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Sun Dec-02-07 08:34 AM
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Poll question: Do you like Hillary Clinton? |
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Edited on Sun Dec-02-07 08:45 AM by Onlooker
Note that this poll is not asking if you support Hillary, it's asking if you like her.
Some believe that there's sexism behind the opposition to Hillary. (I think that's certainly part of it.) Maybe this poll will give some insight into that.
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:35 AM
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1. How can I "like" someone I don't know? |
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I respect her as a Senator, however, I DO NOT want her as my candidate.
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Sun Dec-02-07 12:00 PM
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22. That's how I feel except |
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her seat in the Senate seems to be something she wanted merely for a run for the preidency.
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Sun Dec-02-07 05:27 PM
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Sun Dec-02-07 05:58 PM
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39. Really? Because as a Raleigh resident I thought it was painfully obvious. n/t |
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Sun Dec-02-07 06:00 PM
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40. He used his senate seat to run for president in 2004 |
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Have you checked out how many votes he missed? http://www.adaction.org/ADATodayVR2004.pdf
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Sun Dec-02-07 06:03 PM
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41. Yes I have. Doing his best to win the presidency for Kerry which is precisely what he was.... |
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Sun Dec-02-07 06:19 PM
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He was supposed to represent his constituents in the state of North Carolina while he was in the senate.
He did not serve them well. I know. I was one of them.
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:09 PM
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48. How would it have helped you to have his vote considering the pub contolled congress? |
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On any bill that his vote would have swayed the outcome he would have made it. I doubt there were any at the time.
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:18 PM
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50. IT WAS HIS JOB, PAID BY THE TAXPAYERS |
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TO REPRESENT THEM IN THE SENATE. THAT JOB MEANS TO VOTE!
He was not representing his constituents while he was campaigning for president.
BUT! He did co-sponsor and vote for the genocide of the Iraqi people.
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:24 PM
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51. IT WAS HIS JOB TO HELP KERRY WIN THE PRESIDENCY. |
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Caps make you appear right?
He is from a southern state. His constituency are majority rightwingers and he did what they wanted him to do right, later realizing it was a mistake and apologizing for it.
Personally I don't trust any of the politicians running completely but Edwards is the best for the job.
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Sun Dec-02-07 09:04 PM
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57. No, the job he was elected to was the senate |
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The job he was paid to do was to represent his constituents. His record says he did not do his job.
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Mon Dec-03-07 11:26 AM
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76. As a member of the senate he was selected to run as vice-president |
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a job which that under the circumstances was more important than making meaningless votes in Congress controlled by Pubs.
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:01 PM
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64. OH MY ARE WE HEARING FROME THE JESSE HELMS CORNER? |
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:36 AM
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2. The options lack reasons for liking or disliking |
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limiting the choices to male vs female.
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:41 AM
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5. 'Like' is purely subjective |
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I don't think it makes any difference why you like or dislike her. Perhaps you dislike her because you think she's shrill or dishonest. Perhaps you like her because you think she's hot or she's strong. Or, if you don't have any feelings towards her, than choose the 'neither like nor dislike' option. I think for most people, she arouses some emotional feeling that can be called like or dislike.
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:46 AM
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11. I don't support or oppose people for emotional reasons. |
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I guess I won't vote in the poll. Honesty and dishonesty are hard things to get a handle on. Strength is relative to one's opinion which may or may not be real. Like is a term hard to define as to answering such a poll of a politician running and is irrelevant to me as I look to substance. I don't know how to answer it.
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:38 AM
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3. ? "I'm a woman male" ?? |
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Hmmm.
I guess a "woman" who dislikes Hillary isn't an option?
And why does race matter for men and not women in this poll?
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:42 AM
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That should be obviously be 'I'm a woman who dislikes Hillary.' Sorry.
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:45 AM
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9. Isn't there still time to correct it? nt |
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:46 AM
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I didn't realize you could correct polls. (Someone could do some mischief with that feature!)
