don't let the constitution's most flagrant abusers go without so much as an inquiry.

[B Calm]

11. As long as they don't try to hide the fact they got a BJ from a fat chick..

[tom_paine]

12. Not true, it is only a Bushie Emperor than cannot be impeached

Now, one might say that, because an Democratic Emperor will never be allowed to assume the throne, no Emperor (since they will all be Imperial Family members or Imperial Family Approved) will never be impeached.

THAT I can believe. But if the pResident/Emperor is an enemy of the Imperial Family? You bet they can be impeached.

[Toots]

14. "Each time Congress and the White House have changed the law"

This is a quote from another thread on the Administration being found in violation of existing Law by Supreme court. It was addressing the kidnapped victims ( Bush* calls them "enemy combatants")being held in Guantanamo Bay but the trend is in all areas,,

[Frustratedlady]

15. So the only recourse is for the people to take the lead, either by voice

or by action? If the Dems won't do their job and the Repugs certainly won't defy their king, we, the people, are all that's left. Am I seeing this correctly?

We've tried to get the message across by writing letters, calling our reps and senators, discussing amongst each other the best course to take. We've tried it by voting out and voting in those who would take our concerns to the Congress. We've marched. We've probably even made fools of ourselves, but it didn't matter, because no one was listening anyway.

All I can figure out is that words and letters don't matter. They will continue business as usual until they see the faces of the people...up close and personal. It looks to me that the only thing that is going to get our message across is for it to be delivered on the feet of the people, enmasse, to OUR White House.

What does it take to get it through our heads that the Constitution belongs to the people...the White House and all its ownings belong to the people...that these individuals working for US are being paid by the people. WE are the powerful and they are the peons, but we won't believe it.

Down, Agent Mike. I'm not planning an uprising, just an awakening.

[cdsilv]

17. Stop shopping. Stall the economy - make corporations feel the BITE.....

...That will get the attention of those in power. Just buy what food/essentials you need and forgo the christmas crap.

Then demand impeachment as the remedy to no-shop-itis.

[left is right]

19. I'm sorry, I really didn't see your post

when I posted the same idea. But great minds do tend to think alike.

[left is right]

18. There is one thing that might work but our time frame might prevent it

Immediately, yes before Christmas, cut out all discretionary spending. No purchases of durable goods; no on a whim purchases; cut down your food bill as much as possible, cut your gasoline usage by at least 10%; cut home heating costs. Make your national and state representatives understand that your reduced spending is in protest of their no impeachment policy; inform them that it will continue as long as necessary. Make corporations scream about the downturn in their profits. Bush and Cheney will be impeached if corporations demand it. If the time frame will not allow it, then keep it up through the next reign of repukes.
Just a compassionate note, many of us own this board are already living minimalist lives. You may not be able to cut a bare-bones budget any further, but you are on the front-lines of what may be the only effective protest. And perhaps bottling up the rabid right may prove for brighter days in the future for all of us.

[Nay]

16. Oh, don't worry, DEMOCRATIC presidents will be fair game --

they'll be impeachable right after they jaywalk across C Street.