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Sun Dec-02-07 04:14 PM
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33. I did one once and changed the choices around, but it was a silly poll |
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maybe in the lounge late one night. To answer your question, I am female. I don't know Ms.Clinton personally so neither like nor dislike her as a person. I do not want her as my presidential candidate or president though as I disagree with many of her policies and find her too much of a politician.
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:39 AM
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4. I would just point out that both men and women can be sexist. |
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Interesting poll anyway, though. :hi:
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:41 AM
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18. assuming anyone who dislikes a person does so based only on gender |
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might be a good way not to make friends nor influence people.
Both men and women can be sexist. Both can also be narrow minded. Doesn't prove anything about present company though, does it?
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Sun Dec-02-07 04:03 PM
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32. That's a good point, too. |
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A poll like this may not measure sexism at all. True.
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:27 PM
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52. A lot of us would LOVE a woman prez ... but not that woman. nt |
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:43 AM
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She's a repuke! She's DLC!!! She's a war monger!!! She's a corporate whore!!! She's just riding Bill's coattails!! She faked/is taking advantage of the hostage event in NH!!!
Did I say I hate her!!!?
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:45 AM
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8. If "Like" Is How You Rate A Candidate, Stay Home |
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This election is not a popularity contest...there's a ton of messes that need to be cleaned up and whomever takes over on 1-20-09 is gonna have to hit the ground running to start turning things around. Those who are so shallow as to only base how they vote or the candidate they support based on "like" or "hate" do all of us a diservice and insult the political system.
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:40 AM
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69. i "dislike" hillary for the scumbags around her-mcauliffe,that bald freak,the blackwater conection-e |
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:07 AM
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70. Then Don't Vote For Her |
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Pretty shallow excuses...but that's your perogative. I'm no fan of McAuliffe and have become totally disenchanted with Carville, but I haven't heard that either is running her campaign or that they would have any role in a future administration.
Having covered elections in the past, almost every campaign has "scumbags"...and again, I'm not voting for a best friend, I'm voting for the candidate that can be the most effective in cleaning up the messes 7 1/2 years of booosh and cheney have left upon this country. Elections aren't a popularity contest.
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Sun Dec-02-07 09:38 AM
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12. I am a white male who likes her... |
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I just don't want to vote for her
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Sun Dec-02-07 09:44 AM
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13. Hating Hillary is not equal to sexism |
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What about Obama? If one doesnt pick him for pres, does that mean that they are racist? Do all women have to vote for Hillary simply because she has a uterus?
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:08 AM
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14. I'm a woman and I don't like her |
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because of things she did while First Lady of Arkansas.
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:31 AM
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I never heard much about what she did during that time.
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:46 AM
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but she was rude to some close friends of mine. She didn't have to be, she just was. I just don't abide by rudeness. Might not be a big deal to some, but it is to me, especially when politeness took the same amount of effort.
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:44 PM
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27. no. that doesn't sound silly |
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I can understand having a personal dislike because of that.
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:20 AM
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15. HRC will not get us the swing voters we need to win. |
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:38 AM
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17. Sexism? I'd LOVE to have a woman in the White House. Hell, I'd love |
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to have a black atheist lesbian in the White House if she were the best choice for it. I don't dislike Hillary, as I don't know her. I don't care for her as our nominee, but if she is, I'll support her.
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:48 AM
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20. I don't know her, so how can I say I like or don't like her? |
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She is however, a woman who worked her way up through college, became a lawyer, worked hard, raised a child, and did many of the things we all do in those regards. I may not support her as a nominee this time because of some of her stances, but I don't equate that to liking or disliking her. If that is still the criteria for voting then we will see it hasn't changed much then from the "he's a candidate I want to have a beer with" mentality that got us in this mess to begin with.
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Sun Dec-02-07 11:52 AM
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21. Why have you included skin color in the poll questions related to men yet |
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only gender in the poll questions related to women? If the questions are to assess whether sexism is an issue, as you stated, why bring color into it at all?
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:19 PM
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23. I've met her. I like her. |
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:32 PM
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24. 'What's Like Got to Do, got to do With It? What's "like" but a sweet, old-fashioned notion..." |
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What's like got to do, got to do with it??? Who needs a vote when a vote can be (stolen/bought/bartered, etc...)?'
Do I "like" her or do I "LIKE" her? Do I "like-like" her?
IF you are gauging "sexism" with this one, I think you've gotta form much better questions. :hi:
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:38 PM
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25. Can't say whether or not I "like" her.. but I sure don't trust her... n/t |
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:40 PM
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26. Other: I'm a white woman who has never met Hillary Clinton. |
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:44 PM
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28. I "like" my ex-wife (and vice versa) but I don't want to be married to her. |
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I have no idea whether I would like Hillary if I were to meet her. But, I sure as hell don't like her politics.
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:46 PM
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29. you mean "would you like to have a beer with Hillary?" |
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this is stupid. I don't know or want to know any politician. I want to believe an elected official can handle the job. I believe that Hillary can. I believe that all of the Democratic Party candidates can. A few of the opposition party's candidates probably can handle the job too. I don't have to "like" any candidate to vote for them. If Hillary wins the nomination at least I don't feel I have to "hold my nose and vote."
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:51 PM
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30. Contrary to the Hillbots' rantings, most anti-Hillary folks here are women. |
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Not "chauvinist white male oppressor misogynist Hillary-haters" as they would have you believe.
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:54 PM
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31. I don't like any corporate shills |
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Sun Dec-02-07 04:17 PM
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35. So, how are we going to win this election again? |
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Although I like her and will vote for her, it's obvious that even the people on this site wouldn't vote for her. I'm beginning to wonder if we even care about winning.
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:05 PM
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65. We want if we don't stick together and vote for the nominee! |
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If we are so stubborn as to take our marbles and go home because our favorite candidate doesn't win the nomination, then we can expect 8 more years of republican rule, and you know how that is!
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:20 AM
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71. Easy. Don't have a risky candidate as the nominee. |
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Such as Hillary, for instance. I don't get why everyone associates this with rocket science.
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Sun Dec-02-07 04:23 PM
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36. Although I realize there are only so many options in a poll... |
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Edited on Sun Dec-02-07 04:29 PM by Blue-Jay
Why is it important to know how white males vs. non-white males feel? Surely, it couldn't be a "white men are mostly horrible" sentiment, right?
To answer your question: I'm a white man who neither likes nor dislikes Sen Clinton. She's not my first choice (nor my second, for that matter), but I'll happily vote for her should she get the nomination.
EDIT: Additionally, I'm curious about what kind of conclusion you're looking to make with the data from this poll.
Thanks in advance for replying! (provided you reply) :hi:
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Sun Dec-02-07 06:10 PM
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42. How do you define "like" |
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Sun Dec-02-07 06:21 PM
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44. The biggest obstacle to women attaining high office has always been |
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women.
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Sun Dec-02-07 06:23 PM
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45. The Media wants Rudy vs. Hillary |
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Sun Dec-02-07 06:23 PM
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46. She's not my candidate but I do LIKE her |
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as a person, as a human being.
She seems genuine in what she espouses (to the extent that you can and run a campaign in our present political climate.)
I only met her the one time in 1992 and she was engaging and personable at a fundraiser in Charlotte. I can only go by that. Or perhaps we'll cross paths again and I'll get an update.
But I certainly don't hate her and I don't hate the idea of her running.
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Sun Dec-02-07 06:31 PM
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47. I like her. I liked her a lot more in 1992, but I still like her. nt |
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:14 PM
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49. I despise her policies, and the fact that she is a corporatist warmongering sellout |
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Edited on Sun Dec-02-07 08:15 PM by Kucinich4America
Neither my gender or hers have anything to do with it.
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61. Exactly what I said below- Amen. |
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:29 PM
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53. She might be perfectly "likable" in person, but |
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I don't like her as the democratic candidate. That's all.
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Sun Dec-02-07 08:33 PM
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54. i despise her and the creepy facists in her campaign |
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it has nothing to do with her being a woman it has everything to do with her being a flip flopper. I would love to be able to vote for a woman for president and wish I could support her. I was so proud to help put Barbara Boxer into the Senate because she was the right woman.
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Sun Dec-02-07 09:04 PM
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58. Please Explain Why I'm a Sexist if I'm a White Male Who Doesn't Like Hillary Clinton? |
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Is the only reason for a white male to dislike Hillary Clinton because she's a woman? Are the rules different for gay white males rather than straight white males?
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Sun Dec-02-07 09:09 PM
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59. I don't dislike her personally |
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In fact, I would bet that she has a good sense of humor and would be reasonably fun to hang around with.
That being said, I don't particularly like her stance on Iraq and don't support her in the primaries. If she makes it to the general of course I'll vote for her, albeit reluctantly.
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Sun Dec-02-07 09:15 PM
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60. A woman who dislikes Hillary although the "woman" part has nothing to do with it. |
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My being a woman, Hillary being a woman- nothing to do with my "dislike."
I despise ALL corporatists. Male and female.
BHN
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Sun Dec-02-07 09:23 PM
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62. I don't need to feel chummy with the Chief Exec of my country. I want a competent Progressive... |
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...who will restore the Constitution and Bill of Rights pronto. I want a president whose intellect and accomplishments I can respect.
Do I want to have a beer with this woman? Probably not. I don't think she ever relaxes or lets her guard down, and my inner critic would go into overdrive about how little I've accomplished with my life which means I wouldn't relax either.
Hillary Clinton will get my vote in the general election, should she make it that far.
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Sun Dec-02-07 09:56 PM
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63. I like Hillary, but I'm not voting for her |
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I think that she's got too much baggage, the Wingnuts are licking their chops to run against her, and I think that there are a lot of other good candidates out there. It's not a gender thing. I'm happy that a woman is the front-runner. It's just that I wish it was a woman that wasn't as polarizing. We need someone to unite the country. Hillary isn't that person.
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:15 PM
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66. I'm a BatBoy, and I love my mom! |
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Sun Dec-02-07 10:39 PM
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As of now with 106 male votes and 146 women votes the breakdown is as follows:
23% of men like her 18% of men neither like nor dislike her 59% of men dislike her
37% of women like her 8% of women neither like nor dislike her 55% of women dislike her
There must be a reason related to gender for the difference in the "like her" numbers.
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Mon Dec-03-07 07:13 AM
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68. I like Hillary. But she isn't my first or second choice for president. |
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Edited on Mon Dec-03-07 07:14 AM by Kahuna
I'm a black female.
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:23 AM
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72. Has nothing to do with like or hate. |
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What I hate is her less-than-Democratic positions on Bewsh's wars, job offshoring, free trade in general, Big-insurance-controlled health care and Kyl/Lieberman. She's not an ideal candidate for those who want forward-progress CHANGE.
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Mon Dec-03-07 08:27 AM
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73. Like her (white male). |
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I saw and met her in South Carolina.
(I'm assuming this poll is similar to "would you have a beer with X?")
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:05 AM
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74. I believe Hillary to be dissimulative in character, |
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a typical attribute found in most politicians these days, and for some reason, even though it seems customary in America to propel these kind of people too the top, I for one am not fooled and want nothing to do with them, and that includes Hillary…
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Mon Dec-03-07 10:06 AM
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75. I like her a lot. I just don't want her as president. |
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I like my uncle Jerry too. He has no business being president either.
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